Post by A Moment In Subtext on Feb 2, 2010 4:00:41 GMT -5
Rachel T (8:26 PM): howdy
Slashy (8:27 PM): hallo! person who exists! *flyingtackleglomp*
Rachel T (8:27 PM): *is glomped*
Rachel T (8:27 PM): my computer is EPIC FAIL and no longer runs actual YIM.
Slashy (8:27 PM): NICE
Rachel T (8:27 PM): so if I randomly sign off, it's because I closed the tab or firefox shuts down.
Slashy (8:28 PM): does your firefox tend to shut down often?
Rachel T (8:28 PM): occasionally.
Rachel T (8:28 PM): I've found that cracked has decided it hates me and I can't go *there* anymore.
Slashy (8:28 PM): I sorry
Rachel T (8:29 PM): *shrug* I may be getting a laptop soon, so I'm looking forward to that.
Slashy (8:29 PM): nice
Slashy (8:29 PM): yesterday, my computer randomly decided to remove all my video-watching plug-ins
Rachel T (8:29 PM): oh, ouch.
Rachel T (8:30 PM): Many sympathies.
Slashy (8:30 PM): you wouldn't think it would take FOUR FUCKING HOURS to re-download them all
Slashy (8:30 PM): I mean, really
Slashy (8:30 PM): oh, I posted, btw
Rachel T (8:30 PM): I did, too. lapdog
Rachel T (8:32 PM): huh. Why does 'an unique' sound so much weirder than 'a unique'? Obviously the first one is grammatically correct, but it just doesn't sound right.
Slashy (8:33 PM): because you pronounce the 'u' in 'unique' with a 'y' sound
Rachel T (8:33 PM): I suppose.
Slashy (8:34 PM): posted
Slashy (8:35 PM): so, I was rewatching the DWS4 finale the other day. . .
Rachel T (8:35 PM): Oh dear. What did you notice?
Rachel T (8:35 PM): and posed lapdog
Slashy (8:36 PM): . . .that typo there? amuses me
Rachel T (8:36 PM): lol
Rachel T (8:36 PM): DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE. Wow. I'm slow today.
Slashy (8:37 PM): if the Doctor had died in The Runaway Bride and never met Martha, then why were the stars going out in Turn Left? Because Caan only ended up in the Timelock because Daleks In Manhatten. . .
Rachel T (8:37 PM): ...
Rachel T (8:37 PM): Because Rusty is an idiot.
Rachel T (8:37 PM): also, posted word association.
Slashy (8:39 PM): I was actually looking for a reason that worked within the Whoniverse. I do understand that Rusty is a fucking moron. I want to make the canon WORK, dammit.
Slashy (8:39 PM): even if it is utter fail
Rachel T (8:40 PM): This is like trying to make the timeline of the whoniverse work properly. You just can't, and your head explodes trying.
Slashy (8:40 PM): posted
Slashy (8:40 PM): no, you can, it just takes more time and effort than I want to put in
Slashy (8:40 PM): and string
Rachel T (8:41 PM): When a timeline requires string, then the creators and continuity people get an EPIC FAIL.
Slashy (8:42 PM): yeah, well, working out timelines with time travel in the mix almost always requires string
Slashy (8:42 PM): it's just that that's the GOOD kind of string
Slashy (8:42 PM): as opposed to the Torchwood kind of string
Rachel T (8:42 PM): On Torchwood, where almost everything happens in linear time, THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): We should be able to line up where Tosh came in, where Owen came in, where Jack left
Slashy (8:43 PM): we should
Rachel T (8:43 PM): Well, when.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): But we cannot. Because every resource says something different.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): and it just pisses me off.
Slashy (8:44 PM): so instead of using every resource, we use our brains, and what we were given on screen
Slashy (8:44 PM): which is still FUCKING DIFFICULT
Slashy (8:44 PM): but more possible than trying to reconcile novels and resource books
Rachel T (8:45 PM): I know.
Rachel T (8:45 PM): I still can't get over the EoD/Utopia thing.
Slashy (8:47 PM): yes, that's what we call failing to collaborate
Slashy (8:47 PM): writers should actually TALK to other writers
Rachel T (8:47 PM): That's just what we call fail.
Rachel T (8:47 PM): They really ought to.
Rachel T (8:47 PM): Also, posted
Slashy (8:49 PM): I have theories about what they meant to accomplish there, but. . .none of them are any good.
Slashy (8:49 PM): and my theories are usually pretty good
Slashy (8:49 PM): posted
Rachel T (8:49 PM): They are usually pretty good.
Slashy (8:51 PM): also, I called the Weeping Lady the Weeping Lady instead of the Woman BEFORE evil!Rassilon compared her to "the Weeping Angels of old". Do I feel smug?
Rachel T (8:51 PM): I'm guessing yes.
Slashy (8:51 PM): you're guessing correctly
Rachel T (8:51 PM): posted
Rachel T (8:53 PM): "It's Neal."
Elizabeth blushed or it wasn't really a blush. It was pink cheeked arousal. "You're going to collar Neal? Can I watch?"
"Do I know you?"
"Elizabeth, your wife, you married me because I wasn't boring."
Slashy (8:53 PM): I have theories about the Weeping Angels. And that frightens me, because the Weeping Angels are one of a very few villains who ACTUALLY frighten me. I hate that I lie awake at night thinking about them.
Rachel T (8:54 PM): Trufax: the angels are fucking TERRIFYING.
Rachel T (8:54 PM): And I probably can't spell.
Slashy (8:56 PM): off the top of my head, the Angels and the Vashta Nerada are the only things that STILL frighten on second/third/twentieth viewing. And yet, I want to get inside the Angels brains.
Slashy (8:56 PM): ugh
Rachel T (8:56 PM): you are a strange one.
Rachel T (8:57 PM): Also, 'ps happy christmas' is brilliant.
Slashy (8:57 PM): thank you, I woke up with it in my head this morning
Rachel T (8:58 PM): I especially like the line about Jack having the phone number of every person on the planet.
Rachel T (8:58 PM): brb
Slashy (8:59 PM): well, he does.
Rachel T (8:59 PM): oh, absolutely
Slashy (9:00 PM): I had so much FUN writing that. Do you know the last time writing was actually FUN for me?
Rachel T (9:00 PM): I can't even fathom the idea of having this 'fun' writing. /s
Slashy (9:02 PM): I wrote "PS", then immediately wrote "Blatent Foreshadowing", and about half of an EoT fix it
Slashy (9:02 PM): because as much as I LOVED tEoT, the fact that the Master just vanished bugs the hell out of me
Rachel T (9:03 PM): Yeah.
Rachel T (9:03 PM): And no one comments on it, that's annoying ,too.
Slashy (9:05 PM): yup. but I figure, if the Master hadn't disappeared, the Doctor could have thrown all his regeneration energy at him and that would have fixed his dissipating into electricity thing and the Doctor wouldn't have to regenerate
Slashy (9:05 PM): and then the Doctor could go back to his original plan of keeping the Master
Slashy (9:05 PM): and it would be pretty
Rachel T (9:06 PM): Which would've been great, but it wouldn't have been the dead we'd been building toward all season.
Slashy (9:08 PM): no. not that the Doctor has never COMPLETELY FUCKING CHEATED before or anything. . .
Rachel T (9:08 PM): No, it's not like that at all
Slashy (9:08 PM): *is NOT bitter*
Rachel T (9:08 PM): I can tell
Rachel T (9:09 PM): I have TOO MUCH FUCKING MUSIC
Slashy (9:09 PM): i sorry
Rachel T (9:09 PM): And I never thought I'd say that
Slashy (9:09 PM): in my personal canon, the Master did not fall into the Timelock or vanish, he was thrown clear of the building by the force of his own electricity zapper and immediately ran off to continue eating hobos
Rachel T (9:10 PM): I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything
Rachel T (9:10 PM): did I mention posted?
Slashy (9:10 PM): and the Doctor is just oblivious enough not to notice
Slashy (9:10 PM): . . .you did. I got distracted
Rachel T (9:10 PM): He's too busy emoly saying goodbye to his friends because HE'S NEVER EVER GOING TO SEE THEM AGAIN.
Rachel T (9:11 PM): EVER.
Slashy (9:13 PM): I liked most of the goodbyes. Because, really, it's not that HE'S never going to see THEM, it's that they're never going to see HIM again. And they won't.
Slashy (9:13 PM): And there's no way in hell Eleven is going to be better than Ten
Slashy (9:13 PM): No. Way. In. Hell.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): I was just getting *used* to ten.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): I was liking Ten.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): It wasn't that I don't like David.
Rachel T (9:14 PM): I do, I really do. He's absolutely brilliant (I tried to spell that 'absoslutly, btw). I am just bad at change. Especially on TV
Rachel T (9:15 PM): I'm way worse at change on TV than I am at change IRL. So the Chris to David transition took me a Very Long Time to get used to.
Rachel T (9:15 PM): But I was liking Ten. And now they've changed him.
Rachel T (9:15 PM): Also, my brother liked Ten. And was sad to see him go.
Rachel T (9:16 PM): My freaking brother.
Slashy (9:16 PM): you are clearly not one of the many who enjoyed the Classic Who in preparation for NuWho
Rachel T (9:17 PM): no.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): I am not.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): Tate gave me the first season and I was like. ooh. This is good.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): And then I never got to see season two, so I just jumped into season 3 and TW.
Rachel T (9:18 PM): poste
Rachel T (9:18 PM): *d
Slashy (9:19 PM): . . .you've not even seen Series Two?
Rachel T (9:19 PM): I've seen bits.
Rachel T (9:20 PM): Everytime I try to watch on the internet, the video either stops loading or the audio and video are such crap that I can't even watch it.
Rachel T (9:20 PM): I've seen, uh, the last four episodes and Fear Her, I think.
Slashy (9:23 PM): Fear Her is GOOD
Rachel T (9:23 PM): It is. I really did like it.
Slashy (9:23 PM): Love & Monsters is NOT
Slashy (9:23 PM): the rest of Series Two is decent
Rachel T (9:23 PM): I gleaned what I needed to know from Wikipedia and Tate.
Slashy (9:24 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:25 PM): posted
Slashy (9:25 PM): actually, in retrospect, Series Two doesn't make me want to pull my hair out as much as later series do
Rachel T (9:26 PM): really?
Rachel T (9:27 PM): With a series-arc of 'Torchwood', you'd think it'd be completely incompetent.
Slashy (9:28 PM): you'd think. but I don't have as many nitpicks with it as I do with the others
Slashy (9:28 PM): tho that may be because I haven't watched it since it aired, and I don't care about Rose anywhere near as much as I care about Martha and Donna
Rachel T (9:29 PM): Poor Martha and Donna, who got ignored and screwed over.
Slashy (9:29 PM): still, if I travelled with the Doctor, I'd rather go out like Donna than like Adric
Slashy (9:29 PM): there are worse fates
Rachel T (9:30 PM): Adric crashed his spaceship into the dinosaurs, right?
Slashy (9:30 PM): yupsies
Slashy (9:30 PM): also, I'm pretty sure Adric got raped by the Master at least twice. Back before the Master was pretty
Rachel T (9:31 PM): ...
Rachel T (9:31 PM): Speaking of Rape.
Slashy (9:31 PM): . . .not that that should make a difference. Rape is still wrong.
Rachel T (9:31 PM): which is not something that should be really spoken about as a 'speaking of' sort of thing.
Slashy (9:31 PM): *tries to cover dodginess of phrasing*
Rachel T (9:31 PM): Have you seen the preview for next week's White Collar?
Rachel T (9:31 PM): With the drugged Neal?
Slashy (9:31 PM): No, I have not.
Slashy (9:32 PM): I might have to go look it up, tho
Rachel T (9:32 PM): It's on hulu
Slashy (9:32 PM): *will meander over there in a bit*
Slashy (9:33 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:35 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:38 PM): I hate my computer, I hate my computer, I HATE MY COMPUTER.
Rachel T (9:38 PM): It does not download things correctly
Rachel T (9:38 PM): ugh
Slashy (9:39 PM): what did it not download correctly?
Rachel T (9:39 PM): So, I'm trying to download iTunes.
Rachel T (9:39 PM): Because I have a gift card and, oh, I can get psych online. So I'm like, OK. Lassie Did a Bad, Bad Thing is one of my favorite episodes, so I'll get that.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So it's like, oh you have to sign up.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So I did.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): But it is apparently NOT THE LATEST VERSION OF ITUNES.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): Even though I downloaded it today
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So, Ok, I go check the site. There's a 64 bit version.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): I have no idea what that means, but whatever, I'll try that.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): FIREFOX CANCELS IT ON ITS OWN.
Slashy (9:41 PM): . . .
Slashy (9:41 PM): that's helpful
Rachel T (9:41 PM): So fuck this noise.
Rachel T (9:41 PM): And, of course, I'm not allowed to get anything without the latest version of iTunes.
Rachel T (9:43 PM): When he finally
finds himself standing in front of Neal’s door, his plan still pretty much
consists of “Step 1: say something charming, apologetic and articulate, and be
forgiven. Step 2: kiss and/or be kissed by Neal. Step 3: details pending.”
He makes himself knock anyway.
Slashy (9:43 PM): posted
Slashy (9:45 PM): y'know what's fun?
Rachel T (9:46 PM): hmmm?
Slashy (9:46 PM): when I'm trying to work on my To-Do List and I'm suddenly swamped with dive-bombing plot-bunnies.
Rachel T (9:46 PM): oh, posted btw
Rachel T (9:46 PM): Sounds like fun.
Slashy (9:48 PM): not just ordinary plotbunnies, the dive-bombing kind
Slashy (9:48 PM): I HATE the dive-bombing kind
Rachel T (9:48 PM): oh, they're the worst
Slashy (9:50 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:00 PM): posted
Slashy (10:00 PM): posted
Slashy (10:01 PM): Tatey-chan is going to kill me if I keep sending her things to beta at this rate
Rachel T (10:01 PM): lol
Slashy (10:01 PM): no, she really is
Slashy (10:02 PM): she's "having enough trouble keeping up with her coursework without me throwing more deadlines at her"
Slashy (10:02 PM): or something along those lines
Rachel T (10:02 PM): I offer my services, if you'd like.
Rachel T (10:02 PM): To stop the, y'know, murder an' all.
Slashy (10:03 PM): mm, that's very generous of you
Slashy (10:03 PM): I might just take you up on that
Slashy (10:03 PM): because murder is bad
Rachel T (10:03 PM): Yeah, it kinda is.
Slashy (10:03 PM): and Tatey-chan should be allowed to concentrate on her Creepy As Fuck biology teacher
Rachel T (10:03 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:03 PM): I'm sure she'd appreciate that
Slashy (10:03 PM): well, I'm sure she'd appreciate the passing
Rachel T (10:04 PM): mm
Slashy (10:04 PM): the having to concentrate on her bio teacher, i'm not so sure
Rachel T (10:04 PM): heh
Slashy (10:05 PM): he's CREEPY
Slashy (10:05 PM): and I don't creeped out by much
Rachel T (10:05 PM): is he?
Slashy (10:05 PM): have you not seen the post she made about him? in the "I can see you" thread?
Slashy (10:05 PM): Creepy
Slashy (10:06 PM): I mean, who SAYS that?
Rachel T (10:06 PM): yes.
Rachel T (10:06 PM): he is
Rachel T (10:06 PM): freaks?
Slashy (10:06 PM): freaks who teach at a christian college?
Slashy (10:06 PM): . . .forget I asked that
Rachel T (10:07 PM): I could really go on with that, y'know.
Rachel T (10:07 PM): But I won't.
Slashy (10:08 PM): i typed it, then i read it. and realized that i was being quite thick
Rachel T (10:08 PM): yeah. Not that all crazies are Christians or vice versa.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): You just hear a lot about the Christian crazies.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): And the Scientologist ones.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): but they're funnier to laugh at.
Slashy (10:09 PM): that's because religion brings out the crazy in people. and then they are loud and make the rest of us look bad
Slashy (10:09 PM): Southern Baptists, i'm looking at you
Rachel T (10:09 PM): yes.
Rachel T (10:10 PM): "So, in the future, no one's gay and no one's straight? Everybody just...does everybody?" "That's the size of it." "Ha! Hear me in the Bible Belt? YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!"
Rachel T (10:10 PM): There are days I love Garth Ennis.
Rachel T (10:10 PM): Not usually, but sometimes I do.
Slashy (10:12 PM): see, we're talking about religion, and church, and the like, and that's NOT WHERE MY BRAIN IS DAMMIT
Slashy (10:12 PM): has Tatey-chan told you what her brothers friend said in the church during youth group last night?
Rachel T (10:13 PM): No.
Rachel T (10:13 PM): What did he say?
Rachel T (10:13 PM): posted
Slashy (10:14 PM): okay, so, apparently, Jayen had Aylen dye his hair. which is a gay enough place to start this story
Rachel T (10:15 PM): ...I don't know who these people are.
Rachel T (10:15 PM): just to tell you.
Rachel T (10:15 PM): Which one's her brother? Aylen?
Slashy (10:15 PM): . . .didn't she give you a list?
Slashy (10:15 PM): wait a sec, I have a paper here where I wrote down their real names that time you accidentally gave them to me and Tate was annoyed
Slashy (10:16 PM): where is it? *goes to look*
Rachel T (10:16 PM): She probably did give me a list.
Slashy (10:17 PM): which you then lost
Slashy (10:17 PM): it's okay, I have it here
Rachel T (10:18 PM): who's surprised?
Slashy (10:18 PM): because you are apparently terrible at keeping secrets
Rachel T (10:18 PM): I'm not that bad. I'm just lazy and don't care.
Slashy (10:18 PM): okay, so: during the day, Jordan asks Nik to dye his hair for him.
Rachel T (10:18 PM): ...
Rachel T (10:18 PM): ogod
Slashy (10:19 PM): at youth group, Jordan yells at Nik for leaving black handprints on the walls
Slashy (10:19 PM): Nik says he didn't touch the walls and only got dye on one of his fingers
Slashy (10:19 PM): and friend whose name Tatey did not give me says: "So one finger turned into a whole hand?"
Slashy (10:20 PM): which would of course be where Tatey-chan started listening
Rachel T (10:20 PM): of course
Slashy (10:20 PM): posted
Slashy (10:20 PM): the things that go on in my brain at that sentence. . . poor Tatey-chan, being in church and all
Rachel T (10:21 PM): mmm
Slashy (10:21 PM): she said she escaped to the kitchen for some blue jello and to giggle madly
Rachel T (10:21 PM): xdd
Slashy (10:21 PM): and apparently, Jordan was hiding a bottle of mountain dew in the microwave and she stole some
Rachel T (10:21 PM): in the microwave?
Slashy (10:21 PM): yeah
Slashy (10:22 PM): that's what I said
Slashy (10:22 PM): that is NOT a good hiding place for a bottle of soda
Rachel T (10:22 PM): Agreed
Slashy (10:23 PM): Min is going to kill us for writing crack in the word association game
Slashy (10:23 PM): just so you know
Rachel T (10:23 PM): s'ok
Rachel T (10:24 PM): posted
Slashy (10:24 PM): . . .wasn't Tatey-chan online an hour ago?
Rachel T (10:24 PM): probably
Rachel T (10:24 PM): yes
Rachel T (10:24 PM): she was
Slashy (10:24 PM): she didn't stick around to play with us *sadface*
Rachel T (10:25 PM): WTF? Why did that happen?
Rachel T (10:25 PM): *pout* I dragged a tab to be a new window.
Rachel T (10:25 PM): A video tab. Which I closed.
Rachel T (10:25 PM): *is a retread*
Slashy (10:26 PM): is the typo for emphasis? *eyebrow*
Rachel T (10:26 PM): yes
Slashy (10:26 PM): are you just saying that to cover your mistake?
Rachel T (10:26 PM): no.
Rachel T (10:26 PM): It might be a new york thing.
Rachel T (10:27 PM): I dunno.
Rachel T (10:27 PM): We say it around here.
Slashy (10:27 PM): okay
Slashy (10:27 PM): whatever you say
Slashy (10:27 PM): I should really start that new game. . .
Rachel T (10:27 PM): mm
Rachel T (10:28 PM): posted
Slashy (10:30 PM): posted
Slashy (10:30 PM): this crack thing we have going should be a game of it's own
Rachel T (10:31 PM): One of those one-sentence deals? Well, a couple sentences.
Slashy (10:31 PM): it's more concept map/outline than fic. and we don't appear to be going for dialogue, which those one sentence things do. . .
Rachel T (10:32 PM): mm
Slashy (10:32 PM): Collaboration On Crack
Rachel T (10:32 PM): xD
Slashy (10:32 PM): yet another game thread i will probably never actually get around to creating
Rachel T (10:35 PM): posted
Slashy (10:38 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:38 PM): thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/13799-cf
Rachel T (10:41 PM): posted
Slashy (10:46 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:48 PM): posted
Slashy (10:48 PM): I CAN blame Rusty for "Blatent Foreshadowing", right? That's not just me being spiteful?
Rachel T (10:48 PM): Yes, no
Slashy (10:50 PM): okay
Slashy (10:50 PM): good
Slashy (10:50 PM): because i have a dim memory of cursing him in my authors note, and i want to feel justified
Rachel T (10:53 PM): yeah, Rusty!hate is always justified
Slashy (10:53 PM): posted
Slashy (10:53 PM): *giggle* not sure that's true
Slashy (10:53 PM): he's done some things for which i do not hate him
Rachel T (10:54 PM): True.
Slashy (10:54 PM): for example, bring back Doctor Who in the first place. Also, leaving.
Rachel T (10:54 PM): Yes.
Slashy (11:04 PM): ha. i inserted a bullshit analogy into Tatey-chan's History paper to up her word count. *smug*
Rachel T (11:04 PM): what was it?
Slashy (11:06 PM): okay, this was her topic:
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the
13 colonies were founded by different groups for different reasons,
how were these colonies able to unite against the threat of the
French?
Slashy (11:06 PM): urk, it wasn't supposed to copy the margins!
Rachel T (11:07 PM): What was the analogy?
Slashy (11:07 PM): and this is fifty-three words of BULL:
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like to compare the colonies to snow: each and every colony is a
different snowflake, completely separate in it's identity but still
obviously made of the same basic stuff, and if you apply enough
pressure they stick together and form a hard-packed snowball, ready
to launch at an enemy. Say, the French.
Slashy (11:07 PM): urk! margins!
Rachel T (11:08 PM): that's good. That's quite good.
Rachel T (11:08 PM): posted
Slashy (11:08 PM): it is also complete and utter bull
Slashy (11:08 PM): honest
Rachel T (11:08 PM): it's fantastic bull, tho
Slashy (11:08 PM): it's going to save Tatey-chan some time adding spare words to her paper
Slashy (11:08 PM): which is all it needs to do
Rachel T (11:09 PM): mm
Slashy (11:09 PM): (her paper is due in an hour. guess when she started.)
Rachel T (11:09 PM): It's still funny, though
Rachel T (11:09 PM): When she got offline?
Slashy (11:09 PM): well, i'm sure that's what she'll CLAIM
Rachel T (11:09 PM): probably an hour ago.
Slashy (11:14 PM): posted
Slashy (11:15 PM): you know what? reading essays online does not help when writing essays for college
Slashy (11:15 PM): at all
Rachel T (11:18 PM): no, I imagine not
Slashy (11:19 PM): i read, and then i want to write as i've read
Slashy (11:19 PM): and then i have to edit about 60 "fuck"s out of my paper before i turn it in
Rachel T (11:19 PM): lol. Yeah.
Rachel T (11:19 PM): ugh, cat!
Slashy (11:19 PM): i should do more in the revising stage than remove curse words from my draft
Slashy (11:19 PM): cat?
Rachel T (11:21 PM): "Oh, hey, I wanna come out of your room." I go to let cat out of room. "Lol, just kidding. GTFO." I come sit down again. "Oh, hey. I wanna come out of your room." I go to let him. out. "Just kidding. GTFO."
Rachel T (11:21 PM): So I just threw him into the basement.
Rachel T (11:21 PM): Also, ordering laptop tomorrow. FTW.
Slashy (11:23 PM): ah, animal cruelty and technology. . .it's almost like TBFQOTY
Rachel T (11:24 PM): Well, threw is a bit harsh.
Rachel T (11:24 PM): I threw him out of my room. He went running to the basement
Slashy (11:25 PM): ah
Slashy (11:26 PM): have you watched this years BFQOTY yet?
Rachel T (11:26 PM): The first halfish bit.
Rachel T (11:26 PM): Then my computer decided it hated me.
Slashy (11:28 PM): dude. did you get to the bit where Wossy and RB try to walk off?
Rachel T (11:28 PM): Yes.
Rachel T (11:28 PM): That was hilarious.
Slashy (11:28 PM): that is my second favourite bit of the entire thing
Rachel T (11:29 PM): I got up to the part after the bit with the guy Russel made out with. Presumably in July when apparently EVERYBODY WAS IN A COMA.
Slashy (11:29 PM): yeah, july, dammit
Slashy (11:29 PM): Peter Andre
Slashy (11:29 PM): is the guy, by the way
Slashy (11:30 PM): he was married to Katie Price?
Slashy (11:30 PM): aka Jordan?
Rachel T (11:30 PM): Ah. Was he?
Slashy (11:30 PM): she's a crazy bitch
Slashy (11:30 PM): Graham pretended to be her about a week ago on his show
Rachel T (11:30 PM): Wasn't she the 'I kissed a girl' girl?
Rachel T (11:30 PM): No, that's katie perry, nvm
Slashy (11:30 PM): that's Katy with a 'y'
Slashy (11:31 PM): Peter Andre and Jordan were the winners of one of Britains Survivor-esque reality shows
Slashy (11:31 PM): they were Britains cutest couple for about two years
Rachel T (11:32 PM): Oh, them!
Rachel T (11:32 PM): posted
Slashy (11:32 PM): yeah. they hosted The Friday Night Project at least once
Slashy (11:33 PM): . . .since when does Torchwood need a "(UK)" label?
Rachel T (11:33 PM): because they're bringing it here?
Slashy (11:34 PM): are they? no, even if they ARE, and that's SO CLEARLY a mistake, it's not here YET. I HATE the "(UK)" label
Rachel T (11:35 PM): I guess just because it's a UK show. I dunno. It's IMDB, it's stupid.
Slashy (11:35 PM): actually, I'm on tv.com
Rachel T (11:35 PM): We're not sure if they're bringing it here yet.
Rachel T (11:35 PM): *sigh* the fools.
Slashy (11:35 PM): and SJA and DW don't have a bloody UK label
Rachel T (11:35 PM): That's the spec though, that since Rusty moved here, he's bringing the show with him.
Slashy (11:37 PM): how can you even DO that, though?
Rachel T (11:37 PM): I dunno. They brought a bunch of shows across the pond.
Rachel T (11:37 PM): Maybe they're just starting from scratch.
Rachel T (11:38 PM): If they are, I want SamStoryteller onboard because holy shit, Second City Torchwood is fucking epic.
Slashy (11:45 PM): posted
Rachel T (11:47 PM): posted
Slashy (11:55 PM): posted
Rachel T (11:57 PM): posted
Slashy (12:02 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:03 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:05 AM): Such an interesting conversation we're having now
Slashy (12:05 AM): you noticed that, did you?
Rachel T (12:07 AM): I did.
Slashy (12:08 AM): okay, so, I'm writing my three fics for Life on Mars. Because I decided that three was a good number over a year ago when I started the great crossover project, or whatever it's called.
Rachel T (12:08 AM): mm
Slashy (12:08 AM): when I finish them, I can actually start writing at 'verse where Test Card Girl is the Rani
Rachel T (12:08 AM): ooo
Slashy (12:09 AM): I have ideas for that 'verse and how certain people can to be where they are
Rachel T (12:09 AM): Neat
Rachel T (12:09 AM): I'm sensing a 'but'.
Slashy (12:09 AM): it involves the Weeping Angels
Rachel T (12:10 AM): sh
Rachel T (12:10 AM): *ah
Slashy (12:10 AM): and I can't write Eleven yet, but I'm sure that I need him and his Tardis
Slashy (12:10 AM): and I know it takes place AFTER tEoT
Rachel T (12:10 AM): I'm seeing your problem.
Slashy (12:11 AM): but fuck if I know how to get everyone where I need them neatly
Slashy (12:11 AM): because the Master needs to be much cleverer than the Doctor
Slashy (12:11 AM): and technically so does the Rani
Slashy (12:11 AM): and that's JUST NOT HAPPENING
Rachel T (12:11 AM): The Master is about as clever as the Doctor.
Rachel T (12:12 AM): I have no idea about the Rani.
Rachel T (12:12 AM): But the Master is about as clever as the Doctor, just sneakier.
Slashy (12:12 AM): but the Doctor isn't thick enough to leave the laser screwdriver and the chameleon circuit lying around where the Master can get at them
Rachel T (12:13 AM): ....no.
Slashy (12:13 AM): which means either the Master has to be much cleverer than the Doctor, or it has to be the Doctor's idea in the first place
Slashy (12:13 AM): and the Rani has to be able to hide herself from the Doctor while remaining a Time Lady, in the seventies
Rachel T (12:14 AM): hmm...
Slashy (12:14 AM): that's the bit that's getting me right now
Slashy (12:14 AM): because I can get around it being the Doctor's idea. in fact, I can make that work much better than it being a scheme of the Master's
Slashy (12:14 AM): but I can't figure out the Rani
Slashy (12:15 AM): other than that she's a twat, but that's kinda obvious as she's Test Card Girl
Rachel T (12:15 AM): huh.
Slashy (12:17 AM): because, okay, you take the laser screwdriver and the chameleon circuit to make the Master into a baby human
Slashy (12:17 AM): and you give that baby to Ruth and Vic Tyler, Pete's cousins
Slashy (12:17 AM): and they name him Sam and raise him
Slashy (12:18 AM): and then the Weeping Angels send him back to 1973
Slashy (12:18 AM): and the Rani decides to fuck with his head
Slashy (12:18 AM): because she is a twat
Rachel T (12:18 AM): of course
Slashy (12:18 AM): but she'd have gotten caught early series 1 unless she was somehow hidden from the Doctor
Rachel T (12:19 AM): huh.
Slashy (12:19 AM): and it's CLEARLY not Archangel hiding her back in 1973
Rachel T (12:19 AM): clearly.
Rachel T (12:20 AM): The clown is some kind of psychic cloaking...thing?
Slashy (12:21 AM): . . .it feeds on fear in SJA, the clown does. it was the original pied piper, a shapeshifter that feeds off psychic energy.
Slashy (12:21 AM): thank you
Rachel T (12:21 AM): ^^
Slashy (12:21 AM): *snog*
Rachel T (12:21 AM): *is snogged*
Slashy (12:22 AM): okay, so now my next problem is the series 2 finale
Rachel T (12:22 AM): mmkay.
Slashy (12:22 AM): because someone Sam Tyler ends up back in 2007, and meanwhile his body was in a coma
Slashy (12:22 AM): and then he jumps off a building and lands back in 1974
Slashy (12:22 AM): what the fuck do I do with this?
Slashy (12:22 AM): *someHOW
Slashy (12:23 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:23 AM): I love how fucking ridiculous those 'other person is typing' messages get.
Rachel T (12:23 AM): I noticed.
Rachel T (12:23 AM): The Doctor cottoned on, realised he was happy in 1974, and healed him up with nanites, then sent him back in time?
Slashy (12:24 AM): see, I'll buy that the Doctor healed him and left him in 1974 to live out the rest of his life
Slashy (12:24 AM): but what about his BODY IN A COMA for two years?
Rachel T (12:25 AM): uh...
Slashy (12:25 AM): yeah, that's where I'm stuck now
Rachel T (12:26 AM): posted
Slashy (12:26 AM): because I can bend canon enough to say that some Weeping Angels send you forward in time instead of backwards, because if all they do is feed off the potential energy of the life you would have lived, it doesn't matter which WAY them temorally displace you
Slashy (12:26 AM): I can get him back to 2007 just fine
Rachel T (12:26 AM): Yeah.
Slashy (12:26 AM): it's the, his body was there in a coma for two years thing
Rachel T (12:26 AM): the Rani mindfucking everyone? somehow.
Slashy (12:27 AM): how?
Rachel T (12:27 AM): I don't know.
Rachel T (12:27 AM): magic technology.
Slashy (12:28 AM): . . .okay, i get that RUSTY doesn't care, but I fucking do
Slashy (12:28 AM): so it has to MAKE FUCKING SENSE
Rachel T (12:28 AM): hmmm....
Slashy (12:30 AM): see, archangel wasn't running in 2006
Slashy (12:31 AM): if it was, then instead of using nanites to heal him, the Doctor could have turned him back
Rachel T (12:31 AM): It was in 07, right?
Rachel T (12:31 AM): it would've been.
Rachel T (12:31 AM): well, it depends, actually.
Rachel T (12:31 AM): se3 was 08, wasn't it?
Slashy (12:31 AM): and he could have been in a healing coma, with archangel keeping the hospital hypnotized not to notice his second heart
Slashy (12:32 AM): um. . .yeah. Martha was '08
Rachel T (12:32 AM): if it was in early 08, then a year and a half previously could've been 06.
Rachel T (12:32 AM): Do we get a date for the first ep of LoM?
Slashy (12:32 AM): I can check
Slashy (12:33 AM): if archangel was running, it could, theoretically, hypnotically hide the Master's second heart.
Rachel T (12:33 AM): Yeah.
Slashy (12:33 AM): it would be LONG healing coma, but considering the lack of other Time Lords and Zero Rooms, I could understand it
Rachel T (12:33 AM): Mm.
Slashy (12:36 AM): we don't have a canon date for LoM, but the first episode aired on 9 January.
Rachel T (12:36 AM): That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Rachel T (12:36 AM): Just that it started in January.
Slashy (12:37 AM): i know
Slashy (12:37 AM): i'm looking for dates in the trivia
Slashy (12:38 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:39 AM): Oh dear. We've entered speaking bits.
Rachel T (12:39 AM): posted
Slashy (12:40 AM): episode 3 was march 16th in 1973. trying to figure out how time there corresponds subjectively to time in 2006
Rachel T (12:41 AM): does it need to?
Slashy (12:41 AM): it would be helpful if it did, because then I'd have fucking DATES
Rachel T (12:41 AM): could just be some randomass date.
Slashy (12:42 AM): March 16th is the date same gives into the interview tape. if it's the same date in 2006, I will at least know when I am.
Rachel T (12:42 AM): true.
Rachel T (12:43 AM): but that knocks out the 'in a healing coma' thing.
Slashy (12:43 AM): i know
Slashy (12:43 AM): that's why i'm still looking for dates in the other episodes
Slashy (12:44 AM): hopefully ones that prove that time passes at subjectively the same RATE, while allowing 2006 to be several months ahead
Slashy (12:44 AM): because that would be nice
Rachel T (12:44 AM): that'd be lovely
Rachel T (12:45 AM): INT. SAM’S APARTMENT - LIVING ROOM - DAY 1/1 07:08
Rachel T (12:45 AM): that's what's in the script.
Slashy (12:45 AM): where'd you find the script?
Rachel T (12:46 AM): Honest to god, I can't remember.
Rachel T (12:46 AM): I've had it for ages
Slashy (12:46 AM): *did not fucking squeak upon reading the word script, dammit*
Rachel T (12:46 AM): I can email it to you, if you'd like
Slashy (12:46 AM): sure
Rachel T (12:47 AM): sent
Slashy (12:48 AM): episode 5 is meant to be April. . .if time is really going that slowly per series. . .
Rachel T (12:48 AM): I am now reminded of how fucking awesome Boston Legal is.
Slashy (12:49 AM): because?
Rachel T (12:49 AM): dm.senixee.net/youareapirate.swf
Rachel T (12:49 AM): not htat
Rachel T (12:49 AM): *that
Rachel T (12:49 AM): the ending.
Rachel T (12:50 AM): James Spader and William Shatner get married.
Slashy (12:50 AM): . . .i feel as if I should have something to say here
Slashy (12:50 AM): but I don't
Rachel T (12:51 AM): sorry.
Rachel T (12:51 AM): ugh.
Slashy (12:52 AM): "Sam sees the chance to prevent a murder when he comes across the
younger version of a villain he will arrest in the future. But he
worries that, back in 2006, Tony Crane might be released from remand
and exact revenge on Sam's comatose body."
Slashy (12:52 AM): that is a very unfortunately worded summary
Rachel T (12:52 AM): ...yes.
Rachel T (12:52 AM): Is your rape sense tingling as well?
Slashy (12:52 AM): yes
Slashy (12:52 AM): yes it is
Slashy (12:53 AM): hmm, series 2 is also taking place in 2006
Slashy (12:53 AM): this is not looking good
Slashy (12:55 AM): posted
Rachel T (1:00 AM): posted
Slashy (1:03 AM): "It is revealed in the final episode that Sam's coma had lasted so long because he had a tumour of the brain."
Rachel T (1:03 AM): ...
Slashy (1:04 AM): okay, so I'm reworking my plot
Slashy (1:04 AM): the Rani, while fucking with his head, gave him a tumour
Slashy (1:04 AM): he collapses after leaving the team in that scene at the end of S2E8
Rachel T (1:04 AM): really, though, why the fuck not?
Slashy (1:05 AM): at this point, the Doctor has finally tracked the Master down, the proper way, not the 'let the Angel touch me too' way, because that would be thick
Rachel T (1:05 AM): yes
Slashy (1:06 AM): he find the Rani, and the dying Master, and brings them both back to 2006
Slashy (1:07 AM): where he leaves the Master, still as a human, in the hospital while he deals with the Rani
Slashy (1:07 AM): gets back from that just in time for Sam to jump off the roof
Slashy (1:08 AM): nanites, seven years back in the seventies, at the end of which the Doctor him back his fob watch
Slashy (1:08 AM): yes?
Slashy (1:08 AM): is sense making?
Rachel T (1:09 AM): yes
Slashy (1:11 AM): aside from the WORD that is completely missing from that last sentence. Wow. Oops.
Rachel T (1:11 AM): Y'know I totally didn't even notice
Slashy (1:12 AM): okay, so that covers the canon
Slashy (1:12 AM): now I need to figure out what he's done with the Rani
Rachel T (1:13 AM): He's decided to keep her?
Slashy (1:13 AM): if he was going to keep her he wouldn't have taken her somewhere else to deal with her
Slashy (1:13 AM): and he needs to, because Sam needs to wake up and live in the "present" for a while before deciding to jump off that roof
Slashy (1:14 AM): and the Doctor clearly can't be around for that
Rachel T (1:14 AM): hmm.
Rachel T (1:14 AM): He takes her to see where Gallifrey once was to get her to quit being such a royal bitch?
Slashy (1:15 AM): . . .no
Slashy (1:15 AM): i want him to trap her in the mirror with the girl with the red balloon
Rachel T (1:15 AM): oookay
Slashy (1:15 AM): even though I KNOW that that's a spectacularly BAD idea
Slashy (1:16 AM): because then the girl with the red balloon can get the Rani's Time Lady body
Rachel T (1:16 AM): That does sound rather bad
Slashy (1:16 AM): . . .or they can make a deal
Slashy (1:17 AM): the Rani promises the girl with the red balloon the Master's Time Lord essense
Slashy (1:17 AM): so they work together to get out of the mirror (the Rani is clever enough) and they go to steal the fob watch
Slashy (1:18 AM): this being sometime during Sam Tyler's seven years in the 70's
Rachel T (1:18 AM): ooo
Rachel T (1:18 AM): fun
Slashy (1:19 AM): so they have to be able to track the Doctor's Tardis somehow
Rachel T (1:19 AM): posted and now have the bloody soup crimp stuck in my head.
Slashy (1:19 AM): I assume the Doctor took the Family of Blood's Vortex Manipulator, or else it blew up with the rest of the ship
Rachel T (1:20 AM): I find this very likely
Slashy (1:20 AM): so they don't have this
Slashy (1:20 AM): they either need the Rani's Tardis, which I imagine can track the Doctor's Tardis
Rachel T (1:20 AM): I just have this picture of them in my head, sneaking up behind Jack and mugging him.
Slashy (1:20 AM): or that
Rachel T (1:21 AM): But how would he get it back?
Slashy (1:21 AM): the Doctor would give it back
Slashy (1:21 AM): after he defeated the Rani
Slashy (1:21 AM): because it's still Jack's property
Rachel T (1:21 AM): hmm. and poor Jack is like... how much longer do I have to wait? srsly, thirty years?
Rachel T (1:22 AM): But he'd give it back just as broken as it was originally.
Slashy (1:22 AM): i wonder when they'd get out of the mirror
Slashy (1:22 AM): it doesn't have to be in the 70's for them
Slashy (1:22 AM): they could just as easily be up in 2006
Rachel T (1:23 AM): huh.
Slashy (1:23 AM): where the Master's unconcious body is. . .
Rachel T (1:23 AM): my rape sense is tingling again
Slashy (1:23 AM): they are physically about 10 and 13!
Slashy (1:23 AM): but they could probably hold it for ransom
Rachel T (1:23 AM): That does not stop my rape sense from tingling.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): at all.
Slashy (1:24 AM): *giggle*
Slashy (1:24 AM): okay, they are not going to rape him
Rachel T (1:24 AM): *sticks tongue out most petulantly*
Rachel T (1:24 AM): I figured.
Slashy (1:24 AM): if they were going to rape him, then instead of mugging Jack they would seduce him
Rachel T (1:24 AM): xd
Slashy (1:24 AM): and they are physically only 10 and 13
Slashy (1:24 AM): again
Rachel T (1:24 AM): Slashy subtext is typing something utterly brilliant.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): wow.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): I love yahoo
Rachel T (1:25 AM): those are funny
Slashy (1:25 AM): so, do they arrive in the 70's, or sometime in the present day
Slashy (1:25 AM): . . .how terrifying is it that I want them to arrive during Harry Saxon's rise to power
Slashy (1:26 AM): so that they can get him to help them
Rachel T (1:26 AM): that would be fucking awesome.
Slashy (1:26 AM): by pretending to be Sam's identical twin, separated at birth
Slashy (1:26 AM): if they timed it right, of course
Slashy (1:27 AM): because Saxon would only just be arriving a few months before Sam wakes up
Rachel T (1:27 AM): right
Slashy (1:27 AM): so they get Saxon on their side, I'll work out how in a minute because somehow I doubt the truth would go over well
Slashy (1:28 AM): and he helps them get Sam's body out of the hospital
Slashy (1:28 AM): so they can hold it ransom
Rachel T (1:28 AM): right
Slashy (1:28 AM): okay, then there's the year that never was
Slashy (1:29 AM): i can ignore it, or I can get them on the Valiant
Rachel T (1:29 AM): perhaps the Doctor defeats them before? And 11 can obviously know better than to cross his timelines.
Slashy (1:29 AM): I want them in the year that never was
Slashy (1:29 AM): because I want Ten
Rachel T (1:30 AM): ah
Slashy (1:30 AM): or around the year that never was, anyway
Slashy (1:30 AM): i'm not sure i want to actually give them that whole year
Rachel T (1:31 AM): do we know who won the epic battle between John and NPH?
Slashy (1:31 AM): NPH won
Rachel T (1:31 AM): damn
Slashy (1:31 AM): can't you just check AE like everybody else?
Rachel T (1:31 AM): I am far too lazy for that
Rachel T (1:32 AM): who the hell do you think you're talking to, someone with any form of *drive*?
Slashy (1:32 AM): obviously not
Slashy (1:32 AM): the girl with the red balloon isn't going to last a whole year
Rachel T (1:32 AM): no
Slashy (1:32 AM): so she needs another body
Slashy (1:33 AM): is it wrong that I sort of want to give her Lucy?
Rachel T (1:33 AM): ...Is it bad that I want it to be one of the TW crew captured by the Master to torture Jack?
Slashy (1:34 AM): of course, it can't be either of those, because it needs to be someone who is on the Valiant, survives, and most importantly, disappears afterwards
Rachel T (1:34 AM): some poor random soldier.
Slashy (1:35 AM): . . .is it wrong that I hope the Master kidnapped Annalise as well? Because I want to give her Annalise.
Rachel T (1:36 AM): You should do it.
Slashy (1:36 AM): okay, Saxon, when he got Martha's family, also got Annalise
Slashy (1:36 AM): but he didn't make her work, near the Doctor, because the Doctor doesn't care about her
Slashy (1:36 AM): that's why we never saw her
Rachel T (1:36 AM): right
Slashy (1:37 AM): so the Rani gives Sister-of-Mine Annalise for her new body, that should last her through the year that never was
Rachel T (1:37 AM): right
Slashy (1:38 AM): so now we have to deal with, where are they hiding Sam Tyler's body on the Valiant?
Slashy (1:38 AM): also, obviously, the Rani and Sister-of-Mine do not tell Saxon about how spectacularly he is about to fail
Rachel T (1:39 AM): oh clearly
Slashy (1:39 AM): though they might be a bit smirky about it
Rachel T (1:39 AM): oh of course
Slashy (1:39 AM): okay, before I try to find Sam's body. Does Saxon know about Annalise/Sister-of-Mine?
Slashy (1:40 AM): or, rather, did he know before they did it
Slashy (1:40 AM): because obviously he'll figure it out if he didn't
Slashy (1:40 AM): he's not DUMB
Rachel T (1:40 AM): I'm thinking sure, why not
Slashy (1:40 AM): okay, so, Sam's body
Slashy (1:41 AM): it has to be hidden somewhere Ten will never see it
Slashy (1:41 AM): but where the Rani and Sister-of-Mine can keep an eye on it
Rachel T (1:41 AM): doesn't the master find it odd that he looks exactly like him?
Slashy (1:41 AM): . . .thinking.
Slashy (1:42 AM): okay, that's how they get him to work with them
Rachel T (1:42 AM): ?
Slashy (1:42 AM): they tell him he wins
Slashy (1:42 AM): but the Doctor poisoned him
Rachel T (1:42 AM): ahh
Slashy (1:42 AM): and they're trying to cure him
Slashy (1:42 AM): so clearly they're on his side
Rachel T (1:42 AM): he doesn't find that suspicious? That the Doctor poisoned him?
Slashy (1:43 AM): i didn't say he trusted them completely
Slashy (1:43 AM): but it's not outside the realm of possibility that the Doctor would poison him
Slashy (1:43 AM): if it was something non-lethal
Rachel T (1:43 AM): true.
Rachel T (1:43 AM): just made him comatose until he could figure out what to do with him.
Slashy (1:44 AM): mm, or. . .
Slashy (1:44 AM): i'm thinking
Slashy (1:44 AM): wait
Slashy (1:44 AM): or to try to take the drums away, to make him "well"
Slashy (1:44 AM): which is clearly not something the Master wants
Rachel T (1:44 AM): mm
Slashy (1:45 AM): okay, not that that's settled
Slashy (1:45 AM): I really need to find a place to hide Sam Tyler's comatose body, please
Rachel T (1:45 AM): In the very bowels of the ship
Slashy (1:45 AM): someplace with medical supplies and such
Slashy (1:45 AM): he is on life-support
Rachel T (1:46 AM): the infirmary?
Rachel T (1:46 AM): wouldn't there be one?
Slashy (1:46 AM): maybe
Slashy (1:46 AM): does it deadbolt shut? just in case?
Rachel T (1:46 AM): sure
Slashy (1:46 AM): okay. it's a good place for the to hole up once the end is near
Rachel T (1:47 AM): aye
Slashy (1:47 AM): they still have the Vortex Manipulator they stole from Jack, because they haven't been defeated by Eleven yet
Slashy (1:47 AM): Saxon does not know they have this
Rachel T (1:47 AM): right
Rachel T (1:47 AM): no.
Slashy (1:47 AM): because otherwise he would have taken it away and used it
Rachel T (1:48 AM): yes
Slashy (1:48 AM): so after the paradox machine is down
Slashy (1:48 AM): they go back down to Earth, because they don't want to get caught in the middle of the UNIT ship
Rachel T (1:48 AM): right
Slashy (1:48 AM): not by UNIT and certainly not by Ten
Slashy (1:48 AM): although THAT would make a good story
Slashy (1:49 AM): of course, actual canon standing in the way, I cannot allow Ten to find Sam Tyler, not even afterwards
Rachel T (1:49 AM): right
Slashy (1:50 AM): unless they wiped his memory after
Slashy (1:50 AM): which gets messy and complicated, and with all the time travel it's messy and complicated enough, right?
Rachel T (1:50 AM): aye
Slashy (1:51 AM): okay, so they go back down to the Earth
Slashy (1:51 AM): now they have to find Eleven
Slashy (1:51 AM): so either they track his Tardis, or they hang around until after tEoT
Slashy (1:52 AM): I vote they track his Tardis
Rachel T (1:52 AM): aye
Rachel T (1:52 AM): sounds good
Slashy (1:54 AM): so they track his Tardis. . .but they're early
Slashy (1:55 AM): they end up in that hole in Cardiff, where the Tardis crashes immediately after tEoT
Slashy (1:55 AM): Eleven doesn't even know the Master survived yet
Slashy (1:55 AM): well, he does after they show up, obviously
Rachel T (1:55 AM): clearly
Slashy (1:56 AM): before he can figure out some clever way to defeat them, they vanish again
Rachel T (1:57 AM): "Slashy Subtext should really learn to type with more than two fingers..." yahoo doesn't like you.
Slashy (1:57 AM): by now they've drawn the attention of Gwen's Torchwood
Slashy (1:58 AM): query: when the Tardis crashed, did it crash through time as well as space? did he land in that gaping whole before or after Jack left the planet?
Rachel T (1:58 AM): after, I think.
Rachel T (1:58 AM): I figured it was just through space.
Slashy (1:59 AM): okay. so Gwen should have her Torchwood properly functional at this point
Rachel T (1:59 AM): and that tEoT was well after CoE
Slashy (1:59 AM): yes? proper, function Torchwood Gwen?
Rachel T (1:59 AM): Yes
Rachel T (1:59 AM): properly functioning TW Gwen
Rachel T (1:59 AM): because Jack isn't there to distract her from being cool.
Slashy (1:59 AM): okay
Slashy (2:00 AM): so, now we have Eleven and TW Gwen in. . .2011?
Rachel T (2:00 AM): probably
Slashy (2:00 AM): and the Rani and Sister-of-Mine tracking a later version of Eleven, sometime in the seventies
Rachel T (2:01 AM): yup
Slashy (2:01 AM): young!Eleven and TW Gwen first, then
Rachel T (2:01 AM): yus
Slashy (2:01 AM): there must be some angst over CoE, because There Must Be
Rachel T (2:02 AM): lots from Gwen.
Rachel T (2:02 AM): Because she, y'know, has lost ALMOST EVERYONE SHE CARES ABOUT within the last few months.
Slashy (2:02 AM): mm
Slashy (2:02 AM): what is TW Gwen's policy on the Doctor, do you think?
Rachel T (2:02 AM): I'm Pissed Off at him, but he has saved the world several times.
Rachel T (2:03 AM): not kill on sight, but definitely Proceed With Caution
Rachel T (2:03 AM): and ask him WHERE THE FUCK HE WAS during the 456 debacle
Slashy (2:03 AM): it was a fixed point and he'd already HAD that mental breakdown once
Rachel T (2:04 AM): yeah
Rachel T (2:04 AM): but Gwen doesn't know that.
Slashy (2:04 AM): then he'll tell her
Slashy (2:04 AM): i figure Eleven has to be good at SOMETHING
Slashy (2:04 AM): Does TW Gwen help repair the crashed Tardis?
Rachel T (2:04 AM): Sure. She can try, at least.
Rachel T (2:05 AM): ...is it bad that I now want COE Gwen to be 11's companion for a bit, now?
Slashy (2:05 AM): i can do that
Rachel T (2:05 AM): :glomp:
Slashy (2:05 AM): would Eleven ask for her help finding the Master, now that he knows he's alive? or would he be mister 'i'll find him on my own because I don't trust TW'?
Rachel T (2:06 AM): Well, she is a result of Jack's Torchwood, and she did help during that Earth-moving thing.
Rachel T (2:06 AM): So he might let her help
Slashy (2:07 AM): . . .turning him human when they find him is TW Gwen's condition for providing him with help
Slashy (2:07 AM): I needed a reason the Doctor would do such a thing
Rachel T (2:07 AM): right.
Slashy (2:07 AM): when he would clearly rather leave the Master an adult Time Lord and repopulate his species
Slashy (2:07 AM): ^_^
Rachel T (2:07 AM): xD
Slashy (2:08 AM): so while they find the Master and make him human and bring us right back around to where we started. . .
Slashy (2:10 AM): the Rani and Sister-of-Mine have tracked later!Eleven down, in 17. . .80. That's the year Sam Tyler dies, in a car chase, a year before DI Alex Drake lands. And I'm not touching A2A yet.
Slashy (2:10 AM): inability to type math correctly
Slashy (2:10 AM): ugh
Rachel T (2:10 AM): I was wondering about that
Slashy (2:10 AM): my fingers do not like typing math on a laptop
Slashy (2:11 AM): the lack of a numpad stops me from functioning properly
Rachel T (2:11 AM): I do hate that.
Slashy (2:11 AM): anyway, it IS the year 1980 when Sam Tyler dies
Rachel T (2:11 AM): That I actually knew.
Rachel T (2:11 AM): *gasp, shock, horror*
Slashy (2:11 AM): so that's when the fob watch is opens
Slashy (2:11 AM): *opened
Rachel T (2:11 AM): Right
Slashy (2:12 AM): which means that the Rani and Sister-of-Mine approach the Eleven with their ransom
Slashy (2:13 AM): now it's not as easy to trip Sister-of-Mine, because the Rani will know if the Master is human or Time Lord due to telepathy
Slashy (2:14 AM): *trick
Slashy (2:14 AM): ugh
Rachel T (2:14 AM): *hug* it's OK.
Rachel T (2:14 AM): It's 1 there, right?
Slashy (2:14 AM): yeah
Slashy (2:15 AM): okay, so, Eleven needs to get the Master's body away from the Rani and Sister-of-Mine, while still keeping hold of the fob watch
Rachel T (2:16 AM): uh huh
Slashy (2:16 AM): and it needs to make sense
Slashy (2:16 AM): and. . .where the fuck is the clown?
Rachel T (2:16 AM): it got left behind and mutated into that horrible thing in Ashes to Ashes?
Slashy (2:17 AM): I don't think it did. Also, it's a shapeshifter, so I don't think it mutated
Rachel T (2:17 AM): *shrug* I have not seen Ashes to Ashes
Slashy (2:17 AM): . . .the clown was hiding the Rani
Rachel T (2:17 AM): right
Slashy (2:17 AM): so if I know why it's working for her, I can turn it against her
Slashy (2:18 AM): why is the clown working with the Rani?
Rachel T (2:18 AM): shiggles?
Slashy (2:18 AM): because while the Rani was mindfucking Sam, it was feeding off his fear
Slashy (2:18 AM): so where did it go when Sam chose to go back?
Slashy (2:19 AM): he wasn't afraid of the Test Card Girl anymore
Rachel T (2:20 AM): perhaps it found someone else's fear to eat.
Slashy (2:20 AM): I need it to still be with the Rani
Slashy (2:20 AM): which means she's keeping it somehow
Slashy (2:21 AM): so if Eleven can free it from her, it might decide it owes him a favour
Slashy (2:22 AM): it could hide the Master from the Rani, so the Doctor could trick Sister-of-Mine just like he did in HN/FoB
Rachel T (2:23 AM): That could work.
Slashy (2:23 AM): but he'd have to free it from the Rani without the Rani noticing
Slashy (2:23 AM): i'll work on that
Slashy (2:24 AM): so now Eleven has do something with the Rani and Sister-of-Mine
Slashy (2:24 AM): obviously that whole mirror thing is not an option
Rachel T (2:24 AM): clearly
Slashy (2:25 AM): now, all he has to do is lock Sister-of-Mine up until she burns out and dies
Slashy (2:25 AM): so he can hand her over to TW Gwen
Rachel T (2:25 AM): Is that a wise idea?
Slashy (2:26 AM): probably not, but it gives me a length of rope later
Slashy (2:26 AM): now, what to do with the Rani?
Rachel T (2:26 AM): kay
Slashy (2:26 AM): I refuse to let Eleven keep her
Slashy (2:26 AM): because the Doctor, the Master, and the 13-year-old Rani is just WAAAAAAAAAY too domestic
Slashy (2:27 AM): thought it might make a good sitcom
Rachel T (2:27 AM): amusing mental image. but go on.
Slashy (2:27 AM): and he can't kill her, because there are still just the three Time Lords left (and Jenny and Donna, but they don't count)
Rachel T (2:28 AM): right
Slashy (2:28 AM): and he can't let her go
Slashy (2:28 AM): for reasons that should be obvious
Slashy (2:29 AM): . . .it's a shame she's blonde
Rachel T (2:29 AM): heh
Slashy (2:29 AM): okay, how do you force a regeneration without killing the Time Lord?
Slashy (2:30 AM): they did it once before, Two to Three wasn't an execution
Slashy (2:30 AM): and the girls are quite capable of regenerating on demand
Rachel T (2:30 AM): Sorry, that just reminds me of the Doctor's explanation of regeneration to Wilf
Rachel T (2:30 AM): Also, lol
Slashy (2:30 AM): heh
Slashy (2:30 AM): so she'd try to escape
Slashy (2:31 AM): by regenerating so the Doctor didn't recognize her
Slashy (2:31 AM): which would only work if they were inside Archangel again
Slashy (2:32 AM): so, why would they be in Archangel again?
Rachel T (2:32 AM): Were the satellites ever taken down?
Rachel T (2:32 AM): If so, how soon after?
Slashy (2:32 AM): yeah, but I don't know how soon after
Slashy (2:32 AM): I know they took them down, or otherwise deactivated them
Rachel T (2:32 AM): it takes a longass time to take down satellites.
Slashy (2:33 AM): but that's okay, because they have a legitimate reason to be within Archangel again
Slashy (2:33 AM): they have to put Sam Tyler's comatose body back
Rachel T (2:33 AM): right
Rachel T (2:33 AM): yup
Slashy (2:34 AM): so the Doctor puts Sam's body back while the Master who probably can't be trusted, and the Rani who definitely can't be trusted are alone in the Tardis. . .
Slashy (2:34 AM): no
Slashy (2:35 AM): he has to bring them with him
Slashy (2:36 AM): and the Rani tries to escape by regenerating and making a break for it
Slashy (2:36 AM): and the Master catches her, because Archangel was his
Slashy (2:36 AM): that seems out of character. . .
Slashy (2:37 AM): . . .he's very ticked at her for fucking with his head for a year, then holding him ransom
Rachel T (2:37 AM): oh yes
Slashy (2:37 AM): okay, that makes sense
Slashy (2:37 AM): so now she's got dark hair
Slashy (2:37 AM): and we can do the same thing to her that we did to the Master
Rachel T (2:37 AM): she should be ginger, just to make the doctor jealous.
Slashy (2:37 AM): she can't be ginger
Rachel T (2:38 AM): pourquoi?
Slashy (2:38 AM): she's going to be Alex Drake
Rachel T (2:38 AM): aaahhh
Slashy (2:38 AM): laser screwdriver, chameleon circuit. . .
Slashy (2:39 AM): and then she gets touched by a Weeping Angel
Slashy (2:39 AM): I have a theory that the Weeping Angels prefer Time Lords to humans and can therefore sense them
Rachel T (2:40 AM): neat
Slashy (2:40 AM): well, if you lived off potential energy, would you rather have 80 year average or 8000? you'd adapt to tell which was which
Rachel T (2:40 AM): "You now prossess Dracula's rib."
Slashy (2:41 AM): we don't know how A2A ends yet. there's still one more season
Slashy (2:41 AM): but we do know that that clown is well and truly pissed at the Rani
Rachel T (2:41 AM): right. well. abducting it would probably do that
Slashy (2:42 AM): okay. . .when the Doctor made the Master into Sam Tyler, he left him with Rose's family because he trusted them and didn't feel the need to stalk them to make sure they were protecting him
Slashy (2:43 AM): we don't know the Drake's
Slashy (2:43 AM): which means the Doctor must have someone watching the Rani
Slashy (2:45 AM): we know both her parents died when she was very young
Slashy (2:45 AM): which means it must be Evan
Slashy (2:46 AM): so now I have to figure out how Eleven knows Evan
Slashy (2:49 AM): this is usually the part where you say something helpful and contribute to the conversation
Rachel T (2:50 AM): I have no idea who the fuck Evan is.
Rachel T (2:50 AM): I don't know who the Drakes are. I assume the lady in Ashes to Ashes?
Slashy (2:51 AM): Evan is Alex's godfather
Slashy (2:51 AM): which is why I think it must be him the Doctor has watching out for her
Rachel T (2:51 AM): ah
Slashy (2:52 AM): but I need to know why Eleven KNOWS him
Rachel T (2:52 AM): uh... wasn't the doctor stuck in the seventies for a while?
Slashy (2:53 AM): with UNIT, working as a consultant
Rachel T (2:53 AM): He must've wandered about a lot
Rachel T (2:53 AM): They could've met, right?
Rachel T (2:54 AM): Maybe Evan helped him out or something.
Slashy (2:55 AM): Evan is a lawyer of some sort, I think.
Slashy (2:55 AM): it's not unreasonable to assume they would have met
Rachel T (2:55 AM): Terrified lawyer running.
Rachel T (2:55 AM): All I can picture is Denny running down a very long hallway.
Slashy (2:56 AM): also, if he IS the one the Doctor has watching Alex. . .he fucked that up SPECTACULARLY
Slashy (2:56 AM): he SLEPT with her MOTHER. her father found out and TRIED TO KILL THEM ALL.
Rachel T (2:57 AM): ...
Slashy (2:58 AM): yeah
Slashy (2:59 AM): so I'm thinking no on him supposed to be watching her
Rachel T (2:59 AM): mm
Slashy (2:59 AM): which means there is someone lurking around, protecting her while she grows up and I don't know who it is yet
Slashy (3:00 AM): meanwhile, Eleven and the Master. . .
Slashy (8:27 PM): hallo! person who exists! *flyingtackleglomp*
Rachel T (8:27 PM): *is glomped*
Rachel T (8:27 PM): my computer is EPIC FAIL and no longer runs actual YIM.
Slashy (8:27 PM): NICE
Rachel T (8:27 PM): so if I randomly sign off, it's because I closed the tab or firefox shuts down.
Slashy (8:28 PM): does your firefox tend to shut down often?
Rachel T (8:28 PM): occasionally.
Rachel T (8:28 PM): I've found that cracked has decided it hates me and I can't go *there* anymore.
Slashy (8:28 PM): I sorry
Rachel T (8:29 PM): *shrug* I may be getting a laptop soon, so I'm looking forward to that.
Slashy (8:29 PM): nice
Slashy (8:29 PM): yesterday, my computer randomly decided to remove all my video-watching plug-ins
Rachel T (8:29 PM): oh, ouch.
Rachel T (8:30 PM): Many sympathies.
Slashy (8:30 PM): you wouldn't think it would take FOUR FUCKING HOURS to re-download them all
Slashy (8:30 PM): I mean, really
Slashy (8:30 PM): oh, I posted, btw
Rachel T (8:30 PM): I did, too. lapdog
Rachel T (8:32 PM): huh. Why does 'an unique' sound so much weirder than 'a unique'? Obviously the first one is grammatically correct, but it just doesn't sound right.
Slashy (8:33 PM): because you pronounce the 'u' in 'unique' with a 'y' sound
Rachel T (8:33 PM): I suppose.
Slashy (8:34 PM): posted
Slashy (8:35 PM): so, I was rewatching the DWS4 finale the other day. . .
Rachel T (8:35 PM): Oh dear. What did you notice?
Rachel T (8:35 PM): and posed lapdog
Slashy (8:36 PM): . . .that typo there? amuses me
Rachel T (8:36 PM): lol
Rachel T (8:36 PM): DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE. Wow. I'm slow today.
Slashy (8:37 PM): if the Doctor had died in The Runaway Bride and never met Martha, then why were the stars going out in Turn Left? Because Caan only ended up in the Timelock because Daleks In Manhatten. . .
Rachel T (8:37 PM): ...
Rachel T (8:37 PM): Because Rusty is an idiot.
Rachel T (8:37 PM): also, posted word association.
Slashy (8:39 PM): I was actually looking for a reason that worked within the Whoniverse. I do understand that Rusty is a fucking moron. I want to make the canon WORK, dammit.
Slashy (8:39 PM): even if it is utter fail
Rachel T (8:40 PM): This is like trying to make the timeline of the whoniverse work properly. You just can't, and your head explodes trying.
Slashy (8:40 PM): posted
Slashy (8:40 PM): no, you can, it just takes more time and effort than I want to put in
Slashy (8:40 PM): and string
Rachel T (8:41 PM): When a timeline requires string, then the creators and continuity people get an EPIC FAIL.
Slashy (8:42 PM): yeah, well, working out timelines with time travel in the mix almost always requires string
Slashy (8:42 PM): it's just that that's the GOOD kind of string
Slashy (8:42 PM): as opposed to the Torchwood kind of string
Rachel T (8:42 PM): On Torchwood, where almost everything happens in linear time, THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): We should be able to line up where Tosh came in, where Owen came in, where Jack left
Slashy (8:43 PM): we should
Rachel T (8:43 PM): Well, when.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): But we cannot. Because every resource says something different.
Rachel T (8:43 PM): and it just pisses me off.
Slashy (8:44 PM): so instead of using every resource, we use our brains, and what we were given on screen
Slashy (8:44 PM): which is still FUCKING DIFFICULT
Slashy (8:44 PM): but more possible than trying to reconcile novels and resource books
Rachel T (8:45 PM): I know.
Rachel T (8:45 PM): I still can't get over the EoD/Utopia thing.
Slashy (8:47 PM): yes, that's what we call failing to collaborate
Slashy (8:47 PM): writers should actually TALK to other writers
Rachel T (8:47 PM): That's just what we call fail.
Rachel T (8:47 PM): They really ought to.
Rachel T (8:47 PM): Also, posted
Slashy (8:49 PM): I have theories about what they meant to accomplish there, but. . .none of them are any good.
Slashy (8:49 PM): and my theories are usually pretty good
Slashy (8:49 PM): posted
Rachel T (8:49 PM): They are usually pretty good.
Slashy (8:51 PM): also, I called the Weeping Lady the Weeping Lady instead of the Woman BEFORE evil!Rassilon compared her to "the Weeping Angels of old". Do I feel smug?
Rachel T (8:51 PM): I'm guessing yes.
Slashy (8:51 PM): you're guessing correctly
Rachel T (8:51 PM): posted
Rachel T (8:53 PM): "It's Neal."
Elizabeth blushed or it wasn't really a blush. It was pink cheeked arousal. "You're going to collar Neal? Can I watch?"
"Do I know you?"
"Elizabeth, your wife, you married me because I wasn't boring."
Slashy (8:53 PM): I have theories about the Weeping Angels. And that frightens me, because the Weeping Angels are one of a very few villains who ACTUALLY frighten me. I hate that I lie awake at night thinking about them.
Rachel T (8:54 PM): Trufax: the angels are fucking TERRIFYING.
Rachel T (8:54 PM): And I probably can't spell.
Slashy (8:56 PM): off the top of my head, the Angels and the Vashta Nerada are the only things that STILL frighten on second/third/twentieth viewing. And yet, I want to get inside the Angels brains.
Slashy (8:56 PM): ugh
Rachel T (8:56 PM): you are a strange one.
Rachel T (8:57 PM): Also, 'ps happy christmas' is brilliant.
Slashy (8:57 PM): thank you, I woke up with it in my head this morning
Rachel T (8:58 PM): I especially like the line about Jack having the phone number of every person on the planet.
Rachel T (8:58 PM): brb
Slashy (8:59 PM): well, he does.
Rachel T (8:59 PM): oh, absolutely
Slashy (9:00 PM): I had so much FUN writing that. Do you know the last time writing was actually FUN for me?
Rachel T (9:00 PM): I can't even fathom the idea of having this 'fun' writing. /s
Slashy (9:02 PM): I wrote "PS", then immediately wrote "Blatent Foreshadowing", and about half of an EoT fix it
Slashy (9:02 PM): because as much as I LOVED tEoT, the fact that the Master just vanished bugs the hell out of me
Rachel T (9:03 PM): Yeah.
Rachel T (9:03 PM): And no one comments on it, that's annoying ,too.
Slashy (9:05 PM): yup. but I figure, if the Master hadn't disappeared, the Doctor could have thrown all his regeneration energy at him and that would have fixed his dissipating into electricity thing and the Doctor wouldn't have to regenerate
Slashy (9:05 PM): and then the Doctor could go back to his original plan of keeping the Master
Slashy (9:05 PM): and it would be pretty
Rachel T (9:06 PM): Which would've been great, but it wouldn't have been the dead we'd been building toward all season.
Slashy (9:08 PM): no. not that the Doctor has never COMPLETELY FUCKING CHEATED before or anything. . .
Rachel T (9:08 PM): No, it's not like that at all
Slashy (9:08 PM): *is NOT bitter*
Rachel T (9:08 PM): I can tell
Rachel T (9:09 PM): I have TOO MUCH FUCKING MUSIC
Slashy (9:09 PM): i sorry
Rachel T (9:09 PM): And I never thought I'd say that
Slashy (9:09 PM): in my personal canon, the Master did not fall into the Timelock or vanish, he was thrown clear of the building by the force of his own electricity zapper and immediately ran off to continue eating hobos
Rachel T (9:10 PM): I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything
Rachel T (9:10 PM): did I mention posted?
Slashy (9:10 PM): and the Doctor is just oblivious enough not to notice
Slashy (9:10 PM): . . .you did. I got distracted
Rachel T (9:10 PM): He's too busy emoly saying goodbye to his friends because HE'S NEVER EVER GOING TO SEE THEM AGAIN.
Rachel T (9:11 PM): EVER.
Slashy (9:13 PM): I liked most of the goodbyes. Because, really, it's not that HE'S never going to see THEM, it's that they're never going to see HIM again. And they won't.
Slashy (9:13 PM): And there's no way in hell Eleven is going to be better than Ten
Slashy (9:13 PM): No. Way. In. Hell.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): I was just getting *used* to ten.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): I was liking Ten.
Rachel T (9:13 PM): It wasn't that I don't like David.
Rachel T (9:14 PM): I do, I really do. He's absolutely brilliant (I tried to spell that 'absoslutly, btw). I am just bad at change. Especially on TV
Rachel T (9:15 PM): I'm way worse at change on TV than I am at change IRL. So the Chris to David transition took me a Very Long Time to get used to.
Rachel T (9:15 PM): But I was liking Ten. And now they've changed him.
Rachel T (9:15 PM): Also, my brother liked Ten. And was sad to see him go.
Rachel T (9:16 PM): My freaking brother.
Slashy (9:16 PM): you are clearly not one of the many who enjoyed the Classic Who in preparation for NuWho
Rachel T (9:17 PM): no.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): I am not.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): Tate gave me the first season and I was like. ooh. This is good.
Rachel T (9:17 PM): And then I never got to see season two, so I just jumped into season 3 and TW.
Rachel T (9:18 PM): poste
Rachel T (9:18 PM): *d
Slashy (9:19 PM): . . .you've not even seen Series Two?
Rachel T (9:19 PM): I've seen bits.
Rachel T (9:20 PM): Everytime I try to watch on the internet, the video either stops loading or the audio and video are such crap that I can't even watch it.
Rachel T (9:20 PM): I've seen, uh, the last four episodes and Fear Her, I think.
Slashy (9:23 PM): Fear Her is GOOD
Rachel T (9:23 PM): It is. I really did like it.
Slashy (9:23 PM): Love & Monsters is NOT
Slashy (9:23 PM): the rest of Series Two is decent
Rachel T (9:23 PM): I gleaned what I needed to know from Wikipedia and Tate.
Slashy (9:24 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:25 PM): posted
Slashy (9:25 PM): actually, in retrospect, Series Two doesn't make me want to pull my hair out as much as later series do
Rachel T (9:26 PM): really?
Rachel T (9:27 PM): With a series-arc of 'Torchwood', you'd think it'd be completely incompetent.
Slashy (9:28 PM): you'd think. but I don't have as many nitpicks with it as I do with the others
Slashy (9:28 PM): tho that may be because I haven't watched it since it aired, and I don't care about Rose anywhere near as much as I care about Martha and Donna
Rachel T (9:29 PM): Poor Martha and Donna, who got ignored and screwed over.
Slashy (9:29 PM): still, if I travelled with the Doctor, I'd rather go out like Donna than like Adric
Slashy (9:29 PM): there are worse fates
Rachel T (9:30 PM): Adric crashed his spaceship into the dinosaurs, right?
Slashy (9:30 PM): yupsies
Slashy (9:30 PM): also, I'm pretty sure Adric got raped by the Master at least twice. Back before the Master was pretty
Rachel T (9:31 PM): ...
Rachel T (9:31 PM): Speaking of Rape.
Slashy (9:31 PM): . . .not that that should make a difference. Rape is still wrong.
Rachel T (9:31 PM): which is not something that should be really spoken about as a 'speaking of' sort of thing.
Slashy (9:31 PM): *tries to cover dodginess of phrasing*
Rachel T (9:31 PM): Have you seen the preview for next week's White Collar?
Rachel T (9:31 PM): With the drugged Neal?
Slashy (9:31 PM): No, I have not.
Slashy (9:32 PM): I might have to go look it up, tho
Rachel T (9:32 PM): It's on hulu
Slashy (9:32 PM): *will meander over there in a bit*
Slashy (9:33 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:35 PM): posted
Rachel T (9:38 PM): I hate my computer, I hate my computer, I HATE MY COMPUTER.
Rachel T (9:38 PM): It does not download things correctly
Rachel T (9:38 PM): ugh
Slashy (9:39 PM): what did it not download correctly?
Rachel T (9:39 PM): So, I'm trying to download iTunes.
Rachel T (9:39 PM): Because I have a gift card and, oh, I can get psych online. So I'm like, OK. Lassie Did a Bad, Bad Thing is one of my favorite episodes, so I'll get that.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So it's like, oh you have to sign up.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So I did.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): But it is apparently NOT THE LATEST VERSION OF ITUNES.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): Even though I downloaded it today
Rachel T (9:40 PM): So, Ok, I go check the site. There's a 64 bit version.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): I have no idea what that means, but whatever, I'll try that.
Rachel T (9:40 PM): FIREFOX CANCELS IT ON ITS OWN.
Slashy (9:41 PM): . . .
Slashy (9:41 PM): that's helpful
Rachel T (9:41 PM): So fuck this noise.
Rachel T (9:41 PM): And, of course, I'm not allowed to get anything without the latest version of iTunes.
Rachel T (9:43 PM): When he finally
finds himself standing in front of Neal’s door, his plan still pretty much
consists of “Step 1: say something charming, apologetic and articulate, and be
forgiven. Step 2: kiss and/or be kissed by Neal. Step 3: details pending.”
He makes himself knock anyway.
Slashy (9:43 PM): posted
Slashy (9:45 PM): y'know what's fun?
Rachel T (9:46 PM): hmmm?
Slashy (9:46 PM): when I'm trying to work on my To-Do List and I'm suddenly swamped with dive-bombing plot-bunnies.
Rachel T (9:46 PM): oh, posted btw
Rachel T (9:46 PM): Sounds like fun.
Slashy (9:48 PM): not just ordinary plotbunnies, the dive-bombing kind
Slashy (9:48 PM): I HATE the dive-bombing kind
Rachel T (9:48 PM): oh, they're the worst
Slashy (9:50 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:00 PM): posted
Slashy (10:00 PM): posted
Slashy (10:01 PM): Tatey-chan is going to kill me if I keep sending her things to beta at this rate
Rachel T (10:01 PM): lol
Slashy (10:01 PM): no, she really is
Slashy (10:02 PM): she's "having enough trouble keeping up with her coursework without me throwing more deadlines at her"
Slashy (10:02 PM): or something along those lines
Rachel T (10:02 PM): I offer my services, if you'd like.
Rachel T (10:02 PM): To stop the, y'know, murder an' all.
Slashy (10:03 PM): mm, that's very generous of you
Slashy (10:03 PM): I might just take you up on that
Slashy (10:03 PM): because murder is bad
Rachel T (10:03 PM): Yeah, it kinda is.
Slashy (10:03 PM): and Tatey-chan should be allowed to concentrate on her Creepy As Fuck biology teacher
Rachel T (10:03 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:03 PM): I'm sure she'd appreciate that
Slashy (10:03 PM): well, I'm sure she'd appreciate the passing
Rachel T (10:04 PM): mm
Slashy (10:04 PM): the having to concentrate on her bio teacher, i'm not so sure
Rachel T (10:04 PM): heh
Slashy (10:05 PM): he's CREEPY
Slashy (10:05 PM): and I don't creeped out by much
Rachel T (10:05 PM): is he?
Slashy (10:05 PM): have you not seen the post she made about him? in the "I can see you" thread?
Slashy (10:05 PM): Creepy
Slashy (10:06 PM): I mean, who SAYS that?
Rachel T (10:06 PM): yes.
Rachel T (10:06 PM): he is
Rachel T (10:06 PM): freaks?
Slashy (10:06 PM): freaks who teach at a christian college?
Slashy (10:06 PM): . . .forget I asked that
Rachel T (10:07 PM): I could really go on with that, y'know.
Rachel T (10:07 PM): But I won't.
Slashy (10:08 PM): i typed it, then i read it. and realized that i was being quite thick
Rachel T (10:08 PM): yeah. Not that all crazies are Christians or vice versa.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): You just hear a lot about the Christian crazies.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): And the Scientologist ones.
Rachel T (10:09 PM): but they're funnier to laugh at.
Slashy (10:09 PM): that's because religion brings out the crazy in people. and then they are loud and make the rest of us look bad
Slashy (10:09 PM): Southern Baptists, i'm looking at you
Rachel T (10:09 PM): yes.
Rachel T (10:10 PM): "So, in the future, no one's gay and no one's straight? Everybody just...does everybody?" "That's the size of it." "Ha! Hear me in the Bible Belt? YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!"
Rachel T (10:10 PM): There are days I love Garth Ennis.
Rachel T (10:10 PM): Not usually, but sometimes I do.
Slashy (10:12 PM): see, we're talking about religion, and church, and the like, and that's NOT WHERE MY BRAIN IS DAMMIT
Slashy (10:12 PM): has Tatey-chan told you what her brothers friend said in the church during youth group last night?
Rachel T (10:13 PM): No.
Rachel T (10:13 PM): What did he say?
Rachel T (10:13 PM): posted
Slashy (10:14 PM): okay, so, apparently, Jayen had Aylen dye his hair. which is a gay enough place to start this story
Rachel T (10:15 PM): ...I don't know who these people are.
Rachel T (10:15 PM): just to tell you.
Rachel T (10:15 PM): Which one's her brother? Aylen?
Slashy (10:15 PM): . . .didn't she give you a list?
Slashy (10:15 PM): wait a sec, I have a paper here where I wrote down their real names that time you accidentally gave them to me and Tate was annoyed
Slashy (10:16 PM): where is it? *goes to look*
Rachel T (10:16 PM): She probably did give me a list.
Slashy (10:17 PM): which you then lost
Slashy (10:17 PM): it's okay, I have it here
Rachel T (10:18 PM): who's surprised?
Slashy (10:18 PM): because you are apparently terrible at keeping secrets
Rachel T (10:18 PM): I'm not that bad. I'm just lazy and don't care.
Slashy (10:18 PM): okay, so: during the day, Jordan asks Nik to dye his hair for him.
Rachel T (10:18 PM): ...
Rachel T (10:18 PM): ogod
Slashy (10:19 PM): at youth group, Jordan yells at Nik for leaving black handprints on the walls
Slashy (10:19 PM): Nik says he didn't touch the walls and only got dye on one of his fingers
Slashy (10:19 PM): and friend whose name Tatey did not give me says: "So one finger turned into a whole hand?"
Slashy (10:20 PM): which would of course be where Tatey-chan started listening
Rachel T (10:20 PM): of course
Slashy (10:20 PM): posted
Slashy (10:20 PM): the things that go on in my brain at that sentence. . . poor Tatey-chan, being in church and all
Rachel T (10:21 PM): mmm
Slashy (10:21 PM): she said she escaped to the kitchen for some blue jello and to giggle madly
Rachel T (10:21 PM): xdd
Slashy (10:21 PM): and apparently, Jordan was hiding a bottle of mountain dew in the microwave and she stole some
Rachel T (10:21 PM): in the microwave?
Slashy (10:21 PM): yeah
Slashy (10:22 PM): that's what I said
Slashy (10:22 PM): that is NOT a good hiding place for a bottle of soda
Rachel T (10:22 PM): Agreed
Slashy (10:23 PM): Min is going to kill us for writing crack in the word association game
Slashy (10:23 PM): just so you know
Rachel T (10:23 PM): s'ok
Rachel T (10:24 PM): posted
Slashy (10:24 PM): . . .wasn't Tatey-chan online an hour ago?
Rachel T (10:24 PM): probably
Rachel T (10:24 PM): yes
Rachel T (10:24 PM): she was
Slashy (10:24 PM): she didn't stick around to play with us *sadface*
Rachel T (10:25 PM): WTF? Why did that happen?
Rachel T (10:25 PM): *pout* I dragged a tab to be a new window.
Rachel T (10:25 PM): A video tab. Which I closed.
Rachel T (10:25 PM): *is a retread*
Slashy (10:26 PM): is the typo for emphasis? *eyebrow*
Rachel T (10:26 PM): yes
Slashy (10:26 PM): are you just saying that to cover your mistake?
Rachel T (10:26 PM): no.
Rachel T (10:26 PM): It might be a new york thing.
Rachel T (10:27 PM): I dunno.
Rachel T (10:27 PM): We say it around here.
Slashy (10:27 PM): okay
Slashy (10:27 PM): whatever you say
Slashy (10:27 PM): I should really start that new game. . .
Rachel T (10:27 PM): mm
Rachel T (10:28 PM): posted
Slashy (10:30 PM): posted
Slashy (10:30 PM): this crack thing we have going should be a game of it's own
Rachel T (10:31 PM): One of those one-sentence deals? Well, a couple sentences.
Slashy (10:31 PM): it's more concept map/outline than fic. and we don't appear to be going for dialogue, which those one sentence things do. . .
Rachel T (10:32 PM): mm
Slashy (10:32 PM): Collaboration On Crack
Rachel T (10:32 PM): xD
Slashy (10:32 PM): yet another game thread i will probably never actually get around to creating
Rachel T (10:35 PM): posted
Slashy (10:38 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:38 PM): thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/13799-cf
Rachel T (10:41 PM): posted
Slashy (10:46 PM): posted
Rachel T (10:48 PM): posted
Slashy (10:48 PM): I CAN blame Rusty for "Blatent Foreshadowing", right? That's not just me being spiteful?
Rachel T (10:48 PM): Yes, no
Slashy (10:50 PM): okay
Slashy (10:50 PM): good
Slashy (10:50 PM): because i have a dim memory of cursing him in my authors note, and i want to feel justified
Rachel T (10:53 PM): yeah, Rusty!hate is always justified
Slashy (10:53 PM): posted
Slashy (10:53 PM): *giggle* not sure that's true
Slashy (10:53 PM): he's done some things for which i do not hate him
Rachel T (10:54 PM): True.
Slashy (10:54 PM): for example, bring back Doctor Who in the first place. Also, leaving.
Rachel T (10:54 PM): Yes.
Slashy (11:04 PM): ha. i inserted a bullshit analogy into Tatey-chan's History paper to up her word count. *smug*
Rachel T (11:04 PM): what was it?
Slashy (11:06 PM): okay, this was her topic:
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the
13 colonies were founded by different groups for different reasons,
how were these colonies able to unite against the threat of the
French?
Slashy (11:06 PM): urk, it wasn't supposed to copy the margins!
Rachel T (11:07 PM): What was the analogy?
Slashy (11:07 PM): and this is fifty-three words of BULL:
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like to compare the colonies to snow: each and every colony is a
different snowflake, completely separate in it's identity but still
obviously made of the same basic stuff, and if you apply enough
pressure they stick together and form a hard-packed snowball, ready
to launch at an enemy. Say, the French.
Slashy (11:07 PM): urk! margins!
Rachel T (11:08 PM): that's good. That's quite good.
Rachel T (11:08 PM): posted
Slashy (11:08 PM): it is also complete and utter bull
Slashy (11:08 PM): honest
Rachel T (11:08 PM): it's fantastic bull, tho
Slashy (11:08 PM): it's going to save Tatey-chan some time adding spare words to her paper
Slashy (11:08 PM): which is all it needs to do
Rachel T (11:09 PM): mm
Slashy (11:09 PM): (her paper is due in an hour. guess when she started.)
Rachel T (11:09 PM): It's still funny, though
Rachel T (11:09 PM): When she got offline?
Slashy (11:09 PM): well, i'm sure that's what she'll CLAIM
Rachel T (11:09 PM): probably an hour ago.
Slashy (11:14 PM): posted
Slashy (11:15 PM): you know what? reading essays online does not help when writing essays for college
Slashy (11:15 PM): at all
Rachel T (11:18 PM): no, I imagine not
Slashy (11:19 PM): i read, and then i want to write as i've read
Slashy (11:19 PM): and then i have to edit about 60 "fuck"s out of my paper before i turn it in
Rachel T (11:19 PM): lol. Yeah.
Rachel T (11:19 PM): ugh, cat!
Slashy (11:19 PM): i should do more in the revising stage than remove curse words from my draft
Slashy (11:19 PM): cat?
Rachel T (11:21 PM): "Oh, hey, I wanna come out of your room." I go to let cat out of room. "Lol, just kidding. GTFO." I come sit down again. "Oh, hey. I wanna come out of your room." I go to let him. out. "Just kidding. GTFO."
Rachel T (11:21 PM): So I just threw him into the basement.
Rachel T (11:21 PM): Also, ordering laptop tomorrow. FTW.
Slashy (11:23 PM): ah, animal cruelty and technology. . .it's almost like TBFQOTY
Rachel T (11:24 PM): Well, threw is a bit harsh.
Rachel T (11:24 PM): I threw him out of my room. He went running to the basement
Slashy (11:25 PM): ah
Slashy (11:26 PM): have you watched this years BFQOTY yet?
Rachel T (11:26 PM): The first halfish bit.
Rachel T (11:26 PM): Then my computer decided it hated me.
Slashy (11:28 PM): dude. did you get to the bit where Wossy and RB try to walk off?
Rachel T (11:28 PM): Yes.
Rachel T (11:28 PM): That was hilarious.
Slashy (11:28 PM): that is my second favourite bit of the entire thing
Rachel T (11:29 PM): I got up to the part after the bit with the guy Russel made out with. Presumably in July when apparently EVERYBODY WAS IN A COMA.
Slashy (11:29 PM): yeah, july, dammit
Slashy (11:29 PM): Peter Andre
Slashy (11:29 PM): is the guy, by the way
Slashy (11:30 PM): he was married to Katie Price?
Slashy (11:30 PM): aka Jordan?
Rachel T (11:30 PM): Ah. Was he?
Slashy (11:30 PM): she's a crazy bitch
Slashy (11:30 PM): Graham pretended to be her about a week ago on his show
Rachel T (11:30 PM): Wasn't she the 'I kissed a girl' girl?
Rachel T (11:30 PM): No, that's katie perry, nvm
Slashy (11:30 PM): that's Katy with a 'y'
Slashy (11:31 PM): Peter Andre and Jordan were the winners of one of Britains Survivor-esque reality shows
Slashy (11:31 PM): they were Britains cutest couple for about two years
Rachel T (11:32 PM): Oh, them!
Rachel T (11:32 PM): posted
Slashy (11:32 PM): yeah. they hosted The Friday Night Project at least once
Slashy (11:33 PM): . . .since when does Torchwood need a "(UK)" label?
Rachel T (11:33 PM): because they're bringing it here?
Slashy (11:34 PM): are they? no, even if they ARE, and that's SO CLEARLY a mistake, it's not here YET. I HATE the "(UK)" label
Rachel T (11:35 PM): I guess just because it's a UK show. I dunno. It's IMDB, it's stupid.
Slashy (11:35 PM): actually, I'm on tv.com
Rachel T (11:35 PM): We're not sure if they're bringing it here yet.
Rachel T (11:35 PM): *sigh* the fools.
Slashy (11:35 PM): and SJA and DW don't have a bloody UK label
Rachel T (11:35 PM): That's the spec though, that since Rusty moved here, he's bringing the show with him.
Slashy (11:37 PM): how can you even DO that, though?
Rachel T (11:37 PM): I dunno. They brought a bunch of shows across the pond.
Rachel T (11:37 PM): Maybe they're just starting from scratch.
Rachel T (11:38 PM): If they are, I want SamStoryteller onboard because holy shit, Second City Torchwood is fucking epic.
Slashy (11:45 PM): posted
Rachel T (11:47 PM): posted
Slashy (11:55 PM): posted
Rachel T (11:57 PM): posted
Slashy (12:02 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:03 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:05 AM): Such an interesting conversation we're having now
Slashy (12:05 AM): you noticed that, did you?
Rachel T (12:07 AM): I did.
Slashy (12:08 AM): okay, so, I'm writing my three fics for Life on Mars. Because I decided that three was a good number over a year ago when I started the great crossover project, or whatever it's called.
Rachel T (12:08 AM): mm
Slashy (12:08 AM): when I finish them, I can actually start writing at 'verse where Test Card Girl is the Rani
Rachel T (12:08 AM): ooo
Slashy (12:09 AM): I have ideas for that 'verse and how certain people can to be where they are
Rachel T (12:09 AM): Neat
Rachel T (12:09 AM): I'm sensing a 'but'.
Slashy (12:09 AM): it involves the Weeping Angels
Rachel T (12:10 AM): sh
Rachel T (12:10 AM): *ah
Slashy (12:10 AM): and I can't write Eleven yet, but I'm sure that I need him and his Tardis
Slashy (12:10 AM): and I know it takes place AFTER tEoT
Rachel T (12:10 AM): I'm seeing your problem.
Slashy (12:11 AM): but fuck if I know how to get everyone where I need them neatly
Slashy (12:11 AM): because the Master needs to be much cleverer than the Doctor
Slashy (12:11 AM): and technically so does the Rani
Slashy (12:11 AM): and that's JUST NOT HAPPENING
Rachel T (12:11 AM): The Master is about as clever as the Doctor.
Rachel T (12:12 AM): I have no idea about the Rani.
Rachel T (12:12 AM): But the Master is about as clever as the Doctor, just sneakier.
Slashy (12:12 AM): but the Doctor isn't thick enough to leave the laser screwdriver and the chameleon circuit lying around where the Master can get at them
Rachel T (12:13 AM): ....no.
Slashy (12:13 AM): which means either the Master has to be much cleverer than the Doctor, or it has to be the Doctor's idea in the first place
Slashy (12:13 AM): and the Rani has to be able to hide herself from the Doctor while remaining a Time Lady, in the seventies
Rachel T (12:14 AM): hmm...
Slashy (12:14 AM): that's the bit that's getting me right now
Slashy (12:14 AM): because I can get around it being the Doctor's idea. in fact, I can make that work much better than it being a scheme of the Master's
Slashy (12:14 AM): but I can't figure out the Rani
Slashy (12:15 AM): other than that she's a twat, but that's kinda obvious as she's Test Card Girl
Rachel T (12:15 AM): huh.
Slashy (12:17 AM): because, okay, you take the laser screwdriver and the chameleon circuit to make the Master into a baby human
Slashy (12:17 AM): and you give that baby to Ruth and Vic Tyler, Pete's cousins
Slashy (12:17 AM): and they name him Sam and raise him
Slashy (12:18 AM): and then the Weeping Angels send him back to 1973
Slashy (12:18 AM): and the Rani decides to fuck with his head
Slashy (12:18 AM): because she is a twat
Rachel T (12:18 AM): of course
Slashy (12:18 AM): but she'd have gotten caught early series 1 unless she was somehow hidden from the Doctor
Rachel T (12:19 AM): huh.
Slashy (12:19 AM): and it's CLEARLY not Archangel hiding her back in 1973
Rachel T (12:19 AM): clearly.
Rachel T (12:20 AM): The clown is some kind of psychic cloaking...thing?
Slashy (12:21 AM): . . .it feeds on fear in SJA, the clown does. it was the original pied piper, a shapeshifter that feeds off psychic energy.
Slashy (12:21 AM): thank you
Rachel T (12:21 AM): ^^
Slashy (12:21 AM): *snog*
Rachel T (12:21 AM): *is snogged*
Slashy (12:22 AM): okay, so now my next problem is the series 2 finale
Rachel T (12:22 AM): mmkay.
Slashy (12:22 AM): because someone Sam Tyler ends up back in 2007, and meanwhile his body was in a coma
Slashy (12:22 AM): and then he jumps off a building and lands back in 1974
Slashy (12:22 AM): what the fuck do I do with this?
Slashy (12:22 AM): *someHOW
Slashy (12:23 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:23 AM): I love how fucking ridiculous those 'other person is typing' messages get.
Rachel T (12:23 AM): I noticed.
Rachel T (12:23 AM): The Doctor cottoned on, realised he was happy in 1974, and healed him up with nanites, then sent him back in time?
Slashy (12:24 AM): see, I'll buy that the Doctor healed him and left him in 1974 to live out the rest of his life
Slashy (12:24 AM): but what about his BODY IN A COMA for two years?
Rachel T (12:25 AM): uh...
Slashy (12:25 AM): yeah, that's where I'm stuck now
Rachel T (12:26 AM): posted
Slashy (12:26 AM): because I can bend canon enough to say that some Weeping Angels send you forward in time instead of backwards, because if all they do is feed off the potential energy of the life you would have lived, it doesn't matter which WAY them temorally displace you
Slashy (12:26 AM): I can get him back to 2007 just fine
Rachel T (12:26 AM): Yeah.
Slashy (12:26 AM): it's the, his body was there in a coma for two years thing
Rachel T (12:26 AM): the Rani mindfucking everyone? somehow.
Slashy (12:27 AM): how?
Rachel T (12:27 AM): I don't know.
Rachel T (12:27 AM): magic technology.
Slashy (12:28 AM): . . .okay, i get that RUSTY doesn't care, but I fucking do
Slashy (12:28 AM): so it has to MAKE FUCKING SENSE
Rachel T (12:28 AM): hmmm....
Slashy (12:30 AM): see, archangel wasn't running in 2006
Slashy (12:31 AM): if it was, then instead of using nanites to heal him, the Doctor could have turned him back
Rachel T (12:31 AM): It was in 07, right?
Rachel T (12:31 AM): it would've been.
Rachel T (12:31 AM): well, it depends, actually.
Rachel T (12:31 AM): se3 was 08, wasn't it?
Slashy (12:31 AM): and he could have been in a healing coma, with archangel keeping the hospital hypnotized not to notice his second heart
Slashy (12:32 AM): um. . .yeah. Martha was '08
Rachel T (12:32 AM): if it was in early 08, then a year and a half previously could've been 06.
Rachel T (12:32 AM): Do we get a date for the first ep of LoM?
Slashy (12:32 AM): I can check
Slashy (12:33 AM): if archangel was running, it could, theoretically, hypnotically hide the Master's second heart.
Rachel T (12:33 AM): Yeah.
Slashy (12:33 AM): it would be LONG healing coma, but considering the lack of other Time Lords and Zero Rooms, I could understand it
Rachel T (12:33 AM): Mm.
Slashy (12:36 AM): we don't have a canon date for LoM, but the first episode aired on 9 January.
Rachel T (12:36 AM): That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Rachel T (12:36 AM): Just that it started in January.
Slashy (12:37 AM): i know
Slashy (12:37 AM): i'm looking for dates in the trivia
Slashy (12:38 AM): posted
Rachel T (12:39 AM): Oh dear. We've entered speaking bits.
Rachel T (12:39 AM): posted
Slashy (12:40 AM): episode 3 was march 16th in 1973. trying to figure out how time there corresponds subjectively to time in 2006
Rachel T (12:41 AM): does it need to?
Slashy (12:41 AM): it would be helpful if it did, because then I'd have fucking DATES
Rachel T (12:41 AM): could just be some randomass date.
Slashy (12:42 AM): March 16th is the date same gives into the interview tape. if it's the same date in 2006, I will at least know when I am.
Rachel T (12:42 AM): true.
Rachel T (12:43 AM): but that knocks out the 'in a healing coma' thing.
Slashy (12:43 AM): i know
Slashy (12:43 AM): that's why i'm still looking for dates in the other episodes
Slashy (12:44 AM): hopefully ones that prove that time passes at subjectively the same RATE, while allowing 2006 to be several months ahead
Slashy (12:44 AM): because that would be nice
Rachel T (12:44 AM): that'd be lovely
Rachel T (12:45 AM): INT. SAM’S APARTMENT - LIVING ROOM - DAY 1/1 07:08
Rachel T (12:45 AM): that's what's in the script.
Slashy (12:45 AM): where'd you find the script?
Rachel T (12:46 AM): Honest to god, I can't remember.
Rachel T (12:46 AM): I've had it for ages
Slashy (12:46 AM): *did not fucking squeak upon reading the word script, dammit*
Rachel T (12:46 AM): I can email it to you, if you'd like
Slashy (12:46 AM): sure
Rachel T (12:47 AM): sent
Slashy (12:48 AM): episode 5 is meant to be April. . .if time is really going that slowly per series. . .
Rachel T (12:48 AM): I am now reminded of how fucking awesome Boston Legal is.
Slashy (12:49 AM): because?
Rachel T (12:49 AM): dm.senixee.net/youareapirate.swf
Rachel T (12:49 AM): not htat
Rachel T (12:49 AM): *that
Rachel T (12:49 AM): the ending.
Rachel T (12:50 AM): James Spader and William Shatner get married.
Slashy (12:50 AM): . . .i feel as if I should have something to say here
Slashy (12:50 AM): but I don't
Rachel T (12:51 AM): sorry.
Rachel T (12:51 AM): ugh.
Slashy (12:52 AM): "Sam sees the chance to prevent a murder when he comes across the
younger version of a villain he will arrest in the future. But he
worries that, back in 2006, Tony Crane might be released from remand
and exact revenge on Sam's comatose body."
Slashy (12:52 AM): that is a very unfortunately worded summary
Rachel T (12:52 AM): ...yes.
Rachel T (12:52 AM): Is your rape sense tingling as well?
Slashy (12:52 AM): yes
Slashy (12:52 AM): yes it is
Slashy (12:53 AM): hmm, series 2 is also taking place in 2006
Slashy (12:53 AM): this is not looking good
Slashy (12:55 AM): posted
Rachel T (1:00 AM): posted
Slashy (1:03 AM): "It is revealed in the final episode that Sam's coma had lasted so long because he had a tumour of the brain."
Rachel T (1:03 AM): ...
Slashy (1:04 AM): okay, so I'm reworking my plot
Slashy (1:04 AM): the Rani, while fucking with his head, gave him a tumour
Slashy (1:04 AM): he collapses after leaving the team in that scene at the end of S2E8
Rachel T (1:04 AM): really, though, why the fuck not?
Slashy (1:05 AM): at this point, the Doctor has finally tracked the Master down, the proper way, not the 'let the Angel touch me too' way, because that would be thick
Rachel T (1:05 AM): yes
Slashy (1:06 AM): he find the Rani, and the dying Master, and brings them both back to 2006
Slashy (1:07 AM): where he leaves the Master, still as a human, in the hospital while he deals with the Rani
Slashy (1:07 AM): gets back from that just in time for Sam to jump off the roof
Slashy (1:08 AM): nanites, seven years back in the seventies, at the end of which the Doctor him back his fob watch
Slashy (1:08 AM): yes?
Slashy (1:08 AM): is sense making?
Rachel T (1:09 AM): yes
Slashy (1:11 AM): aside from the WORD that is completely missing from that last sentence. Wow. Oops.
Rachel T (1:11 AM): Y'know I totally didn't even notice
Slashy (1:12 AM): okay, so that covers the canon
Slashy (1:12 AM): now I need to figure out what he's done with the Rani
Rachel T (1:13 AM): He's decided to keep her?
Slashy (1:13 AM): if he was going to keep her he wouldn't have taken her somewhere else to deal with her
Slashy (1:13 AM): and he needs to, because Sam needs to wake up and live in the "present" for a while before deciding to jump off that roof
Slashy (1:14 AM): and the Doctor clearly can't be around for that
Rachel T (1:14 AM): hmm.
Rachel T (1:14 AM): He takes her to see where Gallifrey once was to get her to quit being such a royal bitch?
Slashy (1:15 AM): . . .no
Slashy (1:15 AM): i want him to trap her in the mirror with the girl with the red balloon
Rachel T (1:15 AM): oookay
Slashy (1:15 AM): even though I KNOW that that's a spectacularly BAD idea
Slashy (1:16 AM): because then the girl with the red balloon can get the Rani's Time Lady body
Rachel T (1:16 AM): That does sound rather bad
Slashy (1:16 AM): . . .or they can make a deal
Slashy (1:17 AM): the Rani promises the girl with the red balloon the Master's Time Lord essense
Slashy (1:17 AM): so they work together to get out of the mirror (the Rani is clever enough) and they go to steal the fob watch
Slashy (1:18 AM): this being sometime during Sam Tyler's seven years in the 70's
Rachel T (1:18 AM): ooo
Rachel T (1:18 AM): fun
Slashy (1:19 AM): so they have to be able to track the Doctor's Tardis somehow
Rachel T (1:19 AM): posted and now have the bloody soup crimp stuck in my head.
Slashy (1:19 AM): I assume the Doctor took the Family of Blood's Vortex Manipulator, or else it blew up with the rest of the ship
Rachel T (1:20 AM): I find this very likely
Slashy (1:20 AM): so they don't have this
Slashy (1:20 AM): they either need the Rani's Tardis, which I imagine can track the Doctor's Tardis
Rachel T (1:20 AM): I just have this picture of them in my head, sneaking up behind Jack and mugging him.
Slashy (1:20 AM): or that
Rachel T (1:21 AM): But how would he get it back?
Slashy (1:21 AM): the Doctor would give it back
Slashy (1:21 AM): after he defeated the Rani
Slashy (1:21 AM): because it's still Jack's property
Rachel T (1:21 AM): hmm. and poor Jack is like... how much longer do I have to wait? srsly, thirty years?
Rachel T (1:22 AM): But he'd give it back just as broken as it was originally.
Slashy (1:22 AM): i wonder when they'd get out of the mirror
Slashy (1:22 AM): it doesn't have to be in the 70's for them
Slashy (1:22 AM): they could just as easily be up in 2006
Rachel T (1:23 AM): huh.
Slashy (1:23 AM): where the Master's unconcious body is. . .
Rachel T (1:23 AM): my rape sense is tingling again
Slashy (1:23 AM): they are physically about 10 and 13!
Slashy (1:23 AM): but they could probably hold it for ransom
Rachel T (1:23 AM): That does not stop my rape sense from tingling.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): at all.
Slashy (1:24 AM): *giggle*
Slashy (1:24 AM): okay, they are not going to rape him
Rachel T (1:24 AM): *sticks tongue out most petulantly*
Rachel T (1:24 AM): I figured.
Slashy (1:24 AM): if they were going to rape him, then instead of mugging Jack they would seduce him
Rachel T (1:24 AM): xd
Slashy (1:24 AM): and they are physically only 10 and 13
Slashy (1:24 AM): again
Rachel T (1:24 AM): Slashy subtext is typing something utterly brilliant.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): wow.
Rachel T (1:24 AM): I love yahoo
Rachel T (1:25 AM): those are funny
Slashy (1:25 AM): so, do they arrive in the 70's, or sometime in the present day
Slashy (1:25 AM): . . .how terrifying is it that I want them to arrive during Harry Saxon's rise to power
Slashy (1:26 AM): so that they can get him to help them
Rachel T (1:26 AM): that would be fucking awesome.
Slashy (1:26 AM): by pretending to be Sam's identical twin, separated at birth
Slashy (1:26 AM): if they timed it right, of course
Slashy (1:27 AM): because Saxon would only just be arriving a few months before Sam wakes up
Rachel T (1:27 AM): right
Slashy (1:27 AM): so they get Saxon on their side, I'll work out how in a minute because somehow I doubt the truth would go over well
Slashy (1:28 AM): and he helps them get Sam's body out of the hospital
Slashy (1:28 AM): so they can hold it ransom
Rachel T (1:28 AM): right
Slashy (1:28 AM): okay, then there's the year that never was
Slashy (1:29 AM): i can ignore it, or I can get them on the Valiant
Rachel T (1:29 AM): perhaps the Doctor defeats them before? And 11 can obviously know better than to cross his timelines.
Slashy (1:29 AM): I want them in the year that never was
Slashy (1:29 AM): because I want Ten
Rachel T (1:30 AM): ah
Slashy (1:30 AM): or around the year that never was, anyway
Slashy (1:30 AM): i'm not sure i want to actually give them that whole year
Rachel T (1:31 AM): do we know who won the epic battle between John and NPH?
Slashy (1:31 AM): NPH won
Rachel T (1:31 AM): damn
Slashy (1:31 AM): can't you just check AE like everybody else?
Rachel T (1:31 AM): I am far too lazy for that
Rachel T (1:32 AM): who the hell do you think you're talking to, someone with any form of *drive*?
Slashy (1:32 AM): obviously not
Slashy (1:32 AM): the girl with the red balloon isn't going to last a whole year
Rachel T (1:32 AM): no
Slashy (1:32 AM): so she needs another body
Slashy (1:33 AM): is it wrong that I sort of want to give her Lucy?
Rachel T (1:33 AM): ...Is it bad that I want it to be one of the TW crew captured by the Master to torture Jack?
Slashy (1:34 AM): of course, it can't be either of those, because it needs to be someone who is on the Valiant, survives, and most importantly, disappears afterwards
Rachel T (1:34 AM): some poor random soldier.
Slashy (1:35 AM): . . .is it wrong that I hope the Master kidnapped Annalise as well? Because I want to give her Annalise.
Rachel T (1:36 AM): You should do it.
Slashy (1:36 AM): okay, Saxon, when he got Martha's family, also got Annalise
Slashy (1:36 AM): but he didn't make her work, near the Doctor, because the Doctor doesn't care about her
Slashy (1:36 AM): that's why we never saw her
Rachel T (1:36 AM): right
Slashy (1:37 AM): so the Rani gives Sister-of-Mine Annalise for her new body, that should last her through the year that never was
Rachel T (1:37 AM): right
Slashy (1:38 AM): so now we have to deal with, where are they hiding Sam Tyler's body on the Valiant?
Slashy (1:38 AM): also, obviously, the Rani and Sister-of-Mine do not tell Saxon about how spectacularly he is about to fail
Rachel T (1:39 AM): oh clearly
Slashy (1:39 AM): though they might be a bit smirky about it
Rachel T (1:39 AM): oh of course
Slashy (1:39 AM): okay, before I try to find Sam's body. Does Saxon know about Annalise/Sister-of-Mine?
Slashy (1:40 AM): or, rather, did he know before they did it
Slashy (1:40 AM): because obviously he'll figure it out if he didn't
Slashy (1:40 AM): he's not DUMB
Rachel T (1:40 AM): I'm thinking sure, why not
Slashy (1:40 AM): okay, so, Sam's body
Slashy (1:41 AM): it has to be hidden somewhere Ten will never see it
Slashy (1:41 AM): but where the Rani and Sister-of-Mine can keep an eye on it
Rachel T (1:41 AM): doesn't the master find it odd that he looks exactly like him?
Slashy (1:41 AM): . . .thinking.
Slashy (1:42 AM): okay, that's how they get him to work with them
Rachel T (1:42 AM): ?
Slashy (1:42 AM): they tell him he wins
Slashy (1:42 AM): but the Doctor poisoned him
Rachel T (1:42 AM): ahh
Slashy (1:42 AM): and they're trying to cure him
Slashy (1:42 AM): so clearly they're on his side
Rachel T (1:42 AM): he doesn't find that suspicious? That the Doctor poisoned him?
Slashy (1:43 AM): i didn't say he trusted them completely
Slashy (1:43 AM): but it's not outside the realm of possibility that the Doctor would poison him
Slashy (1:43 AM): if it was something non-lethal
Rachel T (1:43 AM): true.
Rachel T (1:43 AM): just made him comatose until he could figure out what to do with him.
Slashy (1:44 AM): mm, or. . .
Slashy (1:44 AM): i'm thinking
Slashy (1:44 AM): wait
Slashy (1:44 AM): or to try to take the drums away, to make him "well"
Slashy (1:44 AM): which is clearly not something the Master wants
Rachel T (1:44 AM): mm
Slashy (1:45 AM): okay, not that that's settled
Slashy (1:45 AM): I really need to find a place to hide Sam Tyler's comatose body, please
Rachel T (1:45 AM): In the very bowels of the ship
Slashy (1:45 AM): someplace with medical supplies and such
Slashy (1:45 AM): he is on life-support
Rachel T (1:46 AM): the infirmary?
Rachel T (1:46 AM): wouldn't there be one?
Slashy (1:46 AM): maybe
Slashy (1:46 AM): does it deadbolt shut? just in case?
Rachel T (1:46 AM): sure
Slashy (1:46 AM): okay. it's a good place for the to hole up once the end is near
Rachel T (1:47 AM): aye
Slashy (1:47 AM): they still have the Vortex Manipulator they stole from Jack, because they haven't been defeated by Eleven yet
Slashy (1:47 AM): Saxon does not know they have this
Rachel T (1:47 AM): right
Rachel T (1:47 AM): no.
Slashy (1:47 AM): because otherwise he would have taken it away and used it
Rachel T (1:48 AM): yes
Slashy (1:48 AM): so after the paradox machine is down
Slashy (1:48 AM): they go back down to Earth, because they don't want to get caught in the middle of the UNIT ship
Rachel T (1:48 AM): right
Slashy (1:48 AM): not by UNIT and certainly not by Ten
Slashy (1:48 AM): although THAT would make a good story
Slashy (1:49 AM): of course, actual canon standing in the way, I cannot allow Ten to find Sam Tyler, not even afterwards
Rachel T (1:49 AM): right
Slashy (1:50 AM): unless they wiped his memory after
Slashy (1:50 AM): which gets messy and complicated, and with all the time travel it's messy and complicated enough, right?
Rachel T (1:50 AM): aye
Slashy (1:51 AM): okay, so they go back down to the Earth
Slashy (1:51 AM): now they have to find Eleven
Slashy (1:51 AM): so either they track his Tardis, or they hang around until after tEoT
Slashy (1:52 AM): I vote they track his Tardis
Rachel T (1:52 AM): aye
Rachel T (1:52 AM): sounds good
Slashy (1:54 AM): so they track his Tardis. . .but they're early
Slashy (1:55 AM): they end up in that hole in Cardiff, where the Tardis crashes immediately after tEoT
Slashy (1:55 AM): Eleven doesn't even know the Master survived yet
Slashy (1:55 AM): well, he does after they show up, obviously
Rachel T (1:55 AM): clearly
Slashy (1:56 AM): before he can figure out some clever way to defeat them, they vanish again
Rachel T (1:57 AM): "Slashy Subtext should really learn to type with more than two fingers..." yahoo doesn't like you.
Slashy (1:57 AM): by now they've drawn the attention of Gwen's Torchwood
Slashy (1:58 AM): query: when the Tardis crashed, did it crash through time as well as space? did he land in that gaping whole before or after Jack left the planet?
Rachel T (1:58 AM): after, I think.
Rachel T (1:58 AM): I figured it was just through space.
Slashy (1:59 AM): okay. so Gwen should have her Torchwood properly functional at this point
Rachel T (1:59 AM): and that tEoT was well after CoE
Slashy (1:59 AM): yes? proper, function Torchwood Gwen?
Rachel T (1:59 AM): Yes
Rachel T (1:59 AM): properly functioning TW Gwen
Rachel T (1:59 AM): because Jack isn't there to distract her from being cool.
Slashy (1:59 AM): okay
Slashy (2:00 AM): so, now we have Eleven and TW Gwen in. . .2011?
Rachel T (2:00 AM): probably
Slashy (2:00 AM): and the Rani and Sister-of-Mine tracking a later version of Eleven, sometime in the seventies
Rachel T (2:01 AM): yup
Slashy (2:01 AM): young!Eleven and TW Gwen first, then
Rachel T (2:01 AM): yus
Slashy (2:01 AM): there must be some angst over CoE, because There Must Be
Rachel T (2:02 AM): lots from Gwen.
Rachel T (2:02 AM): Because she, y'know, has lost ALMOST EVERYONE SHE CARES ABOUT within the last few months.
Slashy (2:02 AM): mm
Slashy (2:02 AM): what is TW Gwen's policy on the Doctor, do you think?
Rachel T (2:02 AM): I'm Pissed Off at him, but he has saved the world several times.
Rachel T (2:03 AM): not kill on sight, but definitely Proceed With Caution
Rachel T (2:03 AM): and ask him WHERE THE FUCK HE WAS during the 456 debacle
Slashy (2:03 AM): it was a fixed point and he'd already HAD that mental breakdown once
Rachel T (2:04 AM): yeah
Rachel T (2:04 AM): but Gwen doesn't know that.
Slashy (2:04 AM): then he'll tell her
Slashy (2:04 AM): i figure Eleven has to be good at SOMETHING
Slashy (2:04 AM): Does TW Gwen help repair the crashed Tardis?
Rachel T (2:04 AM): Sure. She can try, at least.
Rachel T (2:05 AM): ...is it bad that I now want COE Gwen to be 11's companion for a bit, now?
Slashy (2:05 AM): i can do that
Rachel T (2:05 AM): :glomp:
Slashy (2:05 AM): would Eleven ask for her help finding the Master, now that he knows he's alive? or would he be mister 'i'll find him on my own because I don't trust TW'?
Rachel T (2:06 AM): Well, she is a result of Jack's Torchwood, and she did help during that Earth-moving thing.
Rachel T (2:06 AM): So he might let her help
Slashy (2:07 AM): . . .turning him human when they find him is TW Gwen's condition for providing him with help
Slashy (2:07 AM): I needed a reason the Doctor would do such a thing
Rachel T (2:07 AM): right.
Slashy (2:07 AM): when he would clearly rather leave the Master an adult Time Lord and repopulate his species
Slashy (2:07 AM): ^_^
Rachel T (2:07 AM): xD
Slashy (2:08 AM): so while they find the Master and make him human and bring us right back around to where we started. . .
Slashy (2:10 AM): the Rani and Sister-of-Mine have tracked later!Eleven down, in 17. . .80. That's the year Sam Tyler dies, in a car chase, a year before DI Alex Drake lands. And I'm not touching A2A yet.
Slashy (2:10 AM): inability to type math correctly
Slashy (2:10 AM): ugh
Rachel T (2:10 AM): I was wondering about that
Slashy (2:10 AM): my fingers do not like typing math on a laptop
Slashy (2:11 AM): the lack of a numpad stops me from functioning properly
Rachel T (2:11 AM): I do hate that.
Slashy (2:11 AM): anyway, it IS the year 1980 when Sam Tyler dies
Rachel T (2:11 AM): That I actually knew.
Rachel T (2:11 AM): *gasp, shock, horror*
Slashy (2:11 AM): so that's when the fob watch is opens
Slashy (2:11 AM): *opened
Rachel T (2:11 AM): Right
Slashy (2:12 AM): which means that the Rani and Sister-of-Mine approach the Eleven with their ransom
Slashy (2:13 AM): now it's not as easy to trip Sister-of-Mine, because the Rani will know if the Master is human or Time Lord due to telepathy
Slashy (2:14 AM): *trick
Slashy (2:14 AM): ugh
Rachel T (2:14 AM): *hug* it's OK.
Rachel T (2:14 AM): It's 1 there, right?
Slashy (2:14 AM): yeah
Slashy (2:15 AM): okay, so, Eleven needs to get the Master's body away from the Rani and Sister-of-Mine, while still keeping hold of the fob watch
Rachel T (2:16 AM): uh huh
Slashy (2:16 AM): and it needs to make sense
Slashy (2:16 AM): and. . .where the fuck is the clown?
Rachel T (2:16 AM): it got left behind and mutated into that horrible thing in Ashes to Ashes?
Slashy (2:17 AM): I don't think it did. Also, it's a shapeshifter, so I don't think it mutated
Rachel T (2:17 AM): *shrug* I have not seen Ashes to Ashes
Slashy (2:17 AM): . . .the clown was hiding the Rani
Rachel T (2:17 AM): right
Slashy (2:17 AM): so if I know why it's working for her, I can turn it against her
Slashy (2:18 AM): why is the clown working with the Rani?
Rachel T (2:18 AM): shiggles?
Slashy (2:18 AM): because while the Rani was mindfucking Sam, it was feeding off his fear
Slashy (2:18 AM): so where did it go when Sam chose to go back?
Slashy (2:19 AM): he wasn't afraid of the Test Card Girl anymore
Rachel T (2:20 AM): perhaps it found someone else's fear to eat.
Slashy (2:20 AM): I need it to still be with the Rani
Slashy (2:20 AM): which means she's keeping it somehow
Slashy (2:21 AM): so if Eleven can free it from her, it might decide it owes him a favour
Slashy (2:22 AM): it could hide the Master from the Rani, so the Doctor could trick Sister-of-Mine just like he did in HN/FoB
Rachel T (2:23 AM): That could work.
Slashy (2:23 AM): but he'd have to free it from the Rani without the Rani noticing
Slashy (2:23 AM): i'll work on that
Slashy (2:24 AM): so now Eleven has do something with the Rani and Sister-of-Mine
Slashy (2:24 AM): obviously that whole mirror thing is not an option
Rachel T (2:24 AM): clearly
Slashy (2:25 AM): now, all he has to do is lock Sister-of-Mine up until she burns out and dies
Slashy (2:25 AM): so he can hand her over to TW Gwen
Rachel T (2:25 AM): Is that a wise idea?
Slashy (2:26 AM): probably not, but it gives me a length of rope later
Slashy (2:26 AM): now, what to do with the Rani?
Rachel T (2:26 AM): kay
Slashy (2:26 AM): I refuse to let Eleven keep her
Slashy (2:26 AM): because the Doctor, the Master, and the 13-year-old Rani is just WAAAAAAAAAY too domestic
Slashy (2:27 AM): thought it might make a good sitcom
Rachel T (2:27 AM): amusing mental image. but go on.
Slashy (2:27 AM): and he can't kill her, because there are still just the three Time Lords left (and Jenny and Donna, but they don't count)
Rachel T (2:28 AM): right
Slashy (2:28 AM): and he can't let her go
Slashy (2:28 AM): for reasons that should be obvious
Slashy (2:29 AM): . . .it's a shame she's blonde
Rachel T (2:29 AM): heh
Slashy (2:29 AM): okay, how do you force a regeneration without killing the Time Lord?
Slashy (2:30 AM): they did it once before, Two to Three wasn't an execution
Slashy (2:30 AM): and the girls are quite capable of regenerating on demand
Rachel T (2:30 AM): Sorry, that just reminds me of the Doctor's explanation of regeneration to Wilf
Rachel T (2:30 AM): Also, lol
Slashy (2:30 AM): heh
Slashy (2:30 AM): so she'd try to escape
Slashy (2:31 AM): by regenerating so the Doctor didn't recognize her
Slashy (2:31 AM): which would only work if they were inside Archangel again
Slashy (2:32 AM): so, why would they be in Archangel again?
Rachel T (2:32 AM): Were the satellites ever taken down?
Rachel T (2:32 AM): If so, how soon after?
Slashy (2:32 AM): yeah, but I don't know how soon after
Slashy (2:32 AM): I know they took them down, or otherwise deactivated them
Rachel T (2:32 AM): it takes a longass time to take down satellites.
Slashy (2:33 AM): but that's okay, because they have a legitimate reason to be within Archangel again
Slashy (2:33 AM): they have to put Sam Tyler's comatose body back
Rachel T (2:33 AM): right
Rachel T (2:33 AM): yup
Slashy (2:34 AM): so the Doctor puts Sam's body back while the Master who probably can't be trusted, and the Rani who definitely can't be trusted are alone in the Tardis. . .
Slashy (2:34 AM): no
Slashy (2:35 AM): he has to bring them with him
Slashy (2:36 AM): and the Rani tries to escape by regenerating and making a break for it
Slashy (2:36 AM): and the Master catches her, because Archangel was his
Slashy (2:36 AM): that seems out of character. . .
Slashy (2:37 AM): . . .he's very ticked at her for fucking with his head for a year, then holding him ransom
Rachel T (2:37 AM): oh yes
Slashy (2:37 AM): okay, that makes sense
Slashy (2:37 AM): so now she's got dark hair
Slashy (2:37 AM): and we can do the same thing to her that we did to the Master
Rachel T (2:37 AM): she should be ginger, just to make the doctor jealous.
Slashy (2:37 AM): she can't be ginger
Rachel T (2:38 AM): pourquoi?
Slashy (2:38 AM): she's going to be Alex Drake
Rachel T (2:38 AM): aaahhh
Slashy (2:38 AM): laser screwdriver, chameleon circuit. . .
Slashy (2:39 AM): and then she gets touched by a Weeping Angel
Slashy (2:39 AM): I have a theory that the Weeping Angels prefer Time Lords to humans and can therefore sense them
Rachel T (2:40 AM): neat
Slashy (2:40 AM): well, if you lived off potential energy, would you rather have 80 year average or 8000? you'd adapt to tell which was which
Rachel T (2:40 AM): "You now prossess Dracula's rib."
Slashy (2:41 AM): we don't know how A2A ends yet. there's still one more season
Slashy (2:41 AM): but we do know that that clown is well and truly pissed at the Rani
Rachel T (2:41 AM): right. well. abducting it would probably do that
Slashy (2:42 AM): okay. . .when the Doctor made the Master into Sam Tyler, he left him with Rose's family because he trusted them and didn't feel the need to stalk them to make sure they were protecting him
Slashy (2:43 AM): we don't know the Drake's
Slashy (2:43 AM): which means the Doctor must have someone watching the Rani
Slashy (2:45 AM): we know both her parents died when she was very young
Slashy (2:45 AM): which means it must be Evan
Slashy (2:46 AM): so now I have to figure out how Eleven knows Evan
Slashy (2:49 AM): this is usually the part where you say something helpful and contribute to the conversation
Rachel T (2:50 AM): I have no idea who the fuck Evan is.
Rachel T (2:50 AM): I don't know who the Drakes are. I assume the lady in Ashes to Ashes?
Slashy (2:51 AM): Evan is Alex's godfather
Slashy (2:51 AM): which is why I think it must be him the Doctor has watching out for her
Rachel T (2:51 AM): ah
Slashy (2:52 AM): but I need to know why Eleven KNOWS him
Rachel T (2:52 AM): uh... wasn't the doctor stuck in the seventies for a while?
Slashy (2:53 AM): with UNIT, working as a consultant
Rachel T (2:53 AM): He must've wandered about a lot
Rachel T (2:53 AM): They could've met, right?
Rachel T (2:54 AM): Maybe Evan helped him out or something.
Slashy (2:55 AM): Evan is a lawyer of some sort, I think.
Slashy (2:55 AM): it's not unreasonable to assume they would have met
Rachel T (2:55 AM): Terrified lawyer running.
Rachel T (2:55 AM): All I can picture is Denny running down a very long hallway.
Slashy (2:56 AM): also, if he IS the one the Doctor has watching Alex. . .he fucked that up SPECTACULARLY
Slashy (2:56 AM): he SLEPT with her MOTHER. her father found out and TRIED TO KILL THEM ALL.
Rachel T (2:57 AM): ...
Slashy (2:58 AM): yeah
Slashy (2:59 AM): so I'm thinking no on him supposed to be watching her
Rachel T (2:59 AM): mm
Slashy (2:59 AM): which means there is someone lurking around, protecting her while she grows up and I don't know who it is yet
Slashy (3:00 AM): meanwhile, Eleven and the Master. . .