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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Dec 3, 2010 2:31:26 GMT -5
Tate: so I was watching FF with dad today, and... the timeline has to end 16 Dec 2016. That's when Dyson Frost's timeline said The End was Cece: but Natalie travels back from '22. I did the math. Tate: yeah, and our guys who've seen time travel have been to other futures too. doesn't mean it has to happen Tate: see, what if sealing the rip the Evil Angels made makes the universe cease to exist. Tate: so in '16 the Unit gets the last of the Objects and puts it in the room. then the Key and the Occupant have to both be in the room and the door gets shut. that should seal the rip, ne? Cece: sense making Tate: Joe can only be killed inside the room, then his Occupancy switches to the person who killed him Tate: Joe and Jenny go into the Room. Jenny kills Joe, waits for the Occupancy to switch to her, then puts Joe outside the room so EMTs can save his life. so she thinks. Tate: she locks the Room and the rip is fixed. when she opens the door she's in another universe entirely, the gateverse has ceased completely to exist. Tate: also, the Room can now be turned into a Tardis. all those extra dimensions. Cece: so everyone in the gateverse must reach an endpoint right before that, and anyone she wants to continue writing for needs to skip bases Tate: yups Tate: all of which She can work out once She gets to 16. She hasn't even gotten to 12 properly yet. Cece: oh, before I forget. River didn't really have an endpoin on the timeline, but we all know her endpoint is that Singing Towers thing. Cece: but the Doctor's endpoint was way before that Cece: so it's a story in it's own right, with a future version of the Doctor Cece: Fourteen Cece: who will need an actor Tate: one who isn't on the crossoververse three times Tate: all the things that happen in the universe don't need chronicling. Is there any reason to continue following Eureka? can't we just drop it for a while? Tate: we have the Unit, and it's there mostly to give Cassie a place to sit until the living screen critters force her to Atlantis, and because of Zoe who isn't even there Tate: so can't we have, say, one of the New Time Agents show up to pick up Helena, then just drop it until we need it? Tate: most of the charries we like are on associated with the Unit anyway Cece: this is true Cece: sure, just drop it until we need it - Tate: I'm looking at the timeline thinking about how She put B&S on the gateverse base, and how to incorporate that into stories Tate: and I think, after we show Jack and his recruits fixing the accident, we just leave it for a year Tate: that way Justin and Rebecca will have worked out their issues and done their "separate" things. so pick it up in April 2011 Cece: makes sense Tate: now, *I* think Landry should be promoted to HS then, and put Robert in charge of the SGC Tate: then Carter can get the job from him when he becomes VP Cece: I like it Cece: how many SG-1 stories do we need before that? Tate: October 2010 through February 2011 Cece: okay, now, we there's always that "accidental amputation" thing Tate: this is true Tate: so who should get accidentally amputated? Cece: er... who's on SG-1 in October 2010? Tate: Mitchell, Vala, Stark, Jonas, Aly, and Hailey Tate: I think it should be Hailey Tate: oh, I've been thinking about that actor thing, for Fourteen. Tate: okay, you remember how we made the Master regenerate into the dad from Beautiful People? Tate: so, no, swap that actor over to Fourteen Tate: you know the guy who played Ivan on Being Human and that REALLY creepy satanist in Luther? that should be who the Master regenerates into. Cece: yes Cece: I'm doing a bit of cleanup on the At A Glance lists Cece: now, everything that Jennifer and the Legion had, they'd turn over, right? After the formation of the Unit? Tate: makes sense Cece: and they got everything out of Kreutzfeld's home? Tate: of course Cece: now, what does the Magazine do? It's marked as found, but... Tate: er, they picked it up at the same time they picked up the Trinket in Eureka. no mention is made of what it does Cece: and the Wall Painting? Tate: also no mention Cece: we don't HAVE to know. I just wanted to make sure it hadn't been mentioned and neglected Cece: okay, what stuff does Claudia find in the Warehouse and turn over? I know we mentioned that she gave them a box of something. Tate: we never decided. wanna do that now? Cece: let's start with ALL THE COINS Tate: both of the socks, and ... Cece: the second cufflink Tate: are there enough Objects left to sustain one a month until December 2016? Cece: 73 Cece: we only have about 43 Objects stories Cece: this could be a problem Tate: we'll have to just start skipping months Tate: or give them other things to deal with Tate: you know, have other people from other groups ask them for help Cece: that makes sense Cece: but how about we just DON'T have a story there in November? ~ Slashy (1:05 AM): I need SG-1 stories. Slashy (1:05 AM): like, five of them Tessa-san (1:06 AM): jesus, who's on SG-1 at this point? Slashy (1:06 AM): at the point where I need to stories. it is Mitchell, Vala, Stark, Jonas, Aly, and Hailey Slashy (1:07 AM): I only know this because Tatey-chan looked it up when she and Cece tackled this lack of stories earlier. Slashy (1:08 AM): oh, and Hailey lost her hand. In the amputation story. Tessa-san (1:09 AM): does she get a robot hand? Slashy (1:09 AM): do we HAVE robot hands? Tessa-san (1:09 AM): I don't know. One of the stories can be about her getting one, though Tessa-san (1:09 AM): SOMEONE has robot hands Slashy (1:09 AM): okay. let's make that January then. That'll give us two stories where she doesn't have a hand. Tessa-san (1:10 AM): why is she allowed to go offworld missing a hand? Tessa-san (1:10 AM): that seems like it would be extremely detrimental Tessa-san (1:10 AM): and also something that can get someone medically discharged from the military. Slashy (1:10 AM): who said she was going offworld? nono, she can sit in the SGC and be very bitchy about NOT being allowed to go offworld. Slashy (1:11 AM): well, the Tok'ra would have robotic hands. They'd be able to fix her. If they could FIND them. Slashy (1:11 AM): but the Tok'ra, well, the Tok'ra have moved. without telling anyone. Tessa-san (1:11 AM): so Tessa-san (1:11 AM): the first two are following-leads-on-the-tok'ra stories. Slashy (1:11 AM): so she's sitting in the SGC waiting for them to contact the Tok'ra... or she's visiting her girlfriend. Who is a doctor. That would make more sense. Slashy (1:12 AM): yupperdos. alas, no Tok'ra on either of those worlds, tho. What should we find instead? Tessa-san (1:13 AM): horrifiying cannibalistic bastardizations of human existence on the first Slashy (1:13 AM): ...are these the results of something Nirti did once? Tessa-san (1:13 AM): ooh Tessa-san (1:13 AM): Brilliant. Tessa-san (1:13 AM): They need to try to eat Jonas. Slashy (1:13 AM): ...okay Slashy (1:13 AM): so on the second world Slashy (1:14 AM): (obvs we escape the cannibals and they all die) Tessa-san (1:14 AM): a World Of Horrible, Dischordant Music Tessa-san (1:14 AM): Which is how the inhabitants communicate. Slashy (1:14 AM): what sort of horrible thing goes wrong there? Tessa-san (1:15 AM): Somebody has an iPod Tessa-san (1:15 AM): and that's how Linkin Park almost gets us killed. Slashy (1:15 AM): who? Tessa-san (1:15 AM): I dunno, Vala or Aly, probably. Slashy (1:15 AM): right. and we escape them. then in the third story we actually find the Tok'ra. Slashy (1:15 AM): or, rather, the find us, I imagine Tessa-san (1:16 AM): yes Tessa-san (1:16 AM): they've sent a distress signal Tessa-san (1:16 AM): because Tessa-san (1:17 AM): Lucian alliance is attacking them Slashy (1:18 AM): aw, Lucians. I hate them. So much. And yet, at the same time, the Lucians mean I could write Ginn. Who I loved. She would totally be mutinous and help our guys. Slashy (1:19 AM): and then she could either join the Tok'ra -whose Queen should be spawning by now, ne?- or go back to Earth with us. Slashy (1:19 AM): Tok'ra's new Queen. Should be spawning? Y/N Tessa-san (1:20 AM): Y Slashy (1:20 AM): good. so I could... ah. I could give Ginn a Tok'ra. And then her Tok'ra could give Hailey the robotic hand. And go back to the SGC with them to be a permanent fixture in the base. Tessa-san (1:21 AM): that works Slashy (1:21 AM): and then a while later, she can be killed while Remy is visiting to go get her own Tok'ra, so that's where Lyra comes from. And I get to write for Lyra earlier than expected. And that makes Remy/Lyra joining SG-1 a little bit more plausible. Slashy (1:22 AM): and could lead to infidelity, which would be fun Slashy (1:24 AM): see, if while Ginn/Lyra is on the base, that's when Hailey starts her relationship with Lyra, because it makes sense that that could happen since I KNOW they'll be in love when Lyra is with Remy, then why Lyra migrates TO Remy... Slashy (1:24 AM): Remy gets all of Lyra's memories of Hailey's infidelity Slashy (1:24 AM): I'm terrible. Tessa-san (1:24 AM): ... Tessa-san (1:24 AM): wow Tessa-san (1:24 AM): that's AWESOME Slashy (1:26 AM): so then I could have the GinnLyra/Hailey start in February, that would fill us in through March 2010 Tessa-san (1:26 AM): that works Slashy (1:26 AM): well, I'd need an actual PLOT STORY to go with that GinnLyra/Hailey Slashy (1:26 AM): yeah, that's important Slashy (1:27 AM): ...I also need an actual plot story for the amputation. Slashy (1:27 AM): whoops Slashy (1:27 AM): at least one of these should be on the dryad arc, I think Tessa-san (1:28 AM): oh, bugger.
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Dec 11, 2010 17:42:38 GMT -5
Tate: ...speaking of Tesla. you didn't do NEAR enough with him on the crossoververse Moment: I know. I sort of want to have Jamie leave him in the gateverse and have someone else bring him home later Tate: ooh Tate: whatcha gonna do with him on that base? Moment: well, he's always had plans for world domination Moment: just because he's OFTEN on our side doesn't mean he's not... er, evil Moment: well, at least "not-good" Tate: but he's on Atlantis Moment: see, he's physically identical to Dr. Parrish. and since when he's visiting with Jamie he's not being a bad guy, he'd not have ended up in the cells or anything. he'd be, well, maybe under room arrest, but nothing more than that Moment: and he did sleep with Parrish once, so if that were, rather than a one-time narcissistic thing, a regular thing, all he'd have to do was wait until Parrish was going offworld, drug him in his sleep, and walk out of the room in his clothes Moment: get to Earth and by the time anyone realizes what's happened, he's gone Tate: YES Moment: so...Jamie and Tesla arrived in April 2010 Moment: if I make Tesla's escape it's own story...that's silly. because Evan's group are going to Earth for their IOA thing in May. so it could be a subset of that story Tate: then you can leave him for a while, let him get situated and familiar with the world. he's one of those charries who are more fun if he pops up after having been absent for a while. Moment: next place I'll need a story for the Unit? Tate: ...January 2011 Moment: that works Moment: he'd totally be working with that Cabal group. Ruber's guys. Tate: yes Tate: he's completely amused by Ruber's hallucinations but is playing along because the Objects are extremely powerful Moment: of course Moment: and the first chance he gets to doublecross them, he will take Tate: so I guess that story for the Unit is a Cabal story? Moment: looks like it Moment: whatever Object the Unit are after, the Cabal get there first. the Unit does not let this go. Moment: there are no hot uninvolved guys on the Unit. ~frowns~ Tate: this is true, but how is it a problem? Tate: you had Neal/Vala, right? so Peter/Neal/El must have some sort of loose arrangement. Moment: so Tesla basically goes "How about this? I'll give you the Object if I can have sex with that one. ~points~" Tate: so now we're prostituting Neal out for Objects? Tate: seriously? Moment: yupperdo Tate: so what Object is it and what does it do? Moment: okay, it's the Shoe Brush Moment: and it must do something with menacing applications Moment: actually... maybe it's relatively innocent. Tate: Tesla's a sneaky bastard, isn't he? Moment: obvs the Tesla/Neal takes place in the Room Moment: so while Tesla's there, he steals the Deck of Cards and brings it back to the Cabal, so he doesn't get kicked out. it was their plan all along Moment: he also steals the Trinket, because I love the idea of him having the ability to skip universes if he needs it Tate: so what does it do? Moment: um... it grows hair. like, for bald people. or, y'know, not. Tate: that could go...well Tate: oh... y'know what I just thought of? Tate: Tesla's on the same base as W13 now. their GUNS. Moment: ogod Moment: I'd completely forgotten that Tate: he's going to meet them, right? and gloat? a lot? Moment: you say gloat. I say preen. Moment: but yes Tate: send him to W13 after he gets out of the Cabal? Moment: after. right. okay. Tate: so the Unit are never going to trust him again, right? Moment: actually... I think he should finish the Cabal off for them Moment: a few months later Tate: really Moment: yupperdo - Slashy (2:22 AM): so, let me send you what we determined earlier. you will be amused. Slashy (2:22 AM): Moment: whatever Object the Unit are after, the Cabal get there first. the Unit does not let this go. Moment: there are no hot uninvolved guys on the Unit. ~frowns~ Tate: this is true, but how is it a problem? Tate: you had Neal/Vala, right? so Peter/Neal/El must have some sort of loose arrangement. Moment: ...I ALWAYS forget that Moment: yes, true Moment: so Tesla basically goes "How about this? I'll give you the Object if I can have sex with that one. ~points~" Tate: so now we're prostituting Neal out for Objects? Tate: seriously? Moment: yupperdo Tate: okies Tessa-san (2:23 AM): .... Tessa-san (2:23 AM): poor neal Tessa-san (2:23 AM): poor, poor neal. Tessa-san (2:23 AM): does he at least get cuddles out of it? Slashy (2:23 AM): what do you mean "poor Neal"? Tesla's HOT. Slashy (2:24 AM): I mean... not shallow, me. Not at all. Tessa-san (2:24 AM): he is. but tatey-chan said it herself "now we're prostituting Neal out for Objects". No matter how pretty it is--and it is pretty--it's still sad. Slashy (2:25 AM): it gets worse. because Tesla is... er... not exactly evil, but not good. Slashy (2:25 AM): Moment: obvs the Tesla/Neal takes place in the Room Moment: so while Tesla's there, he steals the Deck of Cards and brings it back to the Cabal, so he doesn't get kicked out. it was their plan all along Moment: he also steals the Trinket, because I love the idea of him having the ability to skip universes if he needs it Slashy (2:26 AM): Tesla then takes out the Cabal, because he's awesome like that Slashy (2:26 AM): but still Slashy (2:26 AM): I'm a terrible person. Slashy (2:27 AM): okay, so there's about three months between this and when Tesla takes out the Cabal and goes to join the Warehouse guys. Slashy (2:27 AM): that means the Unit could do three things in this time. Slashy (2:27 AM): if you give me a scenario, or an effect, I will match it to an Object Tessa-san (2:28 AM): gives a shock like you'd get from an electric fence Slashy (2:29 AM): er... if you picked it up, or if you touched it wrong, or...? Tessa-san (2:29 AM): touch it at all Slashy (2:30 AM): that would make it rather hard for anyone to keep Slashy (2:30 AM): unless it's the bar of soap, and it only works after it gets wet Slashy (2:30 AM): which would be sense making, right? Tessa-san (2:30 AM): yes Slashy (2:31 AM): so there must be, er, character torturing stuff in these stories for the Unit, ne? Slashy (2:32 AM): I haven't really done anything to Jo and Zane yet. and I LOVE Jo and Zane. Slashy (2:32 AM): so something must happen to one of them. One of them should be zapped by the bar of soap. Slashy (2:32 AM): which one? Tessa-san (2:32 AM): Zane Slashy (2:33 AM): cool Slashy (2:33 AM): I mean... er, that's not what I mean. Slashy (2:33 AM): "cool" is the wrong response to that Tessa-san (2:33 AM): it can be played for comedy Tessa-san (2:33 AM): electric fences aren't that bad. Tessa-san (2:33 AM): Now, if it ups the amperage every time it delivers a new *shock* Slashy (2:34 AM): ooh Slashy (2:34 AM): I like that. Slashy (2:35 AM): how much can I zap him with it before I end up giving him permanent damage Tessa-san (2:35 AM): let's go with ten Slashy (2:36 AM): so, another effect. or, y'know, a character to torture and a way to torture them. that would be okay too. Tessa-san (2:38 AM): infects holder with what is effectively traditional vampirism, without any of the benefits Tessa-san (2:38 AM): and an Object that reverses it Slashy (2:38 AM): so that's... two connected Objects. Slashy (2:39 AM): or an Object and an Artefact. which would get us the Warehouse and be a good third story. Slashy (2:39 AM): so the Artefact does the infecting, and the Object fixes it Slashy (2:40 AM): and let's all pretend to be surprised that Tesla tracks down this Artefact specifically. he never wanted to be de-vamped. Slashy (2:41 AM): and the Object just wipes the system of all infectious agents Tessa-san (2:41 AM): right Slashy (2:41 AM): which would make it incredibly helpful, if it wasn't a thing that wasn't supposed to exist Slashy (2:42 AM): so it goes into the Room. after Tesla realizes that THIS bases form of vampirism is NOT as cool as his. Slashy (2:43 AM): and of course he preens when taken to the Warehouse with the Artefact, and he stays there Slashy (2:43 AM): now, I know we don't follow the Warehouse, just check in every now and then, so who's the next group the Warehouse group and Tesla should run into? Slashy (2:45 AM): can I say Castle? is it okay if they run into Caskett? Slashy (2:46 AM): an Artefact is obviously being used in whatever crime Caskett are investigating Slashy (2:47 AM): Tesla will fascinate Castle Slashy (2:47 AM): much to Kate's dismay, I'm sure Slashy (2:47 AM): once Castle learns about the Warehouse, and of course he WILL, he'll want to follow them back there Slashy (2:48 AM): Artie will not be pleased. But Mrs. Frederic might let him, in part just to annoy Artie. Slashy (2:49 AM): Kate will NOT be happy. Tessa-san (2:50 AM): think you'll be able to shoehorn in 'can we keep him' somewhere? Slashy (2:50 AM): Castle will totes fanboy all over the Warehouse. Because secret government conspiracies? he ADORES them. Slashy (2:50 AM): oh, probably. Kate will say no. Slashy (2:50 AM): Kate's not letting him go by himself, of course. She doesn't trust him to come back. Slashy (2:52 AM): they will help the Warehouse guys get another Artefact, then return to the Precinct. of course, now I need to know what the two Artefacts involved in these two stories are. Slashy (2:53 AM): help me come up with Artefacts Slashy (2:54 AM): oh~ I'm giggling hysterically now. Slashy (2:55 AM): I glanced at the artefacts and gadgets list to see if a couple things I was thinking of had already been used Slashy (2:55 AM): this is the first thing: "Tesla Gun: Designed by Nikola Tesla (with some assistance from H. G. Wells)" Slashy (2:55 AM): Helena is in Eureka. Where I'm planning to send Tesla. Slashy (2:55 AM): she knows him, but not THIS him. Slashy (2:56 AM): this will go SO well Slashy (2:56 AM): because she's very pretty. and I have NO DOUBTS, whatsoever, that Helena and her version of Tesla had a thing. Slashy (2:57 AM): but he is very gay, except for Magnus, who is very similar to Helena. Down to one syllable of the name. Slashy (2:57 AM): SO WELL Slashy (2:59 AM): Lorena Bobbit's Knife would absolutely be one of the Artefacts, ne? Slashy (3:00 AM): that can be the one in the crime Caskett are starting with Slashy (3:00 AM): because that makes sense Slashy (3:00 AM): then while they're at the Warehouse... Slashy (3:01 AM): it doesn't have to be evil Slashy (3:01 AM): just an Object used by a famous person and/or in a famous situation that may have been infused by some of that person/situations identity Slashy (3:03 AM): Castle does not understand the meaning of "look but don't touch". He would totes just pick something in the Warehouse up and have it accidentally activate, ne? Tessa-san (3:03 AM): yes Slashy (3:04 AM): they have Hitler's microphone in there. No one knows what it does. Slashy (3:04 AM): who wants to bet it has some mind control properties? Slashy (3:04 AM): this puts Castle in charge. and of course it makes him evil, because, well, HITLER Slashy (3:05 AM): so someone needs to be immune to fix this Tessa-san (3:05 AM): Kate Slashy (3:05 AM): and why would Kate be immune? Slashy (3:05 AM): is there some sort of... "true love" exemption clause? Slashy (3:05 AM): is it weird that that was my first thought? Tessa-san (3:06 AM): I was going to say because she knows him really well and doesn't take bullshit from him. Yours works too, though. Slashy (3:08 AM): okies. so after a bit she snaps him out of it and they are kicked out of the Warehouse Slashy (3:15 AM): then our Warehouse guys need to run into at least one more of our other groups before I leave them alone again for a bit Slashy (3:16 AM): haven't checked in with House in a while, I don't think. We could send them there. Slashy (3:16 AM): I'm imagining House and Tesla having a conversation. Tessa-san (3:16 AM): yes Slashy (3:18 AM): now, in order for the Warehouse guys to get to the hospital, there must be an Artefact in the hospital. are there any famous medical things, or famous doctors who might have had things? Tessa-san (3:19 AM): ...House has a copy of John Bell's book? Maybe it's waaaay older than he thinks it is? Slashy (3:19 AM): who's John Bell? Tessa-san (3:20 AM): I mean Joseph bell Tessa-san (3:21 AM): He was the doctor who inspired Sherlock Holmes Tessa-san (3:21 AM): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_BellSlashy (3:22 AM): so if House had his book, what would it do? Slashy (3:25 AM): I'm assuming, having read that wiki, that the book has some sort of forensics related effect Tessa-san (3:29 AM): can we...maybe communicate with the dead? Slashy (3:29 AM): ooh Slashy (3:29 AM): shiny Slashy (3:29 AM): and the Warehouse guys, and Tesla, show up and take it away eventually Slashy (3:30 AM): yay. now I can leave the Warehouse for a bit. Slashy (3:36 AM): oh... we only did two stories for the Unit. way to count, me. We need one more. - Slashy: come multitask with me? I needeth a sounding board Slashy: I have this problem where I have an actor, and no place to put him. Because I am out of OCs who do not have actors. Slashy: ...I am complaining about not having enough OCs. Yes, I realize this. Slashy: but I must create a male OC who I can put in one of my groups (preferably one with an attractive, available, not-straight guy) Slashy: this is ridiculous Slashy: i should be able to find a version of said actor who is in a show that is compatible with this base Slashy: that would be easier Slashy: surely Slashy: um... guy who played Logan on Dark Angel. I don't suppose you know his name or what other shows he's been in? Tessa-san: no Slashy: wow, tv.com, your banner isn't photoshopped at ALL Tessa-san: ?? Slashy: the banner, at the top of the programme page, is CLEARLY not a photograph Slashy: it's not. not that I noticed or anything. Slashy: I'm not even going to look at his credits list, as if I'd seen him on something else, I'd surely KNOW it. Instead, I shall send it to you, and you shall tell me if you've seen anything he's been in and if so if it's compatible with my gateverse base, mmmmmkay? Slashy: www.tv.com/michael-weatherly/person/1441/appearances.html?tag=page_nav;subtabs;appearances Tessa-san: OH MY GOD Tessa-san: TONY Slashy: so I'll take that as a yes Tessa-san: *glomp* Tessa-san: YES Tessa-san: OH MY GOD Tessa-san: Er. Tessa-san: NCIS Tessa-san: he's fucking tops. I love this guy. Slashy: he's adorable is what he is. Tessa-san: He is Tessa-san: completely Slashy: so would playing catchup with this show and putting on my gateverse base be helpful/a good idea? Tessa-san: it's in its eighth season. Slashy: that's not what I asked Tessa-san: yes. Tessa-san: it would be Slashy: I'm worried more about compatibility, and more specifically, how much het will it bring with it? Tessa-san: not too much Slashy: also, are there glasses? he had glasses in Dark Angel and that is the sole reason I remembered him. Tessa-san: thought I am a die-hard Tony/McGee shipper, myself Tessa-san: They are ADORABLE Slashy: I must assume, tho, that character does not wear glasses and I will be forced to remedy this lack myself. Tessa-san: he doesn't Slashy: ...~rereads that~ That's not as evil or menacing as it sounds. Honest. Tessa-san: also, Tony/Gibbs is a staple fandom pairing Tessa-san: and Abby/Ziva, too Tessa-san: And Gibbs/Ducky Slashy: so there is plenty of slash fodder, you say Tessa-san: yes Slashy: I shall have to play catchup. a lot. Slashy: and work out a good place to break canon, as I assume this is a still-running programme. Slashy: actually, you can do that part. find a place where you want me to break canon. like, a place where you think it would make sense/fit on my timeline/right before something you didn't like happened. Slashy: since I'm going to have to do TONNES of catchup before I can do anything other than say "you be in charge of this" Tessa-san: end of season Tessa-san: five? Slashy: see, for a while we can swap places. you can be the one who actually knows what's going on, and I can be the one who goes "oh, okay, that can happen". Tessa-san: that's when the team gets scattered Tessa-san: and I think you'll be able to work well with that. Slashy: okay, and what year is that? for timelining purposes Tessa-san: 2008 Slashy: so i only have to watch the first 5 for my catchup Slashy: that's easy Slashy: and until I do that, you can be charge of what goes on with this group. Tessa-san: *evil grin* Slashy: you can tell me when they should first appear on my timeline (timeline doesn't start until Jan 2009), and who is where, etc. Slashy: and a list of the charries I'll end up using will come in handy, for the At A Glance info Tessa-san: Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Tony DiNozzo, Ziva David, Tim McGee, Abby Schuito (check the spelling on that one, as I am shit and it is late), Donald Mallard, Leon Vance Slashy: okay. now you can tell me what names they'll be going my in the timeline. Tessa-san: Gibbs, Tony, Ziva, McGee, Abby, Ducky, Vance Slashy: I want Henry/Tesla ni my crossoververse. yet when Tesla goes back to the whoniverse, he is going back to Helen, because I LOVE Teslen (Cece can just DEAL with the portmanteau). so I need to do some finnagling. Slashy: does make sense if, WAY back in my whoniverse timeline, back when Tesla is at the Old City Sanctuary, he and Henry have a thing and when Helen finds out she yells, a lot, about Tesla taking advantage of her adopted son? THEN Teslen cross the pond to track the Master-making signal and he stays with the UK Sanctuary. Tessa-san: yes Slashy: know what my crossoververse needs? more pretty slash. know when a great time to add that is? Tessa-san: er Tessa-san: now? Slashy: probably not, but I'm going to suggest we do it anyway Slashy: Larry is gay. Larry in Eureka. Where I intent to soon send Tesla. Slashy: this sounds like it could work in my favour Slashy: and when the New Time Agents finally appear to pick up Helena, one of them will notice Tesla and deposit him firmly in his own universe Tessa-san: yup Slashy: where he has the Trinket, and the Sanctuary still has the now-closed Looking Glass Slashy: is it *wrong* that I want him to "borrow" Henry for a crossversal roadtrip? Tessa-san: no Tessa-san: do it Slashy: there are all sorts of bases they could end up on with the Trinket Slashy: of course, all those cross-versal portals they open up will need to be closed by SOMEBODY at SOME point Slashy: after the Trinket is safely locked up in the Room again Slashy: ...if Tesla DID manage to use the Source Blood to re-vamp himself, would that remove his magnetic abilities? Tessa-san: no Slashy: I didn't think it would, but I'm never sure of my science with these things
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Post by Cece on Dec 25, 2010 15:58:09 GMT -5
Moment: when was the last SG-1 story on the dryad arc? Cece: June 2010, dryads on Zale's world Cece: then we have the domestics at the SGC, Stark's descension, the naiad in the lake, and Hailey's amputation arc Moment: so a dryad story would be good right about now, huh? Cece: I'm thinking yeah Cece: so, the dryads retreated a bit after their defeat on Zale's world. they are now ready to start up operations again Cece: so Hailey starts her affair with GinnLyra Moment: so they go to this planet, right? and the dryads leave a plantform Moment: and it attaches to Hailey's robotic arm Cece: and obviously they need GinnLyra to come to the planet and free her before the plantform expands too far Cece: and that's how their affair begins Cece: then the next month is Ba'al's great escape Cece: and after that is when Robert takes Landry's job Cece: something must be going on then Moment: that's... right between the Ba'al arc stories Moment: so this should be non-arc Cece: right Moment: okay, so, really what needs to happen here is that Robert gets used to the idea of the SGC. I think he should go through the gate with SG-1. Cece: it is so bad that my first response to that was "and get kidnapped by dryads", right? Moment: so Robert gets kidnapped by dryads. what for? Cece: storage. for one of the treeships. they need plantfood slaves for their long journey Moment: and SG-1 rescues him before the treeship leaves the planet? Cece: er, no Cece: no, their attempt to rescue him ends up with them captured as well Cece: they then take over the treeship and turn it around Moment: and then Robert is all "never doing that offworld thing again", but takes the job as head of the SGC Moment: then Ba'al takes over Evan and no one notices, ne? Cece: exactly Cece: two mores stories until July Cece: more dryad stories? Moment: the July one should involve not-evil dryads Cece: such a thing exists? Moment: of course. just like there's at least one reasonable person in every group of bad guys Moment: there is at least one reasonable, non-evil grove of dryads Cece: and we encounter them how? Moment: well, they are doing their scouting thing, looking for uninhabited planets to go to. they don't even realize the evil groves are out there, as the groves don't really communicate with each other Moment: so SG-1 are on this planet, and the dryad scout group comes through, and when the dryads realize there are people here they go to leave peacefully and SG-1 are all shocked Moment: and they express this shock. and the dryads go "...they're doing WHAT?!" Cece: and then we form an allliance with them? Moment: of course Moment: but before that, one more story Cece: well, you remember that grove we first encountered? not the second one who hate them, the one before that? Moment: ye~s Cece: so we run into them, and they remember Aly being telepathic Moment: this will not go well Cece: they want to use her telepathy Cece: of course, she no longer has telepathy Cece: but when they capture her, the fact that they think she has telepathy is the only thing keeping them from killing her Cece: obvs the rest of SG-1 rescue her/do not become treefood Moment: so that's SG-1 to July, is it? Cece: I think so Cece: now, Atlantis stories, or the Unit? Moment: which would be easier? Cece: well, you only need two for the Unit Moment: this is...? Cece: right after Tesla took out the Cabal for them Moment: the Unit knows Tesla is with the Warehouse, right? Cece: but Atlantis doesn't. keep in mind that the US military are probably looking for him, since he did, y'know, escape Atlantis and disappear Moment: so, we need Objects Cece: the Tweezers are small Moment: any idea what they might do? Cece: they might remove the laws of inertia from the user Moment: that would be... interesting Cece: yupperdo Cece: so the Unit get it back Cece: one more Moment: how about an easy one. we already know what the Umbrella does, and where it probably is Moment: let's go get that Moment: now all that's left is bringing Atlantis to this same checkpoint, ne? Cece: Jan, Feb, Mar, May, June, July ~ Moment: See, what the "time saving innovation" is doing is not saving you time; it's saving your time. Sucking it out of your life and stockpiling it in some big whirly-flashy or stolid-spooky time sink so that the supervillains (say, Air Canada executives) can use it to keep themselves perpetually young. Moment: that one came with a "do not show to the Moff" disclaimer Moment: I will thusly end up using it somewhere, at some point Cece: that's helpful Moment: like, I think Jenny should take over Occupancy of the Room way sooner than right when you have the Room end the gateverse Cece: oookay? Moment: Joe should have a breakdown, because of that Objects being able to sense each other thing Moment: so Jenny takes him into the Room, kills him, then once the Occupancy has passed to her she brings Joe out and they find a way to bring him back to life Cece: any ideas on how? Moment: well, excess regeneration energy has been passed around before Cece: you want to regenerate Jenny again? Moment: it's been a couple years, right? Cece: one Moment: well, that's not that unusual for her family, is it? Cece: has an actress in mind? ~ Slashy (11:27 PM): ...it's terribly *wrong* that I want to regenerate Jenny into the actress who plays Amy, right? Tessa-san (11:28 PM): yes Slashy (11:27 PM): okay Slashy (11:27 PM): just checking ~ if Tesla always uses the Trinket on his exit point, it would stop them from being able to backtrack. the portals would only be one way, so if someone went after him they'd have to either permanently relocate, or continue after him until they caught up I think after he "borrows" Henry, Helen will have to go after him. And always be about a step behind in the wrong universe, until I'm ready to send him home promicin might have the same effect on Tesla as Source Blood. I realize this is weird, in that promicin is on the buffyverse base where there are *actual* vampires, but that form of vampirism is probably not good for him. completely aside from the dust thing, Tesla is morally gray enough *with* a soul Henry and Harper are very similar and would get along great, I think we gotta get purple Trance back. purple Trance was awesome. so purple and golden Trance must swap places again er, somewhere before the Rommieverse/Flyverse story Zoe needs to encounter the Warehouse sometime. preferably while Tesla is with them. she can be the thing that links him to Eureka. so, where are our Eureka blanks? or, rather, when did we leave off with Tesla at the Warehouse? July 2011. So in Sept. Zoe should have taken her MCAT, and passed. One of her friends from school gives her a gift that turns out to be an Artefact. A stethescope, most likely. It of course begins effecting her, so the Warehouse group have to show up. Then she goes home to Eureka for a brief vacation, taking Tesla with her I keep forgetting that QLSam and Al are currently sharing headspace with past Jack. and must continue to do so for two years, subjectively. QLSam has never had to share headspace before, usually the leapee is displaced by the leaper. he will, however, have at least a cursory understanding of how this kind of sybiosis works, having worked with Jackman and Hyde at the ARC for a while before going to TWG. other than brining QLSam and Al back to their bodies, the whoniverse base is finished (minus a bit of finetuning), which means Jack/QLSam/Al need to skip universes, ASAP. and try not to run into Grace's NTA anytime soon. and since NTA Jack is being Saul's live-in bf (I so wanted to write keptboy there, just so you know), to avoid paradoxes they shouldn't end up on the gateverse base. er, unless Jack's Factness negates the Blinovich Limitation Effect that same way the Doctor's Time Lordship does?
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Jan 6, 2011 18:18:52 GMT -5
Slashy (12:44 PM): have you watch the Moff's Sherlock yet? Tessa-san (12:46 AM): no Slashy (12:45 PM): it is BRILLIANT Slashy (2:42 PM): ...it's bad that I want to put the Moff's Sherlock into the crossoververse, right? (I want to put EVERYTHING into the crossoververse.) Tessa-san (2:44 AM): I recall suggesting sherlock holmes for something at some point. or at least thinking about it. Tessa-san (2:44 AM): I say do it Slashy (2:43 PM): where would it FIT? Tessa-san (2:45 AM): I don't know Slashy (2:45 PM): not on the whoniverse base because, well, I refuse to touch it again. Slashy (2:45 PM): no matter how much fun it would be to watch Sherlock and Jackman/Hyde interact Tessa-san (2:47 AM): is it really bad that I want to see rodney and holmes talk Tessa-san (2:47 AM): because that would be so amazing Tessa-san (2:47 AM): and by talk, obvs I mean 'fight' Slashy (2:46 PM): my problem with the gateverse base is that I have no other shows on the gateverse set in Britain Slashy (2:46 PM): but that would be fun Slashy (2:47 PM): also, Sherlock and House, just being in the same room together, might make things spontaneously explode Slashy (2:49 PM): I can find things to put on the gateverse base in Britain, I'm sure. My main problem right now is... are there references to the original Holmes stories in any of them that might lead to canon-based annoyances Tessa-san (2:51 AM): I can't think of any. Slashy (2:52 PM): I mean things like that line in SG-1 that stopped me using MacGyver Tessa-san (2:54 AM): you could write that off, y'know. Tessa-san (2:54 AM): as him being famous Tessa-san (2:54 AM): to inventors like sam. Slashy (2:53 PM): ...why didn't you think of that way back when you first suggested it? Tessa-san (2:54 AM): I don't know Slashy (2:54 PM): fine then, lump it in with the rest. this makes... 42 shows on my crossoververse Tessa-san (2:55 AM): OH Tessa-san (2:55 AM): you should definitely not add anymore Tessa-san (2:55 AM): unless you can get to 69 Slashy (2:54 PM): I must. Because I need Brit-set shows Slashy (2:55 PM): is it weird that my first thought on 69 shows, after, of course, the obvious, was NOT "ohmygod, that's a lot. we'll never get there" Slashy (2:55 PM): but was, instead, "huh, that's only 20-odd more" Tessa-san (2:57 AM): 27 Slashy (3:00 PM): Hotel Babylon is Brit-set. and technically on the crossoververse, tho it didn't make it to the list because it's never done anything but sit there and let the Unit invade once. Tessa-san (3:02 AM): that works Slashy (3:02 PM): but I'm sure it would be a fun thing to actually have around. especially because the monologue-explainy things they do (have you ever watched? this will make more sense if you have) make it seem like a place Mr. Moffat's Sherlock would quite like Slashy (3:06 PM): ...did you watch Luther when it played on BBCam? Tessa-san (3:08 AM): no Slashy (3:07 PM): I think Luther and Sherlock would get along fantastically Slashy (3:07 PM): well, that or murder each other Tessa-san (3:09 AM): or both Slashy (3:08 PM): true Slashy (3:08 PM): and as for Alice Morgan... oh, god. no. bad idea, Clary. two sociopaths should never be allowed to meet ~ Slashy (11:21 PM): ...we never actually saw Harry. I've just realized that this means I need to chose an actress for her. *Duh*. Slashy (11:21 PM): image.com.com/tv/images/processed/default/12/8c/224703.jpg does this woman look like a Harry short for Harriet to you? Tessa-san (11:22 PM): yes Slashy (11:32 PM): Cece said that promicin might work on Tesla the same way that the Source Blood did, but this is ridiculous because that is on the buffyverse base where there ACTUALLY vampires. she even acknowledged that much. However, I think the form of vampirism from Being Human is much closer to what Tesla is actually looking for. Being Human is Brit-set and I can think of no reasons not to put it on the whoniverse base. Slashy (11:32 PM): gateverse. Slashy (11:32 PM): obviously Slashy (11:32 PM): because half my sentence should just disappear Slashy (11:33 PM): "Being Human is Brit set and I can think of no reasons not to put it on the gateverse base, since the only reason it isn't on the whoniverse base is because it got too big before I got into it." Tessa-san (11:33 PM): I'm going to agree with you, because what I understood of it made sense. Slashy (11:34 PM): that gives me four Brit-set shows total. That sounds like it should be enough, but I KNOW it's not. Slashy (11:36 PM): ...I keep forgetting pan-universiality Slashy (11:38 PM): I remember mentioning this morning that it was a shame I'd have to put Sherlock on the gateverse base because it would have been fun watching Sherlock and Jackman/Hyde interact. Tessa-san (11:38 PM): but Slashy (11:38 PM): there is no reason Jekyll can't be pan-universal. damned headcold Slashy (11:44 PM): I am searching through watch-series to find other Brit-set shows I haven't noticed/watched Slashy (11:44 PM): dammit, most of them are historical fiction Slashy (11:44 PM): in no way does this help Tessa-san (11:47 PM): no, I imagine not Slashy (11:47 PM): I looked at Hex and was about to say "this is not compatible, what with the lesbian ghosts and the religious obviousness and all" Tessa-san (11:47 PM): ... Tessa-san (11:47 PM): *really*. Tessa-san (11:47 PM): that's not compatible with the crossoververse? Tessa-san (11:47 PM): really? Slashy (11:48 PM): then I remembered that Being Human has ghosts, and the angels could EASILY by rogue ascended Ancients. Slashy (11:49 PM): so Hex IS compatible. that makes five Brit-set shows... six. I can count, honest. ~ Moment: I'd actually quite like to see Sherlock and John on Atlantis, if only because it's possibly the only place on that base more fabulous than London Tate: they'd certainly never be bored Tate: what with the bi-weekly invasions and/or random Ancient boobytraps/failed experiments/"really should have put warnings/instructions somewhere near that" things Tate: oh, wait, you haven't done anything with Atlantis in ages, and most of it has been people juggling ~significant look~ Moment: ...I quite need to make a list of the Brit-set things I've added, so that I can remember to put them in the At A Glance info once some actually plotting starts happening Tate: what you *quite* need to do is *actually* start plotting Moment: Hotel Babylon, Sherlock, Being Human, Hex, pan-universal Jekyll Tate: Luther Tate: and it's not Brit-set, but you said to lump MacGyver in there Moment: it's kind of a shame Luther ended the way it did. Moment: Luther and Sherlock working a case together would have been amazing Tate: neither of them have any respect for things like procedure and, y'know, the law Tate: that would NEVER have been allowed Tate: even if Luther's career was not about to be over Moment: I know Moment: but imagine if it HAD Moment: now seriously. Luther was late 2009. Sherlock was mid 2010. Being Human is late 2009, Jekyll is... 2008, damn. Hotel Babylon doesn't really matter, but Hex was 2006, right? Tate: end of 2005. you'll just have to adjust your timeline. you can do the same for Jekyll Moment: now, let's see, obviously all these need to become entwined. including with the non-Brit-set ones. Moment: not so difficult with things like the Unit or the Warehouse. and after the colony is announced Atlantis. but there are other groups it will not be as easy for. Tate: you keep forgetting Quantum Leap Tate: oh, you mention leapingSam and put him in there, but you've sent him home Tate: your last story for him was sending him home, and you haven't even TOUCHED his present Moment: this is true. and speaking of leapingSam, there is no reason he can't Leap over to some brit-set folks Tate: of course not ~ Slashy (2:56 AM): I shouldn't want to send John and Sherlock to Atlantis anywhere near as much as I do, right? Tessa-san (2:58 AM): yes Tessa-san (2:58 AM): you should - Moment: we really need to outline the Brit-set gateverse base Tate: yes Tate: we do Tate: where do you want to start? Moment: what's the farthest back thing? Tate: Hex, I think Tate: beginning of 06 is where you need to pick it up Tate: you only have three characters, if I recall correctly Moment: mm. Ella, Leon, and Thelma were the only ones left. we need to rewatch that last episode before we can do this Tate: right Tate: on this base. Jericho owns the group Mrs. Utterson was working for, right? Moment: yes, of course Moment: so, there was this thing we discussed forever ago, back when we first watched Jekyll Tate: the creepy Katherine thing? Tate: that was... we weren't even thinking about the crossoververse then Moment: anyway, we never got around to writing it. and I think it would work out nicely on the gateverse base. Moment: well, I say "nicely" Moment: ASIDE: a long time ago, Tatey-chan wrote a vaguely creepy Katherine/Hyde porn (het! and sitting next to her mother at a writers conference!) and then I wrote about half of a much creepier dub-con Jackman/Hyde porn, and suggested we link the two by making hers a direct result of mine and having Katherine end up pregnant with Jackman not knowing a thing about it, and the baby having the same genetic thing as Jackman/Hyde and Mrs. Utterson and this causing havoc throughout the pregnancy, possibly with the baby eating it's way out of the womb Tate: I still think that bit on the end is unnecessarily creepy Moment: it's just creepy enough. there hasn't been enough creepy Moment: so plot with me, that bit at the end where Mrs. Utterson lunges for Jackman's throat Moment: in the whoniverse I went with the bit where she then laughs at him and tells him that *of course* Hyde isn't dead, and he then goes and wakes him up on purpose, and I have this cute scene of Hyde in a hospital room comatose inside Jackman's head, and Jackman giving him a telly and remote so he can peek because he's not so bad after all Moment: I need something similar, but darker Tate: what if Hyde wakes up AS she's leaping at his throat Tate: she might wind up being the dead one, with poor Jackman along for the ride and Hyde now firmly in control because they CAN'T keep switching back and forth or it will KILL them Moment: oh you're good Moment: yes Moment: yes, that, exactly Moment: so what they need to do first is stabilize, so they can, or else the creepy Katherine bit won't work. they need to be freely swapable. Tate: why? Tate: they have five or six swaps before it actually becomes impossible, which is what I think will happen Tate: one day they'll try to switch and it will HURT, and they'll know that if they keep going they'll die Moment: which one is trying to switch in when it happens? Tate: I don't know. Which one of them would stop? Moment: I don't know if either of them would, given the right circumstances Moment: would Hyde ever be content living behind Jackman's eyes? Tate: he might, for a while. Moment: then it must be Jackman. because then they go out with a BANG Tate: ...am I going to like this? Moment: depends Moment: someone hurts Claire. kidnaps her, or puts her in a coma, one of the other. she's alive, tho. Jackman would be content within the confines of the law, but Hyde... Moment: and if Hyde became that terrible, Jackman would absolutely kill them. Moment: possibly a second too late Moment: do you like it? Tate: I don't know. I don't DISlike it. Moment: good enough for me Tate: so we have a beginning and an end. and nothing in between. - Slashy (2:19 AM): ~stares at timeline~ Of COURSE I managed to finish filling this in through mid-2011, and THEN added a bunch of shows whose canon ends in early 2010 at the latest. Slashy (2:19 AM): that was good. great job, me. Slashy (2:20 AM): that means that for the most part all my Brit-set shows have to mingle only with each other. They can't connect with the ones across the pond until after. Which is ridiculous. Slashy (2:50 AM): ...I've just wondered what the warnings and disclaimers are going to look like once I start actually writing the crossoververse Tessa-san (2:51 AM): ... Tessa-san (2:51 AM): just say 'warning for EVERYTHING and I don't own ANYTHING' Slashy (2:52 AM): but I do actually have original characters Slashy (2:52 AM): about 10% of the total cast now are original character Slashy (2:52 AM): and I don't need to warn for EVERYTHING. there are SOME things even I won't touch. Tessa-san (2:53 AM): true Tessa-san (2:53 AM): "everything except pedophilia and beastiality" I think Slashy (2:53 AM): I'm fairly sure that's inaccurate, as I did write poodleporn once. Slashy (2:54 AM): also, I avoid puppets, and some of the more disturbing things that can be found if you spend any length of time in a kinkmeme post Slashy (2:56 AM): there are over forty shows in the crossoververse, some of them more than once. even making a disclaimer post to disclaim them all will take at least ten minutes. I'm fairly sure that's much too long. Tessa-san (2:57 AM): "I don't own anything that you recognize." Slashy (2:57 AM): but not everyone will recognize every show on there Slashy (2:57 AM): heck, not everyone on my PANEL has seen every show on there Slashy (3:03 AM): I'm going to have to warn for the inability of certain characters to keep it in their pants. And I'm NOT thinking about Jack, because I'm on the wrong base for that. Slashy (3:04 AM): Atlantis turned into a den of infidelity right quick Slashy (3:05 AM): I can DO one big disclaimer post, ridiculously long as that will take. But I think the warnings all have to be separate. Slashy (3:05 AM): I'm sort of tempted to play the warnings game, now Tessa-san (3:05 AM): what's the warnings game? Slashy (3:06 AM): pick a story from the storysheets, any story, and I will tell you the warnings that will have to go on it. Cece was playing with me earlier, when she was over here. we didn't write any of it down, because we weren't really being serious about it. Tessa-san (3:07 AM): the fake news arc on the whoniverse base Slashy (3:08 AM): the whole ARC? there are several stories on that arc. they contain different things. Slashy (3:08 AM): the differences between the warnings on the "John molests Stephen" story and the "Moon Picnic" story cannot be overstated Tessa-san (3:11 AM): I was going more for the first one Slashy (3:16 AM): how DO you warn for molestation? it's not noncon, because there is no actual sex and there are so many shades of molestation the word itself hardly qualifies. ~frown~ Tessa-san (3:18 AM): unwanted groping? Slashy (3:18 AM): okies Slashy (3:19 AM): and then the standard "Jack being Jack and John being John" warning Slashy (3:20 AM): I'm fairly sure that's all that needs warning for in that story. Other than the molestation, there isn't much going on in that story. - Slashy (11:58 PM): y'know what's unhealthy? Tessa-san (11:58 PM): everything you do? Slashy (11:58 PM): watching all of Skins from the beginning in one sitting Slashy (11:58 PM): oh, shut up Tessa-san (11:58 PM): oh shit Tessa-san (11:58 PM): yes Tessa-san (11:58 PM): that Slashy (11:58 PM): So Much Pretty, and breaking, and mental illness, and it might just ACTUALLY break my brain Slashy (11:58 PM): I should not be considering it Slashy (12:06 AM): Skins is in no way me being productive. In no way. Tessa-san (12:06 AM): ... Tessa-san (12:07 AM): I am not suggesting you add it to the crossoververse Tessa-san (12:07 AM): at all Slashy (12:07 AM): ri~ght. Slashy (12:07 AM): you're not suggesting it very loudly, are you? Tessa-san (12:07 AM): no Slashy (12:08 AM): maybe that sentence would have read better if I'd punctuated it properly... not-suggesting. with the hyphen. Slashy (12:08 AM): it's probably more true that way Slashy (12:10 AM): Pandora and Thomas went to Harvard, where Zoe is. Slashy (12:10 AM): This is the *first* thing that popped into my head Slashy (12:12 AM): JJ and Lara are completely irrelevant, Cook is about to go to prison for murdering the evil shrink, Effy is in and out of the psych ward, Naomily are adorable, and I've discovered so much love for KFF it's not even funny. I feel like I've forgotten someone from gen2. Slashy (12:13 AM): I haven't. According to the internet, I have not forgotten anyone from gen2 Slashy (12:16 AM): seriously, tho, I should KNOW where Katie Fucking Fitch ended up. She got SO awesome during s4 I completely forgot that I hated her for most of s3. Slashy (12:31 AM): because you not-suggested putting this on the crossoververse, and I am not-considering it Slashy (12:31 AM): just so you know Slashy (12:31 AM): do you suppose those "not-"s are convincing anyone? Tessa-san (12:31 AM): ... Tessa-san (12:31 AM): no Slashy (12:32 AM): I didn't think so Slashy (12:32 AM): ~lesigh~ Slashy (12:36 AM): also, I failed until mid-s4 to notice the HUGE piles of Keffy subtext Slashy (12:36 AM): which is surprising, because I KNOW that Effy has subtext with EVERYTHING Slashy (12:37 AM): but I didn't notice until she was teaching Katie how to smoke and sort-of groped her chest while teaching her how to inhale Slashy (12:37 AM): I feel so blind Slashy (12:37 AM): because the rest of it is BLATENTLY OBVIOUS in retrospect Slashy (1:04 AM): 'how awesome would that show be? It would be called HyperFitch and Katie would travel through the whole of time and space, but instead of saving the universe like the Doctor, she'd throw parties and consult on fashion. Like, when she returned to the present, you'd look at illustrated Jane Austen novels, and Charlotte Lucas would be wearing a zebra-striped corset.' Slashy (1:04 AM): you have no idea how much I love this idea Tessa-san (1:05 AM): that's brilliant Slashy (1:05 AM): I'd need to make minor adjustments, of course. and find someone with actual time travel to send her with. Tessa-san (1:05 AM): you have to write this. Tessa-san (1:05 AM): you have Tessa-san (1:05 AM): we've stopped pretending now, haven't we Slashy (1:05 AM): ... Slashy (1:05 AM): *fuck* Slashy (1:06 AM): yep, we totally have Tessa-san (1:06 AM): couldn't forever Slashy (1:06 AM): I was hoping for a bit more than an hour though Slashy (1:06 AM): honestly, self-control. I used to have it. Tessa-san (1:07 AM): your fault. Slashy (1:07 AM): it is NOT. it is Heather Hogan's fault. She wrote the damn recap with THAT in it. Slashy (1:07 AM): I can't just IGNORE that Slashy (1:07 AM): I am not capable of it Slashy (1:08 AM): ...bad, Clary. Bad. First thought after "need to find Katie someone with time travel" should not be "Jack". Should NOT. ~looks at you~ Not, right? Tessa-san (1:08 AM): am I *REALLY* the person you want to ask that. Tessa-san (1:08 AM): *REALLY* Slashy (1:09 AM): sometimes I do like being enabled Tessa-san (1:09 AM): then fuck yeah! Slashy (1:09 AM): have you SEEN Katie Fucking Fitch? Tessa-san (1:09 AM): no Slashy (1:09 AM): the twins barely look legal. Slashy (1:09 AM): I mean, they are legal. But *just* this side of it Tessa-san (1:09 AM): hello katie fucking fitch Tessa-san (1:09 AM): you're *extremely* pretty Slashy (1:10 AM): they both are. personally, I like Emsy best, because she's softer. But they are both gorgeous. Slashy (1:10 AM): and Katie would totes latch on to Jack, right? Right? She would? Tessa-san (1:10 AM): from what you've told me Tessa-san (1:10 AM): absolutely Slashy (1:11 AM): and Emsy would be all "Katie, he's, like, older than that teacher who tried to make out with my girlfriend. Srsly?" Tessa-san (1:11 AM): oh, he's *way* older than *that* Slashy (1:15 AM): I'm trying to imagine what Katie would say to Emsy's protest. Slashy (1:15 AM): Because it really is a VALID protest Tessa-san (1:16 AM): does she know Jack's immortal? Tessa-san (1:16 AM): Also, which base is this? Slashy (1:16 AM): We're over on the gateverse base Slashy (1:16 AM): sometime after Jack stops being Saul's keptboy Slashy (1:16 AM): I mean... that's not what was going on there Slashy (1:16 AM): not at a~ll Tessa-san (1:16 AM): that's...just really, *really* cute. Slashy (1:17 AM): anyway, after that. Jack first off needs a reason to be in Britain. Tessa-san (1:17 AM): right Slashy (1:21 AM): if there were something for his VM scanner thing to pick up, it would make sense for him to go Tessa-san (1:22 AM): yeah Slashy (1:22 AM): a crashed spaceship would do Slashy (1:22 AM): but whose would it be? Tessa-san (1:22 AM): dead aliens' Tessa-san (1:23 AM): that the 2nd gen kids stumble upon? Slashy (1:23 AM): that would not surprise me at all Slashy (1:23 AM): "ooh, comet!" "let's follow it!" "PARTY!" "We are on so many drugs right now, we don't even realize that's an alien spaceship. For reals." Tessa-san (1:23 AM): yes Slashy (1:24 AM): ...it's interesting how the more high they got, the better the punctuation there got Slashy (1:24 AM): and Jack shows up, to make sure there are no evil aliens and stuff Slashy (1:24 AM): does Jack... have any monies? like, at all? Tessa-san (1:24 AM): probably not many Tessa-san (1:25 AM): he'd be able to come up with something though Slashy (1:25 AM): so where is he staying in Bristol? In the woods? Tessa-san (1:25 AM): ...I want to say yes so badly Slashy (1:25 AM): so do I Slashy (1:26 AM): and there ARE evil aliens, and he saves them, so Katie brings him home and lets him stay in the caravan she and her family are staying in Slashy (1:26 AM): because they went bankrupt in the middle of s4 Tessa-san (1:26 AM): do it Slashy (1:27 AM): I think her parents might have something to say. At the same time. Her brother Jamie wears leopard print, single shoulder, one piece bathing suits. Slashy (1:27 AM): he's twelve Tessa-san (1:27 AM): ... Slashy (1:27 AM): yeah, there's really nothing to say to that, is there? Tessa-san (1:27 AM): someone needs to tell him to stop Tessa-san (1:27 AM): immediately Tessa-san (1:27 AM): *no one* should wear animal prints. Slashy (1:28 AM): Katie Fucking Fitch managed to make them look good. Slashy (1:28 AM): that may just be sheer force of will, tho Tessa-san (1:28 AM): Jack needs to call her that Tessa-san (1:28 AM): at least once Slashy (1:28 AM): anyway, Katie brings Jack home with her, what do her parents say Tessa-san (1:28 AM): "Uh, WTF are you doing with a forty year old man?" "He followed me home, can I keep him?" Slashy (1:30 AM): ...I think her father might be more easy going on this one. Just because her father is awesome. Slashy (1:30 AM): Her mother, tho, has issues. Slashy (1:33 AM): she brings Jack home after he saves her and her friends lives Slashy (1:34 AM): I'm going to assume there's nothing "untoward" going on at this point Tessa-san (1:34 AM): Jack's just like 'hay, I did this in the 70's!' an no one believes him Tessa-san (1:34 AM): I like to think that Jack was a hippie for a bit. Tessa-san (1:35 AM): & told whoever his boss at the time was 'oh, they're really odd what if they're under mind control!' Slashy (1:35 AM): ~totes believes that~ Slashy (1:35 AM): her parents let him stay with them as a thank you Slashy (1:36 AM): ...oh god Slashy (1:36 AM): he obvs can't stay at the caravan forevs, cause Mr. and Mrs. Fitch won't stand for that. When he needs to move out, Naomi's mum has a habit of taking in strays. Slashy (1:36 AM): and for some reason I'm thinking Naomily weren't there at the alien ship, so until he goes to stay with them, he doesn't even know Katie has a twin Slashy (1:37 AM): and cute, lesbian twin Slashy (1:37 AM): go on, imagine Jack's *very first* reaction to learning this Tessa-san (1:38 AM): "Why didn't you tell me you had a twin?!" "Why didn't you ask?" "She's gorgeous..." Katie glares. "Not as gorgeous as you." Slashy (1:39 AM): I'm trying to figure out if it would be completely wrong of me to have Jack "accidentally" spying on Naomily. Tessa-san (1:40 AM): has something being 'completely wrong' ever stopped you before? Slashy (1:41 AM): ~thinks, looks at orginal comments~ Slashy (1:41 AM): ... Slashy (1:41 AM): I just... feel almost bad about this one. They're *barely legal*. They're *younger than Rose*. Tessa-san (1:42 AM): by a year Tessa-san (1:42 AM): He'd stop after a minute because he felt like a dirty old man Tessa-san (1:42 AM): and one thing Jack *hates* is feeling old Slashy (1:42 AM): yes Slashy (1:43 AM): this is why he's let Katie latch onto him Slashy (1:43 AM): to the point that when he's going to leave, and she wants to go with him, he *lets* her Tessa-san (1:43 AM): yes Tessa-san (1:44 AM): and after one adventure, he'll just be like, oddess,whathaveidone Slashy (1:44 AM): he's not getting rid of her that easy, tho. That Katie Fitch is one stubborn bitch. Slashy (1:44 AM): She's totes stealing his VM Slashy (1:44 AM): I know she is Slashy (1:44 AM): I don't know when, or exactly why, but she is. Slashy (1:45 AM): "You *no not* get to leave *me*! That's not how it works! I'm keeping this until you change your mind. ~stalks off with VM~" Slashy (1:47 AM): so, what one adventure does Jack take Katie on before he realizes that's a bad idea and she won't let him out of it? Tessa-san (1:47 AM): worms Tessa-san (1:47 AM): giant worms. like. Dune-sized worms Slashy (1:48 AM): where? Tessa-san (1:49 AM): Another planet. A leisure planet. Tessa-san (1:49 AM): The tourists are getting eaten by giant Dune worms. But Jack doesn't know that and is like 'hey, this is a nice place in my universe!' Tessa-san (1:49 AM): but no Tessa-san (1:49 AM): 'cos here, there are giant dune worms Slashy (1:50 AM): NICE Slashy (1:50 AM): and then he drags her back home and tries to leave her there, and she having NONE of it Tessa-san (1:51 AM): and she just runs off with the VM cos she doesn't know how it works? Slashy (1:51 AM): she just knows that it's the thing that works. but yeah, she doesn't know how. Tessa-san (1:51 AM): and Jack's just like 'oh, fuck this! why does this keep happening to me' Slashy (1:52 AM): yes, but not until after Katie does the sensible thing and brings the VM to Naomily's house and they go into the woods to examine it in private Slashy (1:52 AM): and accidentally zap themselves someplace with no way to get back Slashy (1:52 AM): because, well, they WOULD Tessa-san (1:52 AM): you're terrible Slashy (1:52 AM): I am Slashy (1:53 AM): now, where could I possibly send them that would be far enough away to frighten them but not far enough away to not get them back? Slashy (1:53 AM): must be someplace on Earth, without the temporal element. just an ordinary teleport. Tessa-san (1:54 AM): France Tessa-san (1:54 AM): Send them to Paris. Tessa-san (1:54 AM): None of them speak French, right? Tessa-san (1:54 AM): and it'd be easy to get them home Slashy (1:54 AM): Katie was learning, from Thomas. Mostly swear words tho. Not fluently. Tessa-san (1:55 AM): they'd get detained & Jack could come and break them out.</font> Slashy (1:55 AM): if Jack knew where they were Slashy (1:55 AM): keep in mind that he no longer has the scanner part of the VM Slashy (1:55 AM): he can't track them down that easily Tessa-san (1:55 AM): yeah, but they'd call home Slashy (1:58 AM): it would make more sense for the girls to call home and have Jack pick up, and leave a note for the parents lying about how he took them away for a trip so they won't worry and just going to get them without telling anyone Slashy (1:58 AM): because that would probably freak them right out, but not quite as badly as trying to explain a teleporter would Slashy (1:58 AM): because all the stuff that goes along with that? the Fitch's do not want to know. Slashy (1:59 AM): meanwhile, in Paris, before the panic: "Is this... Paris? Katie, why the fuck are we in Paris?" "I don't know! Last time it was evil alien worms!" "..." "..." "We're in Paris, Naoms." "Oh for fucks sake! Could you two stop snogging for, like, two minutes?" Slashy (1:59 AM): THEN they get detained Tessa-san (1:59 AM): yes Slashy (2:00 AM): Jack wants his VM back Slashy (2:00 AM): do you suppose Katie will give it back that easily? Tessa-san (2:01 AM): Jack will yoink it from her and hold it above his head because he is taller than her neenerneener. And then, I suspect, she will kick him. Slashy (2:01 AM): yes Slashy (2:02 AM): so she will end up keeping it Slashy (2:02 AM): and going with him again, after they drop Naomily back home Slashy (2:08 AM): so. right. Katie's all "I'm going with you and there's nothing you can do about it." Where do they go next? Tessa-san (2:09 AM): a resort planet that doesn't suck? Slashy (2:10 AM): ah, yes, that would be nice Slashy (2:10 AM): and she can be all "See, the evil was just a fluke. You can have this back now if you promise not to try to ditch me again." Slashy (2:11 AM): she could not be more wrong, because the peace part is the part that is a fluke Slashy (2:11 AM): which she would know, if she knew anything of Jack's backstory Slashy (2:21 AM): Jack and Katie, off on adventures. I feel like her hair colour should be died darker, so when it goes back to that cherry colour it is so unique some people on this alien planet assume she is their messiah or some such Tessa-san (2:21 AM): yes Slashy (2:22 AM): this will not go well, because they want to sacrifice their messiah to a volcano Slashy (2:22 AM): yes? Tessa-san (2:23 AM): yes Tessa-san (2:23 AM): ... Tessa-san (2:23 AM): why do people always think killing the messiah will make things HAPPY Slashy (2:24 AM): because people are STUPID Slashy (2:24 AM): he obvs rescues her from the volcano (there will be a volcano joke here, I just know there will. I can't help myself sometimes.) and they escape to safety Tessa-san (2:25 AM): by 'volcano joke' you mean 'ejaculation joke' right? Slashy (2:26 AM): I was going for a Volcano Day, call-back to the early days, joke. but Yahoo erased the word day, because it is evil. Tessa-san (2:26 AM): you can do both Slashy (2:27 AM): and after being rescued Katie will be all "Okay, so it might be a little dangerous." Slashy (2:29 AM): Katie would be the type to suggest saving her family from bankruptcy by going back in time and opening a bank account to collect interest over hundreds of years and invest in stocks that were going to be big Slashy (2:29 AM): do you suppose this Jack would let her? Tessa-san (2:30 AM): mmm Tessa-san (2:30 AM): yes. Tessa-san (2:30 AM): it doesn't really *change* anything. it's just cheating. Tessa-san (2:30 AM): Jack can get behind that Slashy (2:31 AM): good Slashy (2:32 AM): so then Katie would have him bring her home to visit the fam, and she'd be all "oh, and by the way, I found this old will or whatever... looks like we're rich again." Slashy (2:32 AM): and then she'd take some of the money herself, and go back and reinvest it, so she could have money that was HERS Slashy (2:33 AM): also, I think she's totes paying for Effy's therapy now. They're bffs. Slashy (2:33 AM): and by "bffs" I mean, both hot and if one twin is gay... Slashy (2:35 AM): well, it's probs just Effy for Katikins, but still. now that I've seen Keffy, there is no going back. Slashy (2:36 AM): Katie will eventually get sick of this adventuring thing, and Jack will go back to the time agency, and then I will get my Keffy. I will. And eventually I will figure out what happened to Tony and write him back in, because there is NO WAY his little sister is in a mental hospital and he is still AWOL Slashy (2:37 AM): socks. that is all I have to say on Tony and Effy. SOCKS.
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Jan 23, 2011 1:32:26 GMT -5
Cece: on the subject of Tesla Cece: trying to timeline him is ridiculous because of how many gaps there are Min: okay, so, I think we're good for Eureka. He shows up, he sleeps with Larry, he interact with Helena, the New Time Agency drops him back home, yeah? That's good enough, right? Cece: then he uses the Trinket to borrow Henry Cece: this is where it gets sketchy Min: right. because all we know is that She wants Henry and Harper to interact, and there's one where he gets revamped by Being Human vampires Min: and then he gets the Trinket taken away and heads home, obvs Cece: they must visit every base at least once Min: so when do they visit the caseverse? Cece: sometime after Sofianna joins up Min: okay, when is this for them? Min: before or after Andromeda? Cece: after Cece: okay, what about when they visit the flyverse? Min: before Cece: buffyverse? Min: after the caseverse. how many times are they on the gateverse? Cece: I think the re-vamping is their last stop, period Cece: but it's obviously a separate story from the one where the Trinket is taken from them Min: now, if Magnus is always one step behind them, does that mean she's stuck on the gateverse base once Tesla and Henry return home? Min: speaking of. how DO Henry and Tesla return home? they don't have the Trinket anymore. Cece: maybe the original portal Tesla created to return to the whoniverse is still open? I mean, it has to be closed eventually, but... Min: so then Magnus? Cece: with her penchant for getting into secret organisations? all she has to do is hang around for a bit, until she encounters Jenny. and then just go "uh, do you know where this is?" and then Jenny can help her find it and then close the portals Min: doesn't Jenny KNOW Magnus? from back when the Sanctuary was cooperating with SJA? Cece: ...that's great Cece: Magnus won't recognize Jenny. she's regenerated since. er... twice, if I recall correctly Min: is Jenny leaving the Unit for this? Cece: oh, she'll be back Cece: she'll be gone for a while, closing portals and having adventures Cece: then she'll VM back into the Room and regenerate AGAIN Min: nice Min: got an actress in mind? Cece: Lucy Hale Cece: The Bodleian Libraries Twitter feed refers to books added to the new depository in Swindon as having been 'ingested'. Does this mean that the books are, in fact, being fed to a monster which has taken up residence on an industrial estate off the A419 and is demanding matured printed matter as its price for not unleashing a greater cataclysm? Perhaps this is why so many public libraries are closing, so that the beast has more to feed on when it has ingested the entire Bodleian bookstack. Cece: is it bad that I want Her to use that? Min: She totes will Min: I think after Jenny has her Tardis, y'know, after the gateverse ceases to exist, she should be in the Buffyverse and encounter this Cece: I was thinking Jack would encounter it. they could meet up? Min: oh, that is so the last thing either of them need Cece: does that mean you approve? Min: let's talk Skins. where is everyone? Cece: let's see... Emsy and Naoms went to Goa for the summer Cece: Cook should be back in jail, Freddie's dead Cece: Effy is in and out of the mental hospital Cece: Panda and Thomas went to Harvard Cece: Katikins is prolly home with her parents, working cos they can't afford college Cece: JJ and Lara are irrelevant Cece: Maxxie, his bf James, and Anwar are in London somewhere, Tony went to Cardiff U, Chris died, Sid and Cassie are in NYC, and I have no idea about Michelle or Jal ~ Slashy (12:44 AM): ...do you suppost the effect of overdosing on the smartpill would be the same effect as taking it over the safe-age? (random crossoververse question) Tessa-san (12:45 AM): ...yes
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Feb 16, 2011 3:50:06 GMT -5
Moment: why is okay to slash the Doctor's various incarnations with each other, but not okay to ship him with Jenny? It is cloning. Therefore, it is the SAME FUCKING THING. Tate: but it's not Tate: for starters, she calls him dad. Tate: she doesn't have his memories. Tate: she's SO much younger than he is. Tate: And Donna would disapprove. Moment: I love how Donna's disapproval is the only thing in that list worthy of capitalization. Moment: you let me do Jackman/Hyde and Hyde calls Tom "Daddy" Moment: younger versions of the Doctor don't have all his memories Moment: and she's BIOLOGICALLY at least as old as Rose, and since when has age mattered? the age difference between Time Lords sure doesn't. there were whole centuries between some of the Doctors and that doesn't seem to matter Tate: the Jackman/Hyde is non-con and is totally creepy and I'm only letting you get away with it because the Creepy Katherine Thing needs it to function. Tate: But they have enough for him to trust them. The older one remembers being them, and the younger one understands that he'll become the older one. it's a kind of knowledge that leads to immediate trust. not, y'know, in all things (hello Two and Three) but in the most important things Tate: BIOLOGICALLY doesn't really matter. she's very young by Time Lord standards. Even with centuries between them, all the Doctors are pretty old. I mean, One was 450 when we started. Tate: Also, YOU think Romana is too young for him, and she has at LEAST two centuries on Jenny Moment: the Creepy Katherine Thing doesn't need it to function. It COULD pick up with yours, it's just more FUN with mine Moment: Okay, you can have this point. That is important. Moment: there are no Time Lord standards anymore, remember? there are only... five? Old Time Lords left, they get to recreate the standards. Tate: Fun is not the word I'd use. The whole Creepy Katherine Thing is really dark. Tate: six. the Doctor, the Master, the Rani, Romana, Susan, and Iris who is now in Donna's brain. and Romana is the one who built New Gallifrey. she LIKES the old standards. Moment: dark is good Moment: right. forgot about Iris. Romana does NOT like the old standards. at least, not all of them. obviously, considering some of the things she lets the domestics get away with. Tate: do not overdo the dark Tate: that might just be because it's THE DOMESTICS, tho. everyone lets them get away with more than they'd let anyone else get away with. Moment: so real dark is bad, but "who should we traumatise today?" isn't? Moment: don't lie Moment: and of course it's partly because they're the domestics, but Romana isn't the sort of apply a double standard. she knows that whatever she lets them get away with, she has to let anyone else get away with too. she's careful like that. Tate: there is a difference between real dark and traumatising our favourites Tate: it's like... Because we always let them survive, and eventually heal, and move on in some fashion, traumatising our favourites is okay. Because we love them, they always bounce back. the Reward Sequence is dark, but it's dark in a way that you know they're going to be... if not okay then just *as* okay as they started out. Tate: and real dark doesn't have that. it ends in real death, or violence, or rape, or with them too broken to be repaired and if you go too far that way you can't get out again. your characters can't get out again.and that's USELESS, because then you have to stop Moment: that... makes a good deal of sense, yes - Tessa-san: What if Daniel were a paleontologist instead of an archeologist? Slashy (1:14 AM): just so you know, my VERY first reaction about reading that was that I'd love to see that AU crossed with Primval, pre-S2 finale. Tessa-san (1:14 AM): omg Tessa-san (1:14 AM): that's brilliant Slashy (1:15 AM): I don't think I could get away with it on the crossoververse, though, and I can't do anything non-crossoververse these days. And if it already existed, I would KNOW about it. Slashy (1:17 AM): I wonder... if I could get away with putting that AU on the buffyverse base... mostly because I am incapable of self-restraint. I have been thinking about this since I got online, thanks to you. Tessa-san (1:17 AM): Yes Tessa-san (1:17 AM): do it Slashy (1:18 AM): the thing is... Primeval is 2007/8/9? and my buffyverse base has the 4400, which is 2006. Slashy (1:20 AM): the problem isn't so much the years as the fact that the 4400 aren't mentioned anywhere in the Primeval canon. and the 4400 takes place before/during that canon. so if the 4400 existed we'd have *heard* about them, surely. Slashy (1:20 AM): I mean, the 4400 is mostly American-set so there is *maybe* a chance that it's just not as hot a topic overseas, since most of the 4400 are American and promicin hasn't hit the overseas market yet. Slashy (1:21 AM): but it is a very remote chance Slashy (1:21 AM): which, y'know, considering the *rest* of the crossoververse Slashy (1:23 AM): which means I have to fucking remember where the penultimate episode of Primval S2 left off. Or find a way to make just the end of it go away. Slashy (1:26 AM): ...Stephen went into that room and Nick watched him die. And then there was... sad music... and there was... Helen in the cemetary, being creepy with military clones and... she said... "Things change. More than you can imagine." Or something vague like that. While looking at Stephen's headstone. Slashy (1:27 AM): I do not care which base I am on. I will never not believe that she has clones. Slashy (1:27 AM): so... I can pick up from there. That's... the end of 07, if I recall correctly. Slashy (1:29 AM): which means Nick can be all sad, and Connor can be all fanboy-y. and Lester can hire paleoDaniel. and later there will be Helen and clones of Stephen. Plural. Yes? Tessa-san (1:29 AM): YES Tessa-san (1:29 AM): Plz Slashy (1:32 AM): so, how long should our team be sadNick, fanboyConnor, Abby, and paleoDaniel before Helen and the clones arrive? Tessa-san (1:32 AM): At least six months Tessa-san (1:32 AM): I like how Abby is the only one there who doesn't get a modifier Slashy (1:32 AM): I don't REMEMBER enough about S2 Abby Slashy (1:33 AM): but I KNOW Nick will be the sad. And Connor has ALWAYS been Nick's fanboy. Slashy (1:35 AM): I think there will be three clones, and at least one of them will die. To, y'know, further traumatize Nick. Tessa-san (1:35 AM): yeesssss Slashy (1:36 AM): okay, right. the six months prior to that. Slashy (1:36 AM): obviously in Month One there is Lester hiring paleoDaniel. Months Two through Six have nothing in them. Slashy (1:37 AM): ...there's nothing else brit-set in the buffyverse base. Slashy (1:38 AM): of course, there's not much of ANYTHING on the buffyverse base Slashy (1:38 AM): I have neglected it Slashy (1:38 AM): a lot Slashy (1:38 AM): there's... Tru Calling, the 4400, and Merlin. Tessa-san (1:38 AM): Merlin is brit-set, isn't it? Slashy (1:38 AM): aside from, y'know, Buffy and Angel. Which I shouldn't have to list, as they are the base. Slashy (1:38 AM): it is Deep Past Slashy (1:39 AM): that is nowhere NEAR where my timeline is at Slashy (1:39 AM): I mean, portals randomly opening up HAPPENS, but not frequently enough Slashy (1:40 AM): I know once Jenny turns the Room into a Tardis, she'll end up on the buffyverse, mostly because that's the only place left to really send her. But, again, that is no frequent/consistant enough. Slashy (1:41 AM): I needeth brit-set programming consistant with my buffyverse timeline Slashy (1:41 AM): ...oh god Slashy (1:42 AM): I just... somehow, back when we were doing brit-set shows on the gateverse, it NEVER ONCE occurred to me that Life on Mars could be pan-universal. I just had this random flash of Sam Tyler working with the Moff's Sherlock. Tessa-san (1:43 AM): .... Tessa-san (1:43 AM): yes Tessa-san (1:43 AM): just Tessa-san (1:43 AM): just yes Slashy (1:44 AM): if I make them BOTH pan-universal, I can fit this onto the buffyverse base, I'm sure of it Tessa-san (1:44 AM): YES Tessa-san (1:44 AM): do it Slashy (1:44 AM): I'm not sure how, because the Moff's Sherlock is 2010 and Life on Mars is, at best, 2008. But I'm sure I can do it. Slashy (1:45 AM): the 4400 would be a decent explanation for how Sam Tyler would survive jumping off a building, right? Tessa-san (1:45 AM): fuck yeah Slashy (1:46 AM): and possibly for the whole coma/time travel shtick as well Slashy (1:46 AM): since the 4400 is pre-LoM canon Slashy (1:47 AM): which means I can let him have some time back in the 70's with Gene. Then wake back up again two years later. And disregard A2A entirely. Slashy (1:48 AM): he gets two years, then he really should meet the 4400 who has sent him into the past in the first place Slashy (1:49 AM): possibly someone who disappeared in the 70's Slashy (1:49 AM): someone whose case he most likely works while he's there Slashy (1:51 AM): and she -- I don't know why it's a girl -- has the memories of how much effort he put into finding her, even though it was impossible Tessa-san (1:51 AM): sam <3 Slashy (1:52 AM): he WOULD. Gene would protest after about, oh, a week. Sam would contine to work the case for another two months. Gene would yell. A lot. And make him do it in his spare time. And he WOULD. Tessa-san (1:53 AM): he would Slashy (1:53 AM): and if there were actual leads, and it wasn't a kidnapping from the future, he would fucking well find that missing person. Slashy (1:59 AM): where was Spike in the 70's? Slashy (2:02 AM): 77, NYC, looking ridiculous. the rest of the 70's, the wiki has no information. can I has him in my Life on Mars? Can I, can I, can I? Tessa-san (2:03 AM): YES Tessa-san (2:03 AM): a thousand times Tessa-san (2:03 AM): yes Slashy (2:04 AM): can I has he be the perp Sam and Gene are after? Tessa-san (2:09 AM): yes Slashy (2:11 AM): so, should they catch him and he escapes jail, or should be get away? Tessa-san (2:23 AM): get caught Slashy (2:24 AM): I'm trying to figure out what Spike did to draw the attention of Sam and Gene Tessa-san (2:25 AM): I'm picturing him holding up a shopping centre Tessa-san (2:25 AM): I don't know why, because that seems dumb Slashy (2:26 AM): maybe will hostages Slashy (2:26 AM): and death Tessa-san (2:26 AM): yes Slashy (2:26 AM): that makes it less dumb Slashy (2:30 AM): gah. problem with the buffyverse being that to really outline anything 08 to 10 I have to actually fill in the timeline for 04 through 08 Slashy (2:31 AM): four years of outline and there aren't enough shows set in that period that I could add Slashy (2:32 AM): SURELY there was television set in 04, 05, 06, 07, 08... that's five years. MATHS, I am bad at them. Tessa-san (2:32 AM): just none that's brit-set Tessa-san (2:33 AM): at least, none that you're not already using Slashy (2:33 AM): actually, I need America-set shows for the buffyverse Slashy (2:34 AM): Buffy/Angel, Tru Calling, and the 4400 are all America-set and they're the ones I need to run up to where I need to be Slashy (2:52 AM): you'd think I'd know enough telly programmes to know something that ended with the canon between 04 and 08 Slashy (2:52 AM): but NO Slashy (2:55 AM): I can come up with *maybe* one - Moment: every time you send me links, I end up stuck over there for HOURS, dammit Tessa-san: I am toooooooooooo Moment: that's where i did most of the later whoniverse cvs research. because at least then I managed to make it PRODUCTIVE. Moment: I can't DO that anymore Moment: there's not enough time travel, I was about to say. And then I went "Jenny. leapingSam. QLSam stuck in earlyJack's body. Jack. The whole bloody New Time Agency." How on Earth did I forget THAT MUCH time travel? ~ 1 Feb 2007 - Age of Steel/Rise of the Cybermen, TWP operating publicly ^There is no way there are three years between Rise of the Cybermen and Army of Ghosts.. Just no. Which means it was 07 in N-Space, so 2010 in Pete's World. Sense-making? May 2010 - Army of Ghosts/Doomsday, Britain is a People's Republic, Harriet Jones is pressie Feb 2011 - Rose has joined TWP, beach scene from Doomsday 2013/4 - Rose of JE, TWP taken over by gov. after the full extent of their activities is exposed How does Torchwood exist in Pete's World? One of the reality differences is that Queen Vicky died when the werewolf attacked, because there was no Doctor to save her. Other differences include: high tech ads, EarPods, zeppelins (there was no Hindenburg disaster) the 4400 ends in early 08. I can make this work. Pete's World IS the buffyverse, rather than being a part of the whoniverse. this means I can elaborate and do many other things with it. it also gives me a bit more brit-setness Life on Mars left off early 2007, so giving Sam his two years means I can't pick it up until 2009. and the timespan I've got in the past is 74 to 76. okay then. paleoDaniel and Primeval. it would be nice if we could revert to Claudia Brown's Primeval. as many differences as possible, y'know. means whatever happened to make Claudia disappear needs to be reversed. Accidental past changing. easy. first thing, we revert to universe to Claudia. the ARC is a part of TWP this time - instead of forming the ARC it merged with the London 4400 Center when the American 4400 Centers shut down. the merged unit is the beginning of TWP. doing a reboot like this means I don't have to really worry about the 4400's timeline not meshing properly when, eventually, the universe spanning anomaly comes, Nick will identify with the other group. cloneNick: Claudia? I thought- realNick: Yeah... Jenny Lewis? Connor: She quit. After you... died. Nicks: o.O So after Claudia, we get paleoDaniel. This would have been early 2007. March is when S2 ended. so the six months of anomaly team pre-Helen and clones, it MIGHT extend into 2008 TWP is, of course, a public operation already, as it works with the 4400's and I assume "other odd phenomena" nonspecific, with certain aspects -- like anomaly research -- kept secret. they work with but are not owned by Cybus Industies, and sometime during/after the war with the cybermen (cyberwar, from now on) they must distance themselves so if the anomalies span both universes, Altrusia must be adjacent to both. (pulling it from either base and sticking it between them) which means the two Helen Cutter's might have met. in Altrusia, for instance, in Helen1's cloning lab before Connor and Abby show up and steal her cloneNick and cloneStephen. Helen2 is less psychotic than Helen1. she sees Nick distraught after Stephen's death and leads him through an anomaly to get him a Claudia back. because she saw Helen1's future, probably using a Pylon, and saw that the world with a happy Nick Cutter in it is doing okay. so that's the track she's on. of course, she's not at all healthy, so she goes about trying to make Nick happy in all the wrong ways. like taking over Helen1's cloning lab and making him multiple copies of Stephen, when she sees that the Claudia isn't working should Claudia stay with the anomaly research division of TWP after the clones arrive? How awkward will THAT be? oh... when does Altrusia implode? Dec. 2012, whoniverse time. which means 2015. staff will need to be redistributed to the other TWP brances. these include: 4400 cender, Time-Space Research -- holds the NQM (NQM opens after JE Rose. so 2013/4. can only be open a couple months before Thirteen closes it) -- Spaceships and Sattelites, a weapons division, and PR which also covers alien encounters and diplomacy. alien artefacts are usually shunted to "weapons" which is probably not called that. prolly called "Technologies". TSR is where anomaly research is located. so let's look at TWP: Technologies is where Handy and group usually are. altIanto and altLisa, along with the Donna's are usually PR. S&S is the bit that Cybus Industries did-- it's absorbed into TSR and Technologies after the cyberwar. Donna ends up in TSR during the NQM era, but not for long after? or she could stay. or quit to be w/her children. she does have two now: Temyxe and Queel okay gotta go back some more: Primeval is the first of the britset shows here. even LoM doesn't pick up till later. which means we need to follow TSR. Sherlock is in 2010, but before the cyberwar.. or maybe after, since all the superhightech stuff would have been shut off during the war until they were sure it wasn't also evil. so then it's set as played, end of July to beginning of August. can't do anything with it until then, so it's just primeval and the 4400 center devision... which is called? oh! when did promicin hit the market? pre- or post- shut down? we know the scientists knew about promicin from the beginning, though. after it was revealed to the public, but before distribution. that was when they closed. so maybe Britain never had 4400 Centers as such. maybe the British government was BETTER. so their center is a combination of the Center and their versions of NTAC and the super soldiers project. TSR merged with that. it's called the Promicin Abilities Research Center. so for reference: TSR = Primeval, PARC = 4400, TWP = Technologies (is it weird that I want Lorne from Angel to join the PR version?) and the name Torchwood Institute applies to them all. so they end up becoming the Torchwood Institute Department of Time-Space Research, the Torchwood Institute Promicin Abilities Research Center, the Torchwood Institute Technologies Division. And whatever PR is called. I think it might just be PR, and class it as a part of all of them. PR officers are assigned to departments, rather than being their own. so Claudia is TSR's, for a bit. so is one of the Donnas during the NQM era. I feel like I should be doing something with PARC, but I don't have any British 4400's and no one else to make P+, I need a britset show set around 2007. or. wait. Tesla will eventually succumb to Being Human vampirism, but he might want to experiment with promicin, if/when he discovered it's existance. I'd thought his trips would be brief visits, but I think they're more like Lydia's visits. so the Portal be opens from the casevers -- that then leads to the gateverse -- must be picked up by TSR. after the initial inquiry and stuff, Tesla would go to PARC and Henry to Technologies, where they will work happily for a few months. Let's say this is during the six months. so Tesla'n'Henry are gone by the time Helen and the clones show up. I think they should make a Hasty Escape because Lorne (did I mentions? yes, I did) joins and notices Tesla's take-over-the-world tendencies. why does he join? because after working w/AI anything too normal would be boring. so he works mainly w/PARC, but everyone has to go see him ever few weeks to make sure they're not evil don't worry, I'll update the timeline myself. prolly so the cyberwar was only a few months long. and what about Mickey? he was part of TWP until JE, right? a good chunk of time on the non-britset track, Jake 2.0 fits this base. his weird little unit could merge w/NTAC now that there's Promise City to worrry about. I need to rewatch the last coupel episodes of The 4400 so be sure of what's going on in there do you suppose Suzee could do her telepathy through the Portal? if she could, would she be able to get back? I don't want her to wind up in the gatevers, so it must be closed from that side after Magnus goes through. so it's a one-way portal from the caseverse. what happens to Suzee? on either side? how long can her body go without that part of her brain? lay it's more than a week or two. let's say she could go indefinitely, but she's be a little bit... muted. a little more ordinary. she could go on as normal, after coping with her loss like losing a limb. what about her mind? it won't just vanish if it's not possessing someone, of course not. that would be silly. the reason we don't want her in the gateverse is? that the way she is now, she'd translate as ascended, like Astrid did. she's right now more like Owen. she can hang around for a bit, possessing people when necessary. that sounds weird, but you knwo what I mean ...hey. wait a second. why doesn't the body come through after her once it was determined she couldn't come back? so it's not a one-way Portal, then. the Trinket is confiscated and put in the Room, and the Portals all close one by one. mindSuzee is trapped. eventually she gets back and she and her body have difficulty reconnecting because of how much they've both changed. I want Sofiana to be with the mind. ohohoh! they aren't dating yet. Sofiana falls through by accidenct while it's still flashing at them instability (before this they've determined that the Portal is dangerous to use) Suzee isn't close enough to actually go after her, but she meets Sofiana's eyes just long enough to make the jump. if Suzee's body also starts a relationship, something very interesting will happen when they reconnect. but before that, if Tesla'n'Henry's caseverse stay is when they decide to leave it alone, how long after that is this? by which I mean, how long after Tesla'n'Henry's escape do the Portals close? so Tesla'n'Henry go through to the gateverse and how long after that do they get caught? maybe a month? two? more? must be more. it should be after Helen and the clones. which is Nov 2007, so let's let this be the beginning of 08. Sofiana and mindSuzee fall through. they are definitely old enough -- and weird enough -- to join one of the Torchwood brances. heh, in the whoniverse it's "branches" as in different countries, in the buffyverse it's "branches" as in departments. I think they'd stay with TSR, anyway, in the hopes of finding a way home. which they will eventually will. this must all be a bit after Elmira joins the crew, so she can have a premoniton about it. so far nothing outside of people shuffling has really *happened*. that really needs to be fixed. so. the Cat-Suzee swap can't be the first thing to happen to them. I know a few things about the caseverse that are Tatey-chan's fanon. like the Doppleganger being an old Spung bioweapon, so all the Spung are actually evil twins, except the Oracles, who are immune. do children born to evil twins turn out evil? they must, if the evil Spung don't realize they're evil twins, or, rather, descended from evil twins. Oracles would have been immune to start with and now pop up sporadically in the popuation. which means they'd always been imprisoned and enslaved, they'd always be GOOD. I am guilty of entertaining the idea that only female Spung could be Oracles, but that is ridiculous and I know it. I want Elmira to have a brother, a twin who is also an Oracle. they were separated a long time ago, and she wants to find him. (once they do, he'll be Suzee's other and he'll see mindSuzee and Sofiana's return and tell Suzee there will be three of them, and she will be freaked cos she'll assume he means she'll get preggo.) I want to say that Spung are bad at naming so the twins were Elmira and Elmir, but that would confuse ME. So. Shiram. Elmira and Shiram. he calls her Mira, she calls him Shir. but I'm getting ahead of myself. I actually really liked her Jewel State story idea. I'm not entirely sure how much I'd have to modify it to go with the universe I've created. okay, I have her notes. a long time ago, before the Rigellian Migration, Rigellian scientists attempted to harness the energy of a nearby dying star to bore a hole into another universe. they succeeded, but their tampering triggered a supernova. all the scientists were lost, and radiation from the supernova gave some Rigellians their telepathic ability to connect to Yensidians. it also gave them the Jewel State. a minority of the ones who could connect to Yensidians got it. it was a symbbiotic thing, a freak accident. when they reached a certain point, the Rigellian's body crystallized and the crystal resonated in such a way that the Rigellian's mind was catapulted permanently into their Yensidian counterpart. over time the traits disappeared, as they were recessive genes. it was such a weird and short occurance that it eventually faded from Rigellian memory. Yensidian's, however, still study it in their history. so Suzee will recognize it when it starts happening to Cat, after the swap. after Cat/Harlan starts, or maybe while it's happening, if it's soon enough after she gets back so she gets back, and she and Harlan are kind of awkward in that *on the way to something* way. so one adventure, then Cat starts to Jewel State (have I mentioned yet how much I love that? you, Tatey-chan, are awesome) and Suzee things that *maybe* it would stop if the "connection broke" -- if they were in the same universe. so she has to find a way to get herself there without switching them. so she says goodbye to her family and does what needs to get done. no wonder Suzee's family are so nice to Cat. they've always expected her, by way of the Jewel State. so when Suzee goes to prevent it, they will be so annoyed. but we're still too far ahead. there need to be a couple Suzee adventures before the swap, they've just left Pezu the last time we saw them, eventually the time-space scar blocking her communication with Cat (I've decided that that's why we never saw Suzee talking to Cat, despite her claims that it was only something in Kareesh 9's atmosphere blocking her) has to heal. or maybe she jumpstarts it during the swap -- meaning it's sporadic and difficult to do until then. so maybe she'll see her once, in the second adventure, for about one conversation, and not be able to do it again. but she'll be able to tell everyone that Cat's okay. the thing I've noticed about Cat and Suzee is that when Cat is around, she needs Suzee. but Suzee has never actually *needed* Cat. so what if she did? what if Suzee were in a situation where she needed Catalina, and Cat wasn't there to help her. so Suzee loses... something. nothing vital, no lives or anything, but something. and she's complaining, about how the one time she needed Cat, she wasn't there. and that's when Cat appears, just for a bit. call that the end of the first story. so Suzee tells them about it at the beginning of the next story. but I don't have actual story to go with this story. so Suzee alone is the first pre-swap story. so what's going on there. no spung yet, because we just left Shank with Pezu. can't be Reaver because we won't see him until the Master kills him er, actually. no. reasons he couldn't be around before that? yeah, that's what I thought. so they make a stop at a spaceport. there is a mall, so the kids go looking around. while they're there, Reaver kidnaps Suzee. her telepathic abilities make her valuable, and he's going to sell her. after, y'know, training her so she's sellable. he blindfolds her, so she can't do the possession thing to him again. if Cat were there, she could direct Suzee's escape, but she's not so Suzee has to find her own way out. by the time the crew figures out what's happened, Reaver has already left. I can make this a two parter if they go after her but haven't caught up yet, and she escapes and steals a shuttle. leave her in the shuttle as of the end of part one and pick up from there in part two. so it's obviously not a blindfold or it wouldn't be such a big deal. he must actually make her temporarily blind. poor Suzee. so she's flying her escape shuttle, blind, when she manages to talk to Cat for a bit. she'll be blind for the rest of this adventure. so Reaver is in pursuit of her, and the Christa is in pusuit of both of them. then in part two Suzee is obviously caught up to by the crew and they escape Reaver somehow. ~ Slashy (11:37 PM): so Min looked at the list of crossoververse programmes today. And then she said to me: "You know, if Castle ever shadowed the Moff's Sherlock, the resulting book would be the most meta thing ever." Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): ... Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): holy Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): shit Slashy (11:37 PM): inorite? Slashy (11:38 PM): how did this thought never occur to any of us before? Raquel Tabor (11:38 PM): I do not know Slashy (11:48 PM): also, I have discovered that the timeline for the buffyverse starts in 04 and doesn't end until at LEAST 2019 Slashy (11:48 PM): that is what I get for neglecting it for so long. Raquel Tabor (11:49 PM): ... Raquel Tabor (11:49 PM): holy shit Slashy (11:50 PM): yeah. I forgot I'd have to take into account how Pete's World is running three years ahead of the whoniverse. Slashy (11:53 PM): starting so far back, however, means I don't only get to write TWP, I get to create it. I get to watch it form. (INTERWEBS)
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Post by Tate Icasa on Feb 21, 2011 20:11:45 GMT -5
Slashy (12:27 AM): so Min was looking through my notes, y'know, the ones I sent you? and she says "Y'know, about those two clones who don't die. Nick is pretty much monogamous guy. And there are two of them. And he would never, ever be able to choose one while the other was there." Raquel Tabor (12:28 AM): Lol. Min, always bringing logics into the equation Slashy (12:28 AM): and I was the sad, because two Stephens SHOULD lead to a threesome, but she's right and it can't. but then. Slashy (12:28 AM): then I had this thought. Slashy (12:30 AM): Helen would KNOW that. And this unhealthy version of Helen I have here, she wants to make Nick happy. So she would never, ever MAKE him choose. One of the clones has a self-destruct that only she can trigger. Raquel Tabor (12:30 AM): Well, isnt that cheerful Slashy (12:31 AM): cheerful, no. plot-tastic? oh yes ~ Learn a new language and get a new soul. ~Czech Proverb This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put. ~Attributed to Winston Churchill, rejecting the rule against ending a sentence with a preposition, c.1948, may instead have been said by an anonymous official - Robert Brault "Why was I born? I don't know -- beyond it being a rather obvious attempt to distract my attention." "Ever wonder what life form might be indicated by dinosaur bones if you ruled out dinosaurs?" "I don't know where my journey will take me, but I know that my body is 60% water, and like all water everywhere, it is on an inexorable journey back to the sea." "Love is not a difficult concept. If you can understand living in a parallel universe, you can understand being in love." "The key to compassion is to realize that everyone you meet is a set of extenuating circumstances." My last words, which I've instructed my wife to read to the mourners at my graveside, will be as follows: "All are invited to a reception at our home, which I have strongly encouraged Joan to use as an opportunity to meet men." the lesson of human progress is that a thing is only impossible until it becomes inevitable." An obit idea I bequeath to anyone who wishes to use it: "She leaves her husband.., three children..., a brother.., a sister..., six grandchildren, several nephews and nieces, and many strangers who would have loved to know her." Scribbled on the wall of a prehistoric cave dwelling: "They who do not know history are condemned to start it." "Time is a figure eight, at its center the city of Deja Vu." - And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier. Stop this day and night with me and you shall possess the origin of all poems, You shall possess the good of the earth and sun, (there are millions of suns left,) ~ Song of Myself, Walt Whitman - John Alejandro King The last person in the world you should be sleeping with is still a person you should be sleeping with. Whenever I hear someone say, ‘Where I come from, we always left our front door unlocked at night,’ I ask that person to close their eyes for a moment. Then I say to them: ‘Yeah, I remember you now.’ The only alternative to coexistence is co-extinction. And even then, the difference is mostly packaging. Is it good news or bad news that my personal demons are all afraid of me? Youth declares 'It fell.' Maturity confesses 'I dropped it.' Wisdom affirms 'It fell.' - "Math does NOT rule the world, it only gives us the ability to count things and use a currency. In truth, it's all about English and language in general. With English, you can look at a stop sign, see that it says STOP and then avoid running into a tree. With Math, you can look at the same stop sign and see that it is clearly an octogon, and then careen into the tree. So which would you rather?" -Moocher, in a heated debate about Math and English with her Music teacher. "Some people say there's no such thing as too much entertainment. I don't know these people, I just made them up to prove my point. But I think Moocher's had too much entertainment." -- Buttons "Girls don't have names like Gizmo! They're Daisy! And Buttermilk! And... JULIA!" -- Ducks "Work with someone you like, and hopefully you won't want to set them on fire." -Wills "Attention! Attention! Oh how I love attention! By that I mean - SHUT THE HELL UP!" -Gray "If someone's on fire: only I'm allowed to use the fire blanket. Unless of course, I'm on fire. In which case, feel free to save me." -Wills "No, children. Death is not an emotion." ~ the student teacher in my drama class. Success isn't a result of spontaneous combustion. You must set yourself on fire. ~Arnold H. Glasow You like someone because; you love someone although. ~Unknown "What are we doing today?" "It's on the board, you know." "I refuse to read it. What are we doing today?"--some kids in my Biology class.. "You're priorities are unbelievably askew." "...you like using big words, don't you?" "Askew is a five-letter word!"--me, in Spanish class, trying to teach English to a Sophmore... "My door swings in all directions"-- my neighbor, which is kinda freaky... "Trust is like a fallen leaf. Take good care and it will stay intact. Be careless and it will be easily crushed and unable to be put back together. Trust is very fragile. Treat is as such."-- my friend's speech, which she was using to try and teach my brothers... trust. "But why would you want to take care of a dead leaf?" -- my brothers after hearing my friend's speech on trust. "I lost it!" "What did you loose?" "I dunno, but whatever it is, it's gone."-- me and Hilary... who was freaking me out again... "You can't ignore the facts, Hun." "You'd be surprised what he can ignore" -- Katie and me making fun of Dillan. "Is this another 'I-told-you-so' from you guys?" "Nope, we just wanted to tell you that we were right." -- Katie and me on one side, Lacey on the other. Ethan: Actually mom, maybe you should just focus on driving. - Delana: "Why don't we eat dogs?" Mom: "Well, cause they are smart and cute and they are our friends." Delana: "Do we eat dolphins?" Mom: "No, dolphins are smart too. So we don't eat them" Delana: "We eat people?" Mom: "No, we don't eat people. Ever." Delana: "Why not? If somebody dies, then we can eat them? Like if they are going across the road and get hit by a car?" Mom: "People are special. Really special. We never, ever eat them." Delana: "Yeah, but some ladies are dumb." - "I wouldn't say that if I were you." to which he replied "If I were you, I wouldn't have said it." When arguing with your significant other: "Do you want to be happy or do you want to be right?" Wedding toast: "may all your ups and downs be under the sheets!" I had this idea, so let me run it by you: what if Dinotopia weren't a part of the whoniverse base. or, rather, not JUST a part of the whoniverse. not quite a place all it's own, like Altrusia, but not quite separate enough to stop people from randomly falling in from either one. it could, I imagine, be accessed via Altrusia. might even have it's own Pylon somewhere. that way I could use it properly, rather than just as a dumping ground. I'll count it with Altrusia, as a part of that world, as if they were a weird base all to themselves. I'll label it the Otherverse. even if that is silly. I'll even do the separation myself, from the storysheets and everything. Henry and Tesla were May. Is there already a Technologies Division? Prolly not. So Tesla will go to PARC, but Henry will stay with TSR. He and Connor can be tech buddies. so something non-Anomalous must happen and the two of them, and the rest of TSR, deal with it. this should definitely be aliens. Maybe Enik's City? It should totally be Enik's city. fuck, who did the whoniverse contact with them? the ARC, in 2009 WST, which is 2012 BST, and it was disclosed to the public in 2011 WST, which is 2014 BST. I think the city - which is on the planet Altrusia, not the closed universe model. the planet Altrusia is a point of dimensional instability, a dimensional hub. so it can have contact with both worlds. the city needs a name. Caspell? Samrielle? No. How about Amura? Okay then. now, Altrusia is a planet of two species. the reptilian Altrusians like Enik, and the human-like ones like the Builder. they co-exist fine. so, okay, the thing that causes the TSR contact? it should be a ring, like the one that helped Chaka evolve. that's what they do, boost evolution. so someone takes one and runs -- it should be Blackie, older than when he was the Builder, but not completely an adult. he has a similar problem to the Rani's, but benevolent where hers is malevolent. he's always getting into trouble for "interference". so he grabs a ring and goes through a doorway. this time it won't be his parents who come after him, it will be official government folks. anyway, he comes through and is using the ring to supplement evolution in homeless people. he's creating merfolk. and is caught by TSR. the gov. guys take him and ring and begin diplomatic talks with TSR. TSR must announce that there are merfok in the Thames, which with 4400s running about, shouldn't cause too much of a stir. Here are a few dinosaurs and their information. You can pick and choose where to put them in the TSR timeline. files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000323-25129260c5/batrachognathus.jpgdescribed only in 1948 estimated 75cm wingspan insectivorous no fossil yet found has a tail, so tail existance debated. this thing is quite creepy looking files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000404-81d8c82d2a/tanystropheus.jpgDiscovered in 1886 around 20 feet long, it is also a fairly good sized species over half it's length is comprised of it's neck at around 10 feet long largely aquatic had only 10 neck vertebrae middle of the Triassic period snatch fish from the water while sitting out of the water neck used like softshell turtles, stuck out to get a breath Loch Ness monster, Clary. srsly. that is how you should use this. files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000762-43569444ff/amargasaurus2.jpgexcessively long spikes on it's neck means "Bitter Lizard" Amarga is also the name of the place the fossils were found short necks and identifying neck spines that extend down the back, getting gradually smaller about 33 feet long and sported two rows of long spines down it's neck the neck spines supported a sail of skin, not a widely accepted theory paleoDaniel so believes that theory. and is right. you know it. files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000769-31e1032d08/cryolophosaurus2.jpgearly Jurassic period excavated in 1991 in Antartica "Cold Crest Lizard", discovery in Antartica and unique crest feature on head crest gave nickname "Elvisaurus" cos of resemblence to Elvis' haircut at least 21 feet long, just over 1,000 lbs crest too fragile for combat, likely used for display purpose unknown if the crest is a feature of just one sex or of both how much do you wanna bet they keep one and actually call it Elvisaurus and the like? files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000663-dbfd3dcf73/baryonyx2.jpg1983 first specimen discovered in a clay pit just south of Dorking, England 28 feet long and approx 1,700 kg early Cretaceous 14 inch claw-thumb diet consisted mainly of fish skull contained 96 teeth, 64 in the bottom jaw and 32 larger ones in the top jaw. no evidence of dorsal spines believed by some that the snout had a small crest on it sat on the banks of rivers and caught fish like a grizzly one report from Cameroon of a sighting files.truedinos.webnode.com/200000267-1edb21fd54/Therizinosaurus1.jpgdiscovered in the 1940's large claws resemble scythes, can reach lengths of 1 meter resembling a large wallaby and having a turtles head. So. June = Blackie and the ring July =Batrachognathus August = Tanystropheus, Loch Ness October = Amargasaurus, also when the first clone dies, I'll get to it in a minute the fact that Primeval and the way it's done can do mythology, and the fact that magic exists in the buffyverse, kind of makes me want a unicorn to come through. a real, proper one. not an evil one like Rainbow. the clones must be all different in some way. they mustn't be identical. so three of them, cloned from different points. different timelines, if you will. so oneStephen is the one who remembers dying in that room, twoStephen is the one who remembers Claudia Brown and who didn't sleep with a version of Helen, threeStephen is from a world where Nick and Helen were never married and things were easy for Nick/Stephen. it will oh so definitely be threeStephen who dies. y'know, just as soon as Nick figures it out, and comes to terms with the fact that he's in love with Stephen. after watching him die. Twice. Just wait, there is more trauma on the way. threeStephen obvs dies saving Nick's life, and Helen always planned for that. Helen is clever. Unhealthy, fucked in the head, but clever. so there are still two Stephens running about. Min pointed out to me that Nick (real Nick, whose mind was never altered by evilHelen) is kind of a monogamous guy. so as pretty as it would be there would never be a threeway relationship there. and Nick is hardly going to choose one Stephen over the other. but Helen already knew that. one of the Stephen's has a self-destruct built into it's DNA, and Helen can activate it. And she will. cos she's around and looking twisted but almost reformed enough to stay, by which I mean not actively trying to escape containment, and once she sees that Nick is "ready" she activates it. (it takes a few days to actually have an effect, it's not instantaneous). "I could never make you choose," she says. And then she escapes and disappears. he assumes she means choosing between her (his wife) and Stephen, cos that's always been hanging over them. but it's actually much more sinister than that, which he will realize when the clone with the self-destruct starts to get ill and then dies. (of course it's more sinister than that. given the choice between Stephen and Helen, which would you choose?) which of the clones would Helen choose to self-destruct? Well, she wants to make him happy, right? Now, he's shared a universe with both the originals of oneStephen and twoStephen. now, oneStephen is the one he had all the problems with in series two. sure they came out of it okay, or would have if Stephen hadn't died, but. That Stephen had an affair with Helen, and multiple trust issues, and was very screwed up. And only shared a universe with him for one year. meanwhile twoStephen is the one he always knew. The one he "lost" when the universe erased Claudia. Nick obviously doesn't see it as quite so clear a separation, but Helen does. So if she had to choose for him, I think she'd choose twoStephen. That whole, there are zeppelins in Pete's World because there was no Hindenburg disaster... you're so sending one of your time travellers there, right? due South ran until 1999. Bear with me for a tick while I run through an idea "outloud". I have a few time travellers running around. do you remember that Time Saving Device that was storing peoples time for sinister uses by Air Canada executives? Seriously, purely the fact that it was Air Canada gave me this idea. But I'm running with it. Obviously that would happen to be there and evil while Fraser and Kowalski are coming back from their great adventure. then, later. Altrusia doesn't always snag people in order anymore. the timeframes haven't matched up for quite some time. so Fraser, Kowalski, *and* Vecchio (I am a *fan* of the threesome) can end up in there. because it's a closed universe and groups of three it seems to be. they can stay there a bit then end up in completely the wrong timeframe when they get out. The only problem I see is that I'm imagining Fraser with a 4400 abilility (I've no idea what, but come ON), and you just KNOW he'd never take the shot while it's outlawed. Never fear, though, I have a solution in mind. okay, y'know how you want to send the threesome to Altrusia? do that LATER. have Fraser actually BE a 4400. people were taken right up until three months before the Return. so have him disappear, almost as soon as the time traveller leaves the Air Canada story. have that be the next one. have the Rays working together to try to find him. get the threesome starting with them. then, later, after the Return, have the three of them fall into Altrusia. ...Vecchio and Kowalski both want the shot but Fraser won't let them. Because it is illegal and they are cops. What sort of ability WOULD he get? I so want to say communing with animals. Because after Dief, just... *imagine* that in Altrusia. That is spectacular. It's not actually telepathy, not like words. More like what the non-evil Angels use on the gateverse I haven't even figured out what time period in Altrusia this is. There's plenty of free space in the eighties. and through bits of the 70's and 90's. not much, but some. Well, how long do you plan on having them there? I don't know. A few months. It must be sometime after the Time Lords all leave, I know that much. Well, do you want them with Chaka, or with Christa and Stink, or during that period inbetween where Chaka becomes Ka and the Pakuni need freeing from the Sleestak? Let's be honest. If there's a revolution against injustice going on, Fraser's going to be in the middle of it. So it must be during Ka's rebellion. Stink may have been born, but only just barely. We don't have very much information about this rebellion or how we got to the point where one was necessary. This has to be before youngChrista comes through, because she and Stink are raised together. Right? So how short must Pakuni lives have been, that Chaka has a grandson within three years of the Marshall's leaving? We have a problem in that neither of us SAW any of the episodes in which Christa's backstory were revealed. I've looked it up in the wiki and you have a LOT of work to do. Christa (played by Shannon Day): Like the Porters, the beautiful cave-girl Christa is from San Francisco back on Earth but was born in Chicago. Her family was trapped in the Land of the Lost through similar circumstances to the Porters. At one point, Christa's family built a raft to try and sail to the other side of the ocean, hoping to find signs of civilization. In a subsequent storm, Christa was washed overboard but found refuge on a floating treetrunk where after several days of drifting she found her way to a far away beach. Separated from her parents, Christa grew up practically alone, and by the time the Porters met her, had repressed almost everything about her previous life. She is fiercely independent and feels safe and at home in the jungle. However, she's not oblivious to its many dangers and uses her knowledge of its topography, inhabitants, and various medicinal plants to aid the Porters whenever she can. She is fluent in Pakuni often greeting her human friends with "Acuba Ne" to express either "hello" or "goodbye". She is like an older sister to Annie and the object of Kevin's infatuation. Flashbacks of Christa as a child were seen in "Life's a Beach". Young Christa was played Farrah Emami. Stink (played by Bobby Porter): Stink is a Paku, whose parents died as slaves in Shung's crystal mine when he was very young. Some time later, he met Christa as a little girl and they helped each other to survive becoming inseparable friends. Despite his animal-like appearance, Stink is very intelligent, with an intense knowledge of plant and animal life. He is also extremely adaptable and quickly picks up modern slang, idioms, and mannerisms from his human friends although sometimes he uses them inappropriately. He is gifted with keen senses, incredible agility, insatiable curiosity, and a wacky sense of humor. Stink is very close to Annie. The two of them often work and play together, even teaming up against her brother and father. Stink has an easy friendship with Kevin as well, and sometimes a not-easy friendship with Tasha. Possibly because of his ape-like ancestry, Stink has an affinity for bananas and suinaku fruit, as well as a fear of termites. Opah (played by Jonas Moscartolo): An elderly grey-haired Paku and Stink's grandfather. Opah taught Stink almost everything he knows about the Land and its native flora and fauna. He carries a flute which allows him to "charm" Scarface and other beasts (much like a snake-charmer) and passes both the instrument and the knowledge onto his grandson before he leaves to die. He also shows the Porters how to tap certain trees which contain a special sap which they can use to fuel the truck. The youngChrista in "Life's a Beach" is older than I expected. I always thought Christa was three or four when she was there, so that's what I planned for, but she was older. Six-ish, I think. So here's what I think happened: youngChrista goes through the anomaly. she is very young and cannot survive in Altrusia for long. fortunately for her, Fraser and the Rays come through and find her. she lives with them for a bit before they manage to get back home and she is adopted. then she and her adoptive family fall through *another* gateway, landing the Altrusia for Namaki to help build a boat. By this time she is older. she lives "on her own" for a couple years before a young Stink finds her. or she finds him that gives the Pakuni a bit longer to have things happen to them. if she's six on the beach, and *nine* when she and Stink meet, that's a long enough time period. so Chaka would have to become Ka almost as soon as the Marshall's left. In 77. he'd have found a mate. let's see, we have Ta, Sa, and Ka. Na or La? pick one for me. and they have a baby almost immediately, so mid-78. how soon does their daughter (who will be cha- of the other name) have a baby? tempted to say the girls get pregnant much faster than the boys might impregnate them, just cos, well, it would make sense. youngChrista comes through for the first time in 79, when she is 4. when she's six, she and her new family come through. the daughter would be 3 now, but the Pakuni mature faster than humans. this works out well. the Sleestak go underground around this time, abandoning the city. the Pakuni move in. then Shung and his group come up and enslave the Pakuni. in a couple years when the daughter is five, she will become pregnant with Stink. after giving birth Shung will want to eat her baby, because he is that freaking creepy, so she will try to run away and hide him in the woods. she'll get caught by Nim and Keeg, and she and her mate will die in the mines, but baby Stink who doesn't even have a name will be fine. Opah will find him and take care of him for about a year. then a nine year old Christa will find him and they'll become inseperable, and Opah will take off for god knows where. Ka's mate should be La, and their daughter Chana. When and where, exactly, do Fraser and the Rays gateways open up? well, the first one from either Canada or Chicago. They must leave before Promise City, and come back after. That would explain why they don't keep youngChrista. ordinarily you know Fraser would probably adopt her himself, after living with her for between four and six months, but after Promise City 4400s will all be treated with suspicion. He wouldn't be allowed to. Heck, the Rays will barely have a choice to stay with him, but they are adults and therefore do get to make their own decisions. so youngChrista would be taken from them almost immediately. and then get adopted. I haven't decided where that one, the one they come out of, is going to be yet. any ideas? if Fraser disappears before Promise City and there's a crackdown on 4400s in that time, he'd need to have been counted with them and due to being in Altrusia that wouldn't have happened. so let's say it was in Canada that they fell through, so maybe if they were far enough in the wilderness people would believe they just couldn't be found. then they reappear in the same place and are immediately brought back over the border. also, due South ends just before 2000, which is supposedly the "present" for Quantum Leap. There are already two versions, so it's definitely pan-universal, so there's no reason it couldn't exist. this version of Sam would be freeSam. (see how I've thought ahead and picked a modifier?) he'd have to appear to help them sometime before they fell into Altrusia. which he could so do. I often enjoy Sam/Al, but I am not *opposed* to them having straight relationships. along the way. for a bit. I've just got this image in my head of Sam Beckett and Frannie Vecchio. so he'd help them, and then decide to woo Frannie. by constantly jumping a bit into the future to woo her bit by bit all at once. she's Italian, she's clever, she's... forward. she'll remind him enough of Al that he can sublimate. they'll end up married. he's able to hide his time travel from her by making up a job that takes him rather far away for periods of time. meanwhile, while a couple months pass for her he'll just jump right from one "date" to the next. "I'm glad to see you. Are you glad to see me?" "I've thought of nothing else since we last met." See? it's...a bit dodgy, but cute. anyway, I think in this base the Accelerator triggered his P+ness. he can leap both ways, mind or body, now that he has control of it. the Programme obvs shut down after he left and Al is living with Beth and his daughters. if Sam woos Frannie fast enough, we can just settle them down and leave them until the timeline actually picks up again. y'know, once 4400's start appearing and freeSam realizes he's P+. He'll have to tell Frannie then. I wonder if he ever thought to contact Al once he settled down, or if he thought that was tempting fate. freeSam/Frannie is adorbs. He would of course be worried about tempting fate. so of course they'll eventually come upon each other by accident and both their marriages will go to HELL. I so want his thing with Beth to not last particularly long, because of Sam disappearing. their marriage can't withstand that. MAYBE a year. Tops. Know what I want to happen to him? Guess. You want Al/Stella. Don't think I don't know you. Obvs Stella's thing with Vecchio didn't last. after his marriage goes, Al travels. he meets Stella. Stella is a hell of a woman. one thing leads to another, and it doesn't last. certainly not after Sam comes back on the scene. Sam and Frannie build a nice little life together. it's got to be some years later that Sam and Al meet again. if Sam woos Frannie right, they'll be married by the end of 2000 beginning of 2001. that means I can leave them alone until the re-meet. I'll have to pick back up with them with the Return. because that is of course when Frannie gets ticked he never told her about the leaping and they will go through a rough patch. they should have at least one kid by then. they have a son. his name is Ben, which is short for Benjamin "Because the guy i'm married to would think it was weird if I named our son after the guy who steadfastly refused my advances. Even if he was my brother's best friend. And probably dead." Because Fraser is still missing, so far as they're concerned, and that means probably dead. so Benjamin Beckett is five when the Return happens. there should be another kid. a two year old. gender and name? Sam must be in contact with his family. No way he isn't. Katie and her husband are in Hawaii with their mum, and I've no idea where Tom and his wife are, but I KNOW he's talking to them. So how does he avoid contacting Al by accident way before I need him to? Were they even so close in this timeline? If Al was still with Beth when they met, it wouldn't have been so desperate, so *vital*. oh, they both have memories of the way it *first* happened, but in this timeline, were they really that close? friends, for sure, but not... so Al might have told the family about Sam's disappearance, but he wouldn't have kept in touch with them. Oh... of *course*. Tatey-chan, you are a genius. They aren't as close as they remember. A girl. Anne Beckett? ... speaking of kids, whatever happened to Sammy Jo? I've mentioned her not once on any of the bases, and that is a tragic oversite. here, at least, that must be fixed. Oh, Sammy Jo. Right. I always forget about Sammy Jo. She's as smart as Sam, she must be doing something important. Working for SOME top secret government progamme or something. But if she's anything like her dad, she'd not be on the government's side versus the 4400s. She probably wouldn't be on Jordan's either. Maybe she's not on a side. Maybe she's brought into NTAC along with the Jake 2.0 guys. As a part of Jake's unit. She and the cute doctor whose name I can NEVER remember, they are friends from school. Dr. Diane Hughes. I don't know why I always have to look that up. I always remember the ACTRESS' name. (Keegan Connor Tracy, btw) As soon as Sam stepped into the Accelorator, Al/Beth was over. Everyone pretty much knows that already. It might have taken a bit of time, but it's true. So how many ex wives does he already have when he and Stella meet? Oh, at least one more. It is SO wrong that I want Sammy Jo to be that one, right? Because she doesn't know she's Sam's daughter, but Al does, and you're sublimating anyway? ...I love you. Of *course* it's Sammy Jo. Which Sam will be less than thrilled about once he works it out. They will both be completely freaked out once the sublimating comes to an end. so who would adopt youngChrista? it should be someone we know, so what het couples do we have in America who could adopt, then lose the kid, and continue on without getting her back? it would have to be someone who would go into it knowing it was temporary. they don't have to figure it out for themselves, just have someone they trust tell them. I want it to be Xander and his whoever I haven't worked out anything about Namaki yet, but y'know where Keela would be great? In the buffyverse Deep Past, after the repeal of the anti-magic law. She's a sorceress looking for a court. And we know at least one gateway has already opened up there, because Sir Balen came through from Arthurian times. I don't know WHEN she'll go, because I kind of want to use her a bit in Altrusia, but that is where she will end up. Okay, it would probably be easiest to find a place on the timeline for the two Merlin mythicals. And decide when *in Merlin's timeline* you want Keela to come through. We want them in an opposite order. The Draig Coch story will be rewritten, as all the legends used in Merlin are re-written. This is after Arthur is King, but before the repeal of the anti-magic laws. King whatsisface is a neighboring king, and when his advisors tell him that thing, they kidnap Merlin -- who is King Arthur's favourite servant, but I haven't got them to the slash by this point, yet -- and intend to sacrifice them. Obviously after the two dragons are freed, the red one which is a girl wins and leaves the land and Arthur is furious and leads an army to kill the King. His son who ascends the throne is Drudwas, and he wants revenge on Arthur for killing his father. He doesn't get the Adar Llwch Gwin from a fairy wife, he gets them from someone else (trying to figure out how far I intend to let the canon remain unbroken) and the guy who takes the throne after him signs a peace treaty. there's probably more between those, like the repeal of the anti-magic law and the beginning of Arthur/Merlin, but that is the order those things have to be in. Keela comes through some time after that, of course. I can't follow Merlin forever, so when I get ready to stop I'll probably let her skip into the future and work with the Slayers. ...if she weren't so much older, I'd so want her to be with Xander. But she's already in her twenties, and at least one more year in Altrusia, and one more in the Deep Past, she's got almost ten years on him easy. In what way is that a problem? I distinctly recall seeing the phrase "the only age that matters is the age of consent". So you can just quit your whinging and make a decision. (Before I forget, though. When Keela comes through to the Buffyverse, she's in pursuit of Magas. Merlin totes helps her defeat him. Just saying.) That's totes happening, then. And she can see the future herself, when it comes to youngChrista. Buffy was in Rome, Andrew was too and he claimed she was dating the Immortal but he was probably lying, Willow and Kennedy are living together in South Africa mid-season five of Angel, Giles went to Europe with Buffy and Andrew was wasn't with them in Rome Wes died but I'm doing standard perpetuity clause on him and giving him a Lilah to tempt him, Angel, Spike and Illyria went off with Kcenanire the dragon to regroup also living but in unspecified places are Oz, Harmony (who I know is at one point working at and then owning a 4400 center), Drusilla, slayerFaith, electicityGwen, Nina, Groo, and Kate Lockley. do you remember those Devil Dogs that were mentioned once before with a 'do not tell the Moff' disclaimer? something about hearing them behind you but they can't get you if you don't look, or something like that. I looked it up. It's the Black Dog, also called the Black Shuck. Here we go: "Unsuspecting night walkers will first become aware of the pad pad sound of the hounds heavy paws. Out of the corner of their eye they may see a gathering darkness, which slowly forms into the outline of a huge hound. Lurking in the night shadows the beast is said to track the steps of its victim, drawing ever closer. Anyone unfortunate enough to turn around and meet its fiery gaze is said to die within a twelve month period." www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Gritherwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Bansheewww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Selkiewww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Mngwawww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Slender+Manwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Ciguapawww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Devalpawww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Djinnwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Asraiwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Green+Man%2C+Thewww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Trowswww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Gargoylewww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Hugtandalferswww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Lilimwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Nagas+%26+Naginiswww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Sandmanwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/SyraghI particularly like the first and last ones on this list, though I think they are all interesting enough that you could do great things. Of course, you could do great things with *anything*, so that's not really saying much. Oh, and this one for the Deep Past. Just saying. www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Adar+Llwch+GwinHere's a tonne more mythicals, btw. We're going to have to start going through them soon. On the plus side, you *should* have enough now to make it to at least 2006. so you can get the base programmes up to the Return, at which point you'll get to do some working in of 4400 abilities. www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Pengwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Charybdis and www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Scyllawww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Furieswww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Harpywww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Too+Jou+Shenwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Pegasuswww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Sphinxwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/The+Undinewww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Yggdrasilwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Manananggalwww.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Tikbalangen.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81_Bao_A_Quen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometzen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achiyalabopaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkan_Sonneyen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku_%28spirit%29en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ittan-momenen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinmenju" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miage-ny%C5%ABd%C5%en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokumokurenen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori_%28folklore%29-seki" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sessh%C5%-sekien.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_%28clam-monster%29Oh, and one for Merlin. www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/Draig+CochNFA is May, so we pick up in May 2004. Okay. On the Buffy side of the buffyverse. We need to follow Buffy, Willow, Xander, and Giles. Oz and Faith can be picked up when next they show up, but if you *want* to follow Faith it wouldn't be a bad idea. On the Angel side of things you have to follow Angel, Spike, and Illyria, in so much as they are AI and you follow them collectively. Kate Lockley and electricityGwen can both be picked up when they join that collective. The rest of that list doesn't need to be followed until they need to appear, but like Faith if you *wanted* to follow Wes you could. Okay, so. Buffy and Andrew were in Rome. They must rejoin one of the others. Doesn't matter which one, but make it one on that side of the ocean. So either Giles or Willow. Xander is still somewhere in the states, I think. I've no idea where Dawn is. Let's assume she's with Xander, because that's where Buffy would want her, rather and running around the world like the rest of them. Um... Buffy's group is to be labelled Slayers, and Xander's to be labelled Scoobies, and it will be combined into Slayers when Buffy's group comes back stateside. we have to have Willow and Kennedy go join Buffy somewhere in Europe. Let's say it's a scheduled meeting. You know, a check in to make sure everyone is okay. While there, Buffy gets a call about some stuff that needs to be done. Say, the Sphinx. She invites them along and they go, and from then on they stick together. Pick up with Giles returning to America. So you have him, Dawn, and Xander all in one place. He obviously meets them somewhere not-home, and when they all go home (wherever home is, the small house Xander and Dawn are renting) the word Grither is painted on the wall. Either Dawn or Xander says it out loud, and then Giles as the one who would know the story has to tell it. And the Grither has to actually show up and be frightening, but also has to actually leave without killing any of them. This was clearly a trap, but we don't know who from or why. (It is probably Ethan Rayne. And Giles probably knows this.) A Lilim would so be Xander's luck. According to the legend the way to defeat one is to make it fall in love with you. But if that were true them we'd have a lovestruck Lilim clinging to our group, and we don't want that. So modify it. It can only be defeated if you break it's heart. ... how you gonna label these for the storysheets? Right. Djinn. Obvs those lead-stoppered bottles are washing up on the sea. Probably not by accident, as one will land directly at Dawn's feet. There will be more, and they will be opened by other random folk, and they will all need to be stopped and recaptured. (This is the second trap Ethan Rayne has laid. It's a conspiracy.) At some point, we need to figure out what the conspiracy is. That's three. Here's the fourth: Manananggal. It is quite creepy. There would be reports, and Dawn would investigate. Whereupon she would find herself in grave danger and require rescuing. Nice. Five. Mokumokuren. Dawn obviously gets one of those paper sliding walls at a yardsale. It is already haunted. The eyes are creepy, and it whispers to her at night. When she tries to get rid of it, she can't. This is trap number three. They obviously rehab it, so it can hang about being awesome. So story number six is obviously Giles hunting down Ethan Rayne to find out what he wants. Dawn and Xander go with him part of the way, but he disappears. They call Buffy, and of course that group rushes back to the states. Part two is the beginning of January. The group catches up with Ethan and Giles, and Ethan is using a dreamstealer on him. It's a sluglike thing (like a Poot, actually I might even let it be called that) and it's wrapped around his head. keeping him unconscious while it feeds on his dreams and Ethan saps magic from him. He is obviously in the employ of a Sandman, for whatever reason, and the Sandman will wait until the Poot has finished devouring Giles's dreams and then eat the Poot. Obviously they get it off him before it finishes eating his dreams, so rather than leaving him braindead it just gives him amnesia. Ethan gets away, of course. So... Mngwa. They're overpopulated and taking out out whole villages, so they need to be hunted down. Erm, okay, switch this with the sphinx thing. Because it's obviously near where Willow and Kennedy start. So that should be the first one, and the sphinx the second. That makes sense. I don't think you actually need to start in the same place with everyone. You can start them in Nov, so they get the call after the sphinx. and then it's all together. So where are they? I know you've got them aquiring the NYC 4400 Center in mid-2006. So maybe they're in NYC? That way you don't have to move them later. we need to figure what everyone is doing, for a job. And how old everyone is. Buffy was born in 81, Dawn was 14 in 2000. The wiki doesn't say anything about Willow or Xander, but they must be about the same age as Buffy. The wiki claims that Kennedy was nineteen in S7. And speaking of Kennedy, her family is wealthy and from NYC. So maybe they have a second house that she's letting Xander and Dawn use? Because that would be sweet of her. So Buffy is 23, and Dawn is 18, so she should have graduated. She'll have to be in college in NYC then. Kennedy is now 20. It's a big enough place that when that group comes back they can also stay there. So they can use that as a base until they get the Center. Er, Xander and Keela are going to need to be living in San Fran at some later date. If Fraser and the Rays come through with them after Promise City, that means Xander and Keela need to be an item and in San Fran by mid-2008 early-2009. Keela should probably come through sometime in 2005. So what month do you want Keela to come through? We already have January, but no February. Get us a February story, then we can bring AI through to March so we can have everyone at the same point. There are Nagas and Naginis in the sewer. They're leaving Dawn rubies and surging out of manhole covers to protect her from things. She likes it, but it is bad. They are also doing creepy things with the weather, which need to be stopped. So, AI, June through the following March. June is when Jack and John are there, July is Kate Lockley, and September is electricityGwen. There aren't actually monsters set for those stories, Over in the caseverse. How old was everyone to start with? Radu was 11 and he was the youngest, but Rosie and Bova were 11 as well. Cat and Suzee were 14, and I always thought Harlan was Cat's age or a bit older, so call it 15. Sofiana was that age, and so was Elmira. But due to species differences they're all at the same maturity level. They have not, however, all hit puberty. the younger three still haven't. so have one of the kids hit puberty each year until they all have. there were 13 stories a season, so if we assume that's formula and each season is a year, that's one story every month with one month having an extra. since there are no actual dates, we're starting in january, and since I can't recall any yeardates, I'm just starting with "Three" and working on. that's fine. if it was 7 years and 5 months (rounded up) back in S1, then it was 6 in S2. I have the decision to not go back before Sofiana, right? It's silly. Give them a few years. So who would hit puberty first? Not Radu, cos he's youngest so should go last. Rosie. Ladies first. And here's how it works: On Mercury, her parents would absorb the excess energy she'll generate, but there are no adult Mercurians around. So she can't release it, and it's making her sick. to fix this she takes a Starling down to a nearby uninhabited moon. she goes alone, but someone follows her. has to be Bova. her plan is to release the energy and leave, but she damages the Starling and the energy causes the moon to start shaking apart. Bova manages to rig a magnetic lock between the two Starlings, using his electrical powers, but fortunately he has Rosie in his as the lock breaks in orbit. Davenport is glad they're safe but less than thrilled about the whole thing. must be before the Cat-Suzee swap, because both of them would try to go with Bova, but he has a better chance of convincing Suzee to stay. Okay. So after the Jewel State story. Bova's puberty. Before or after Sofiana? and how do you suppose it works? Before. I think it's to do with the antenna. It starts to chip away and then fall off, like a baby tooth. a new one would grow, but it would be painful, as such things are. how soon after this could Bova/Rosie be? ...why does Bova/Rosie have to start after they both hit puberty? It should start during Rosie's, after he saves her. She'll obvs kiss him in thanks and it will go from there. How about Radu? I think Andromeda puberty is, evolutionarily, about keeping the population down. so there's a week, and they lose all their "superpowers". on their homeworld that would kill about half of them, but on the Christa it's just scary. also all his hair falls out and he locks himself away because of that weather thing. they have to get him out because he'll so so much he'd freeze to death. this is some time before they decide to not go back. now, Elmira doesn't need upberty but I think she should shed her skin like a snake every few years. while Tesla'n'Henry are there. I have a rough timeline. I know you need to do a couple "Season long" story arcs. one about the Lumanians and one on the Spung. the Spung one should be to do with Elmira's brother, which isn't until "Six", so when do you want to Lumanian arc? Five is when Tesla'n'Henry are there (I have them on for only one adventure, but you could have them there for a couple more, if you wanted, btw) aside from people shuffling there's very little going on in either Three or Four. also, the thing about the Jewel State story: it should be the start of Harlan/Cat, yes, but it shouldn't be so close as you have it. it should be the start of Four, which means you'll have almost a year of awkward not-dating to deal with. just so you know. Make it Five. it'll have to do with secret rooms, and Tesla, Henry, and Sofiana with their techsmarts... yeah. they'll also have to find the weapons, those will be useful during the Spung arc. but we're way too far ahead. we have to get through Three and Four. er... we should see Elmira a couple more times before she joins the crew. she and Radu need to stay in touch, dreamwise, y'know, be involved before she comes to stay. so once each year, at least. the first time mid-Three, like June or July. she escaped again, obviously, and when she got far enough away to stop she dug that chip out and is now bleeding to death. fortunately the Christa is nearby and she gets coordinates to Radu in dreams. so they patch her up but she refuses to stay. again. second time, they run into her because she's been caught by Spung bounty hunters. those guys with the Rhombi. but rather than take her directly to Shank, they're using her as bait for the Christa. this will go poorly for them and she will end up taking their ship and leaving them on a planet. she says she has one thing left to do when she leaves. put it before Sofiana you haven't done, well, *anything* with Davenport and Goddard yet. when do *they* get together? and how? and while you're at it, explain why they could control the ship as kids but not as adults, in the context of "bonding" where the walls also lit up for them. sex pollen. well, okay, not. but that would be great. either right before or right after Elmira's Chip, you can pick. Watch me: they were frightened, they flinched away, so it bonded with them but as passengers. when they were kids they weren't scared, so their status was revised accordingly. ...maybe you could get away with it. if it were mild, so only made them kiss. then it would be terribly awkward, and be locked in a room with very little oxygen and she'd panic so it would happen again, complete with "deathbed confessions" and more awkwardness after they pointedly *don't die*. that would be one story, and the story after would have him trying to woo her and her failing to resist. and it would be after the chip, so Elmira can predict it in the most vague way possible. Geez... must be a ship story, so we can focus on the wooing without being too focused on them specifically two stories in a row. so... the Christa catches a cold. it is biotech, after all.
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Post by Tate Icasa on Mar 12, 2011 16:13:00 GMT -5
Jenny. It's Jenny at Air Canada, first thing after figuring out that the Room became a Tardis and the gateverse is closed. if she had any passengers, she's already dropped them off. I'm labelling her with a * before the number, so as to keep it separate. like we're going with Rose because of how far back we're going. Just thought I'd let you know. I'm labelling it as "the Room" in the storysheets, numbered like the Tardis. I'm starting it at 2, so that the discovery is 1. in May of Three: the gizbots. someone comes across the storage room and activates a few, thinking -- quite sensibly -- that more would get done with more of them running. couldn't be more wrong. they interfere with each other and all need to be shut off. in Nov of Three: a second hanger deck, hidden behind the Starling Bay, with bigger shuttles. of course, they are in the back for a *reason*. the shuttles are more bio than tech, they need to symbiotically interface with their pilot (like the broccoli trees). this turns out to be addictive, so someone -- Harlan. So totally Harlan. -- will need to be weaned off it. in June of Four: migration of the starpaths. there are as big as the Christa and flat, and they shimmer with reflected starlight. they block the Christa's path, so they have to wait. meanwhile, they're hurting Suzee, because they're unrestricted telepaths and she no longer has a shield in April of Three: the Christa docks with a Queien (pronounced kayan) trading vessel which is nearly out of power. Bova jumpstarts their engine, and the traders reward him with moruven forever gum, which never loses it's flavour or bubblemaking ability. that night he spits it out and sticks it to the wall by his bed. then he ends up sleepchewing his way into the airlock and blows a bubble that encases him. he's left flaoting in space, preserved for the traders to pick up and use as a battery. the rest of the crew have to go back and rescue him. in June of Three: Elexum, a serum with vapours so potent even Suzee's gills wouldn't protect her. the Christa stops to assist a stopped transport ship and the crew go through in the suits. they determine there is no threat so take them off. then one of the few remaining mutated crew start the engines up. the ship rocks and a vial of Elexum shatters. so the ones who go over to the transport ship it starts to mutate. they get soft, blue spikes on the backs of their wrists. and they're telepathically linked, but not in a good way. more in a hivemind way. Rosie would be able to engineer an antidote, probably. in October of Three: Vrair and Emme are a married couple with a small ship. The only crew they have is a little birdalien called Isyaanisha. They're scientists and their ship is a portable lab. They happen to be in orbit around the planet the Christa stops at to recover from her illness and they become friends. June: John is trying to convince Jack to help him take over the world. They are overheard by vampires, who assume that John is Spike and thusly decide to be his minions. This large gathering is noticed by AI, who go to break it up. July: the one where Kate Lockley joins. This is to be the one with the Black Dog, and it is stalking her and must be dispatched. Does she see it? If she sees it she has twelve months to live. Maybe she's not sure if she saw it. They have to assume she did and that they need to find a cure. That's why she stays with them. Illyria was stripped of a lot of powers, but let's assume that she can temporarily hold back curses. So until they can find a cure, Kate has to stick around. August: this is the one with the Asrai. it comes to them to ask for help and they comply September: electricityGwen joins up. she must have acquired something. say those statues that come to life. the Too Jou Shen. Nice. I want to work on the caseverse and Merlin, okies? Rachel T (9:58 PM): Image. Chase/Daniel. Rachel T (9:58 PM): Unusable, but good. How is that unusable? The amount of infidelity already in there doesn't really scream "impossible". Fine by me. Done any research on Arthurian legend? (Also, I think I'm breaking canon after the second series. I've looked over S3's synopses and I don't think I can get what I want to happen to fit with it. So I'm not bothering. Kaya?) Over on the caseverse. What about Grace and the Cyberplant? if we make that Dec it has to be a one-parter. actually, it has to be a one-parter unless we put it in Five. so it *must* be December. There are still 6 blanks in Four, and 6 blanks in Five for the Lumanian arc. I had a thought about Jenny. The woman who played Anne Bolyn in The Tudors (Natalie Dorner) would be a better Jenny than Lucy Hale. She's a *bit* older, and British. Suzee/Sofiana, should sort of start before the fall-through. Like, they should have *moments*, and at least one kiss that they both swear never happened. I'm going to toss the other spacebase crosses into Four. one after Sofiana and one after Elmira. but not immediately after. since, let's be honest: River Tam, Trance Gemini, and Elmira. Y/Y? Y. So that's the rommieverse at that point what's up with Harper/Rommie? You've never defined them. Know what would be great? A Suzee/Harper/Sofiana threesome, with intent on the girls part that this is how they get over their 'thing'? Damn you. Yes. Let's see... Bova/Rosie, TJ/Seth, Cat/Harlan, Radu/Elmira, Suzee/Shimir, Suzee/Sofiana. 5:1 Okay, but let's try honesty. You have Reaver before TJ/Seth. Tell me there isn't Goddard/Reaver, even if it is entirely in flashback. And knowing you, it won't be. It will be a steaming pile of dubcon. You know me so well. Okay, 5:2. Not great, but better than expected. And considering the ratios on some of my other bases, that's pretty good. Now, once they decide they're not going back, TJ's nearing 40 and if she wants a baby *ever* now would be the time to start trying. She's never wanted a baby before. She thought small children were messy nuisances. You know she did. Buw there's her biological clock running down, and she has Seth, and they're *never going back*/ So now she wants one. Hey, how are you getting out of counting Suzee/Harper and Sofiana/Harper? Are you telling it as part of the Rommieverse? I want so very much to not give her one. To have her be too late and unable to conceive. On the other hand, Marcus Goddard. You stole that name from me. Watch me spin: Lumanian arc. Secret room. TJ has the worst luck with secret rooms. This room contains the Black Glass. Looks like a piece of shiny black rock, but if you look at it right it creates a Virtual Reality specifically tailored to you. the only way out is obvs to destory the VR. (borrowing a bit from The Dream Lord, you see) But in the VR are the *children*, and outside the VR the Black Glass is draining energy from the ship to power the VR, and they *really* need to get her out of there. it's a two parter, definitely. What do you think? I think you're amazing. Of *course*. DUring or after the Portal Sequence? After, I think. That puts it rather late, ne? Nov., yeah. We still need Four stories. But if you'd rather work on the Lumanian arc, we can. No moving further than Five until we're done with Four, tho. No touching the Spung arc. Curiousity: They said in the one with the sistership that escape pods left the sistership. What happened to them? Curiousity: Lumanian tech. Advanced, popular, unfamiliar. Whare are they from? why has no one heard of them? do they come from another galaxy or another time period? Idea: Another Andromedan colonyship, like the one Radu came from They're different, but nice. and this must be befor Elmira, so they can tempt him to join them. I was also wondering about the escape pods. They must encounter at least one, to learn about species origins. The thing is, after they decide to stay, the Christa and all her systems will open right up for them. Because she wasn't going to give all her secrets to people who were going to leave her. She'll re-bond to them, and Seth and TJ will be able to use the controls. And the secret rooms unlock, as do the weapons systems. A weapons console appears. Who takes what stations? They have a full crew now. Well Harlan obviously stays on piloting. Cat takes piloting opposite him, and a shift in engineering with Suzee. Rosie is on Comms, but also Medlab so Elmira is opposite her. Bova and Sofiana are opposite each other on the tactical stations- Weaspons and Shields. Radu on Navigation, obvs. I think uless they're in combat they only need one tactical officer on deck, just like unless there's an injury they don't *need* anyone in the Medlab. Suzee is usually engineering only, like Harlan is usually piloting only. not that they *can't* do the other stations, because for practical reasons they should all have functioning basic knowledge of all systems, but these are *theirs*. Seth and TJ, even though tye now *can*, probably don't use the controls often. but when they do, TJ takes Comms, and Seth takes whatever he wants. The kids can't graduation and become Stardogs now. But at some point, post-not go back, TJ has to agree that they don't need classes anymore, ne? They'd have a graduation, even if it is unoffical. Start the Tesla'n'Henry arrival story with it. What does TJ do if not teach? You think she isn't teaching? Oh no no no, my dear Tatey-chan. Starcadamy was their equivalent of a high school education. Once students become Stardogs they can take "college level" courses. They'd be more individual, independent study courses. But, well, maybe she'd have an existential crisis, because she wouldn't think of that. She's not particularly good at any of the stations. not at anything, really, except teaching. things were too busy to worry about it when Tesla'n'Henry first appeared, but the story after that... she can mope around until the kids prove they still need her. she's such a mother hen. And this will tip her off that she wants kids. Goddard will so accuse her on "empty nest"ing. Which she is. Okay, so there must be more story than that, tho. What are Tesla'n'Henry up to? Exploring. Tesla thinks if there's a weapons system for ship-to-ship, there should be an armoury. And you know he wants to fiddle with it. Of course he does. He must have an escort, because the ship didn't bond with him. Nothing horrible has happened to the two of them in a while... ~legasp~ That is unacceptable. It must, next story. Tesla will be working on finding a way to fix Thelma's memory crystal. Which he will do. But that means disconnecting Thelma while he works. Tesla's on drugs, isn't he, for the vampirism? he must also be mixing up a new supply of those. maybe the two combined. he realizes this, but only once it's too late. it's erasing bits of his memory. just the past, though, not the present. which means he'd be aware of it happening. which would be terrifying. Not next story. Last story. They'll leave after that. We're still 5 stories short of being able to start the Spung Arc. But we can *have* Spung, if that will help any. have some slavers, Spung or not, disable the Christa and take half her crew. Non. Which half? Radu. Elmira. Sofi. Suzee. Harlan, I guess, even though he's human. The other's are on the command post, which sealed when they were boarded. The captured ones make life very difficult for the slavers, until they're sold as a set to a lovely man who turns them free. Tar Sel Vela? Mr. Vela is a Prophet. His species' version of an Oracle. Unlike the rest of his race, he can't just Speak things into being. No Prophet can, but they can see omnipresently and are therefore treated quite well. He won't free them just because he can. They must do something. They save his life. Prophets used to be treated well, but the new regime is bent on wiping them out. He offers them their freedom in exchange for taking them away, but they don't have a ship They don't need one because his young daughter, Lisette, can Speak them back to the Christa. Nice. No time has passed since their taking, despite all the weeks they experienced. Tar Sel Vela and Lisette's powers were... not location specific, but location emphasized. They don't work nearly as well away from their planet. You named the kid, does that mean you plan on keeping her? ...I *want* to. But the Black Glass is Nov., isn't it? ~frown~ It is. But the fallthrough works just as well for January. Go ahead. Lisette can't be more than four. Tar Sel Vela must die soon after reaching the Christa. His Prophetic powers are caused by a tumour. proximity to Elmira triggers a vision, which turns out to be his last. He sees Shimir, which sets off the Spung Arc of next year. TJ, of course, keeps Lisette. Hmm? Sounds fine to me. I assume you don't plan on following the base long enough for Lisette to develop her own tumour? Well I might have to now you've said *that*. 3 for Four, 2 for Five, ne? I'll take Five. And as for that post-Elmira Four story, I'm adapting your Jeisal story. It's not a Yensidian animal, it's a Spung critter. Starts off so tiny it geot in in Elmira's hair. poor thing, completely mad. scares the hell out of Suzee. needs to be put down. Rose will befriend it, you know. An amusement part, for one of them. The kids have been working really hard, so when they pass an amusement park spacestation - a Circus Station - the Commander decides they can have a vacation. Not that all goes well, of course, but such is life. And as for the other, let's say... Enies. Enies are like lightning bugs, except that a group of them all together are almost intelligent. Like chimps, or dolphins; they lead the kids out of a cave system they get lost in while searching for ore, or fuel or something. one of the kids falls in and the others leap in after. Okay, *someone* is getting married. Prolly TJ and Seth. Yes. Post-Radu's Puberty, because of course they'd wait till all the kids were grown up. they're also all paired off by this, point, or nearly. So Harlan will suggest that since it's not a legal wedding anyway, they all get married together. He will of course point out that they're all paired off "well, except for Suzee and Sofiana..." Cue dagger-glare. Also, Bova and Rosie arguing over being married: "Why bother?" "You... *what*?" Nod. "A wedding ceremony doesn't actually confirm fidelity, and we're already cohabiting so we don't need permission for that, which is what a wedding originally was, you know. When I die everyone knows you get my stuff. And neither of us own an property, so it's not like there will be any tax breaks. I just don't see the point." "*Bova!* It's *romantic*." Bova doesn't see the point of ramance, either. The other one is when? January. It's that January. And then we can start in on the Spung Arc. Tell me what you've got. We've already crossed both the spacebases, and Tesla'n'Henry and the domestics --twice-- make the whoniverse, the buffyverse is covered by the fallthrough. But the gateverse... and they do have a ship. For a bit, anyway. Where are those gaps? August, September, November, and December of 2011. Make it September and plot it as a gateverse story. have the Christa slide through a crack in spacetime, due to her time-manipulation controls. So other than actually finding Shimir, what do we need? mindSuzee and Sofiana's return, or do we wait that and have a Seven? As for the message from the future, I have an idea. Wait it for now, see if we'll *need* a Seven. I've an idea for Shimir. What have you got for the Message? After they learn about the Doppleganger. The Christa's time manipulation controls allow easy travel between universes. What if they could also create them? Blow up pockets of space-time to form habitable pocket universes. Bubble universes. Then the spungverse from that episode is their own creation. They blew it up and then shunted all the doppleganger affected Spung into it As a side effect, all other dopplganger affected folks - and the Dopplegangers themselves - are also shunted in and converted by the Lister Effect. All the Spung ships and stations are now empty save for the Oracles and slave races. Very cool. I suppose Pirates wil seize the Killcruisers? Who's rushing into the power vaccuum? Some, prolly. Once the UPP gets wind of it, they'll want to take over but they're mostly too far away. I don't see why there needs to be a power vaccuum, anyway. Can't the now free Oracles lead? I know Elmira could, and I assume she's about standard for an Oracle.Who says Elmira is standard? She's a *Surrola*. She was brought up as a noble, no matter what other horrid things they did to her as an Oracle. Maybe she could lead, maybe Shimir (what's the masculine of Surrola?) could, but the others? Anyway, is there a Spung world or just those stations? It's Surrol, I think. Surrol Shimir. And of *course* Elmira leads. She *has* to. I can't believe I didn't think of it before.Spungania was lost ages ago. If it even still exists, those who are left have no clue how to get there. Elmira's taking over what's left of the Spung Empire. She and Shimir are the rightful heirs, after all. First Station they come to she's getting off and taking over. Organizing. Radu is going with her, of course. They're just getting started. This station -- Illyeana Station, stealing from you again -- is the model for the others. The rest of the crew are less than thrilled, but they're now escorting Shimir around to the others before, well, they *are* kind of responsible for this. Most of the slaves have never been off the stations. They're born and bred as slaves, and they have nowhere to go. These are the Merafrans, about waisthigh, bluehaired but otherwise albinos. She offers them their freedom, but they want to serve. They are horrified by the other slaves, who leave as soon as they are able. Elmira, at least, makes them not-slaves. Servants, paid and educated. She's working on acclimating them to freedom. We don't have to follow this, tho. So long as we see her and Radu on the viewscreen and hear "My sister is..." every so often. What have you got for Shimir? Okay, so the Christa is heading into an area of space the Spung don't like. It makes their skin crawl - even Elmira. As suchh it's a perfect place for escaped Oracles to flee to. They call it Aemys Space. It's about six starsystems, so not a tiny space but not a large one. Difficult to search, but Elmira is sure she can find her brother and she'll be right. The people in Aemys Space are ruled by one government, sort of like the UPP. They call Oracles Dreamwalkers and hold them in very high esteem. Sso they're in Aemys Space for a bit before and after. Hey, these Bubble universes, is that where the Lumanians went? That's exactly where they went. All at once, like the Spung, leaving all their ships behind. A few of them come back every few years, to check up on this universe. That's why there were Lumanians on the sistership. The escape pods had universehopping controls, but they malfunctioned in the one our guys find. Kiel, the Lumanian inside, explains all this to them during the Lumanian Arc, before he fixes his pod and goes back. I think we're in Seven. I was assuming that the Bubble was th end of Six. The Christa is the flagship of Elmira's empire, and her crew are the equivalent of royalty, right? Also, we can't keep calling it Elmira's Empire. And once she's sure of her command, she should open talks with the UPP. Of course they are. She probably did the equivalent of knighting them all. Erm... well, I like Dreamwalker as an alternate to Oracle. and it is an empire of Oracles. They have no worlds, and Elmira doesn't like "Empire", so they're the Dreamwalker Stations. There are six stations, and Shimir needs to fisit all the other five. I'd forgotten the UPP. All the kids are technically dropouts and Seth essentially ran away from a courtmartial when they decided not to go back. The UPP probably *hates* them. Like, assumes they're pirates hate. Elmira will probably need to fix that, once she recalls all the Killcruisers and starts actual peacetalks. Because she wants to be friends with the UPP, really. She wants to sign a proper treaty. She'll send the Christa and arrage for them to spend some time visitng their folks. And of course she'll have to say to Admiral Cody something along the lines of, "And if even one of my people is not returned to me as promised, be assued that the full force of the Dreamwalkers will come down on you, treaty or no treaty." Because Elmira rocks. How close to UPP space are they? You mean how close to Starcadamy? At least a year. The Stations seen in S2 were small outposts, much further away. And I think TJ and Seth will be with Elmira and Radu at the Station, because TJ will be teaching the Merafrans and she and Seth don't have family back there. How many years are we going? Well. A year there and a year back makes Eight and Nine. We'll see if we need a Ten after that, if we want to carry on. That.. is a lot. *A lot*. And we still have *nine blanks* in *Six*. So let's fill out the Spung Arc, hmm? We should take a look back in on the Hunters - Amirge, Tongo, and Kirge. It's probably about time for Kirge to take a mate. Warlord Shank will, of course, tell his father that he can have Elmira -- it he brings her back. Elmira is already married. This will not go well. Not in the slightest. How similar to she and Shimir look? Similar enough to fake each other. So Amirge would grab Shimir by mistake, and, well, not go well. I say they've not left Aemys Space when Amirge strikes. The glory of Kirge's wedding to Elmria outweighs the fear of Aemys Space. Semper Ubi. If he tetramorphed away to a nerby planet -- say, the otne they'd been in orbit around -- before the Master blew the ship up. He would be mighty pissed and will come looking for revenge. Pre-Shimir. I had an idea for the Aemys Space stories. This is where the idea for the Bubble and knowledge of the Dopplegangers comes from. A group of Dreamwalkers all working together can trigger all the rest across the universe, and see into the past instead of the future. That's the two parter. They'll need expert scientists and the only ones they know are outside Aemys Space... Wait. Harper would *adore* the opportunity to do something so massive. We *must* get him. How? When the Christa sees they need his help, she'll send for him. Across universes, into Andromeda's matrices she'll reach and after asking permission she'll copy him and make a hologram to work on the problem. holoHarper is only a temporary construct. Once the Bubble is activated, he will disappear. Of course. And he disrupts the Christa's systems when he first appears When does Suzee/Shimir start? After he gets away from Amirge. Well the Aemys Space one is easy. One Aemys planet asks them to bring some cargo to another. It turns out to be alive and escapes, needs to be tracked down. TJ knows Lisette needs to be around kids her own age. While they're at a planet she enrolls her in an Aemys kindergarten, where her Speaking gets her into trouble. Elmira is already making plans, because she knows she's going to be the leader of the Dreamwalkers. They story before the Bubble she should sign a peace treaty with the Aemys Bosses. You make the Aemys Bosses sound incredibly creepy. Just so you know. One more blank. I'll get it. That property of Aemys Space that makes the Spung's skin crawl. Turns out if you stay long enough you acclimate to it, and get the equivalent of psychic jetlag when you come out of it. This is the one right before the Bubble, because they can't be in Aemys Space when they set it off. This is the only other story with Warlord Shank in it. She has to offer him the chance to surrender, even though he, y'know, *won't*. That's all of Six. Give the names of the other five Stations so I can stick them into Seven. I don't feel like coming up with names. Just call them First Station, Second Station, etc. the contacting of the UPP, using the satelite found on Kareesh Nine. The Christa has returned to Illyeana Station, and will stay there until they leave for the Starcadamy. sometime during the trip out Elmira lays an egg. She'll have to spend about six months tending to it before it hatches. A girl hatchling, Kazim. Dreamwalker genetics. Is Kazim a Dreamwalker, or evil, or just ordinary. Well you originally had it as a passive gene, but I think you're wrong. There's a 95% chance an Oracle's child will be an Oracle. And there are no ordinaries anymore. Anyway, as babies there's a predisposition for evil, but it can be overcome with decent parenting. That's Kazim. Are you taking these now as two groups on the storysheets? the Christa and Illyeana Station? I suppose I am, for Eight and Nine. Elmira and Radu, TJ and Seth, Lisette and baby Kazim. Anyone else we know on Illyeana? Depends. When do mindSuzee and Sofiana return and how? If they're back, Suzee and Sofiana will stay at Illyeana, but if they aren't Suzee will go with Shimir. They should return in Seven. Near the end, after the Stations but before the UPP contact. As for how, there are how many folks with VMs? One of them, I assume. I've no cute singles, so not Jack. Does the VMer stick around? Depnds on which one it is. If they'll accidentally undermine Elmira's authority, no. But if it's someone used to taking a backseat, sure. Is there a list of VMers somewhere? Er... QLSam in Jack's headspace, Jenny with the Room, Handy with a Tardis and a VM group at one point, Donna same deal, freeSam time travels but doesn't dimension hop, the four NTA "leaders": Grace, Karen, Max, and Jack. Also their recruites, two for each leader though only Helena and the Wych-tree's Bella have been defined. Although I did have this idea... Alice Morgan. Is prime Time Agency material, what with the psychopathy and all. So a future version of her pops back and grabs her and Luther from that building. Younger Alice totes keeps Luther as a pet on the Limerick, which is NTA HQ. "Don't love him," the older one will tell her, "Don't you dare." But she will, of course. And she'll take him with her, which is a mistake. He'll take her VM and leave her stranded -- which gets her left where she needs to be for Nutters Interaction with the Moff's Sherlock (where, due to Time Agent name changing practices, she will be Irene Adler) although she obviously gets a new one from someone. Probably Grace. "And don't lose it this time". Not that she has any room to talk, what with her many imprisonments with Torchwoods Gwen and Scotland, but y'know, leadership position and all -- so for a while he has a VM as well. Which one of the listees brings Suzee and Sofiana home? Er... Not someone who will later be with TWP. Because rather than stay at Illyeana, I think they return to TSR and stick around there for a bit. Also, I keep confusing the NQM with the CDG, did you notice? I didn't until you pointed it out. I've been making the same mistake. There's a creature in I thought we might adapt. It's called gloamglozer and it is --apparently-- the most frightening monster in the world. They use it as a curse word, and it responds as if it's answering a prayer. It's a shapeshifter and it reveals itself and pretends to be nice and offers to make you a shapeshifter too. And if you consent, it kills you. Well the only made up curse we have is Cat's Grozit. Cat is with Harlan, the only one without a "superpower". This lack has been exploited in fic before. Also, we never did finish that BMW collab, or even, y'know, start it. So go us. So throw it into the crossoververse. ...oh my god, did I really just suggest that? You are such a bad influence on me, Moment. Tell me where it fits, dear. 2000, NYC. It's pathetic that I know that. It is not. And I don't want to follow them for forever. My timeline doesn't peroperly follow until 08 for NYC. So give them six months, then send the threesome through to Altrusia for a bit, pop them into the future when that gets boring. Make sure to make the threesome actually a threesome. We follow Eric, Kelly, and Ryan the same way we followed freeSam/Frannie. ...that's all rather vague. Six months puts us, what, middle of 2001? So it really is like following freeSam/Frannie. Nice. How long to you plan on leaving the threesome in Alturisa? Erm.. I'd have to look at the Altrusia timeline and I don't have an updated version. No one ever updates frightfullytwee anymore. We're looking to define another NTAgent, yeah? Pull as many from the gateverse as we can because it's ending? Well, Neal is already used to changing his name, and it gets that threesome to safety. Maybe throw them to NTAC later? Rosie seems the type to get sucked into a cult, doesn't she? She is very trusting.Tate: about this cult? Moment: well, it wouldn't be out to kill people or anything Moment: but it would definitely not be good Moment: she'd need to be rescued Tate: tell me about Elmira and Shimir's mother Tate: Oracular power is passed by generation, so is she an Oracle? Shank obvs wasn't. Moment: I think she was, once Moment: but the power vanishes when in manifests in your children, sort of the opposite of how Merlin's dragon magic manifests only after his father dies Tate: and of course once she was no longer an Oracle she was useless to him Tate: what happened to her? Moment: sent to a regular slave quarter, I assume Moment: her name is Kirim, btw Moment; Kazim's twin is called Kimira, after her. Kimi and Kaz Moment: but where Kazim has evil tendencies, Kimira doesn't. she'll definitely be a Dreamwalker Moment: "Elmira and Shimir; twins? except. either they're from the same cluth and thus clutchmates rather than twins, or siblings with one older than the other. or they came from the same egg. but genders? some lizards can switch. and Shank *would* force one to change, so he'd have one of each. so Spung - two to an egg, androgeny until first birthday, when they differentiate. they pick thwi own genders, and as for names... they come with them, like psychic imprints. like Freefall. so Kazim has a twin. Kazim will be the boy, btw. must remember to add the girl." Moment: we should really divert to find Kirim Moment: she's on a planet. where the slave transportship she was in crashed Moment: Shimir feels his mothers presense and diverts them there, bringing Elmira and Radu because because it's *that* important Moment: Kirim is an old fashioned Spung, slightly insane and completely corrupted by her own society. she's running the makeshift survivor colony as a dictatorship Moment: this where Radu's prophesy comes true, in a two parter Moment: he saves all the slaves from Kirim, and saves Kirim from herself Moment: that finishes Seven, ne? Tate: yupperdo Tate: other than their vacation at the treaty signing, nothing has been said of the Christa for her journey in either direction Tate: how about the city of Amura? Tate: we already know it's a dimensional hub, but do we know where the planet Altrusia actually is? Moment: we do now Moment: it's in the caseverse Moment: after the incident with the Ring, Blackie needs to escape and eventually create the Cafe. so when the Christa stops to trade or whatever, he stows away in their cargo hold and they don't notice him until they're well underway Tate: and how do you suggest he create the Cafe? Moment: well, he stole a bit of Tardis coral from Eleven and Romana when he was a kid and now he has access to Lumanian tech Moment: it can't be that hard; he is a genius after all Tate: and then he'll take it out of the caseverse, obvs Tate: on their way back to Illyean they'll stop by Amura again, and guss what? Tate: proximity to the dimensional hub causes Dreamwalkers to slip between dimensions in their sleep. Shimir might accidentally slip into the otherverse Moment: where? A bit of Altrusia or a bit of Dinotopia? Tate: Altrusia, I think Tate: I want to see him interact with Shung, Nim, and Keeg Moment: and by 'interact' you mean...? Tate: I mean 'defeat' Moment: so where do they go once defeated? Shimir doesn't *kill* them? Tate: well.. actually... why not? Moment: okay Moment: can I cal this the two parter? Moment: since Shim will need to find a way back? Moment: I want the Slash Dragon at Illyeana Station Tate: is there *room* for it? Moment: the portal it comes through adjusts its size to fit the universe it falls into Moment: this is while it's away, so there's no one to come after it unless it calls for help Tate: can it do that? Moment: not on it's own Moment: Lisette isn't powerful enough to Speak a new portal into existance, but she could make enough of one for a message to get through Tate: and then Merlin comes through to save him? Tate: after banishing him? Moment: well, Merlin sets conditions Moment: well, Kilgara has to swear loyalty to Arthur and to Camelot, to start with Moment: and Merlin casts a spell to make the oath binding forever, even extending to Kilgara's descendants Tate: so... how come Kcenanire helps AI? if Kilgara is only tame because of that? Moment: oobviously someone there is distantly related to Arthur Moment: prolly Spike Tate: does that mean... Spike can give Kcenanire *orders*? Moment: ... Moment: yes Moment: yes, it does Tate: does he *know* that? Moment: he *will* Tate: Kilgara at Illyeana Station, remember? Moment: two parter? Moment: when? Tate: before Elmira lays her egg Moment: wait. the Master blew the ship up, but did he technically kill Reaver? Tate: no. Tate: he tortured him and left him near death, then blew up the ship Tate: Ubi escaped Moment: and he didn't bring Reaver with him? Tate: so he's, what, biding his time on some planet somewhere? waiting and recovering from his injuries? Moment: and gathering his resources, prolly Moment: I think he's acquired one of the recalled Killcruisers, at least Tate: three Tate: a proper mini-fleet, all still slave-run Moment: and he's terrorizing a particular region of space we have to pass through going both ways Moment: call it Pirate Space Moment: first time our guys go through Pirate Space they are caught off guard and barely escape Moment: the second time they're prepared and steal the Killcruisers from Reaver, reactivating the recall order and leading the ships back to Illyeana Station Tate: what happens to Reaver? Moment: he escapes again Tate: Reaver seems nuts enough to be NTA Moment: can the Limerick pop out of the whoniverse and into the caseverse? Tate: that will make things easier for me, so sure. when? Moment: when Grace first turns it into NTAHQ after Malcolm and Ee leave Tate: but I'm putting it's timeline into a year called Unknown, since it's separate Moment: so when does Reaver join and who recruits him? Tate: erm... I don't even know who recruits who when Tate: are leaders are Grace, Karen, Max, and Jack, ne? Moment: Bella is one of Grace's, but I want to say she's someone we know using a new NTA name. At least, that's what I want to happen Tate: now, who is it who grabbed Helena and dragged Tesla home? Tate: Grace did Moment: Alice Morgan technically recruited herself with a paradox, but who's claiming her? Tate: someone with Poor Judgement Tate: some one who recruits Reaver Moment: "poor judgement" Moment: I immediately think "Jack" Tate: he's busy recruiting Katie Fitch Tate: but that means he only gets one more recruit Moment: and who recruits Neal? Tate: one of the nice ones. Either Karen or Max Moment: let's take a look at Karen and Max's lives Moment: who makes the better choices? Tate: Karen does Tate: so Max is Questionable Judgement Tate: when does Max recruit Reaver? Moment: er... next time they encounter him with the Christa they will have an NTA recruiter chilling with them Moment: why will Max be there and for how long? Tate: three stories Tate: sometime in Ten Tate: and I don't know why. why do NTAgents go anywhere? Tate: other than the diplomatic mission at the end there is no overall Christa Arc is there? Moment: there is not Moment: before I forget, Lisette's Tumour is sometime in Ten Moment: the Spungverse and the Lumanianverse are still Bubbles on the caseverse Moment: so there could be visits from the Bubbles into the secret rooms Tate: those Lumanians who do the check-up every few years? Moment: are we sure these are our only bases Tate: YES Tate: unless you are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN what you are doing with another one, they are Tate: and before you suggest anything *I* suggest you look at how much work there is to do with what there already is Moment: the Earthbases are all next to each other, in the same way that the Spacebases are all next to each other Moment: the buffyverse and the gateverse chare the otherverse Pocket Tate: the caseverse has the Lumanianverse (Lumania from now on) and the Spungverse as Bubbles Tate: do Bubbles extend as Pockets into neighboring bases? Moment: that would explain how the otherverse is shared, and how Donna's World works as a stepping stone, so sure Moment: which verses to Lumania (cute) and the Spungverse Pocket into? Tate: Spung into the flyverse, Lumania into the rommieverse Tate: cos Bubbles pop, eventually, and Spung loose in the flyverse would be great Moment: Wonderland Pockets into the gateverse and the OZ Pockets into the buffyverse Tate: Deep Past? Moment: Merlin ~nodnod~ Moment: the sheer itty-bittyness of what we've done with either of them makes it tonnes easier to get the cross Tate: and what about Wonderland? the charries like have all been shoved firmly where we want them Moment: well, er, it's still a fascinating place Moment: and the gate could skip and connect to the Looking Glass by mistake, which would be plenty interesting Tate: so how many Transversal Rooms are there? that the check-up Lumanians use to pop into the caseverse? Moment: five? that's a decent crew for a non-occupied ship, I think Tate: one of them Kiel? Moment: why not Moment: on the way to or from UPP space? Tate: to Tate: tell me about Keffy Moment: so Katie, after securing her family's financials, goes off to NTA school Moment: since the school is actually on the Limerick *before* the recruiting -- well, except for Grace, she does hers first -- the groups the NTAgents are travelling with aren't the ones they recruited Moment: that means we'll need to have *two* lists of NTA stuff-- one for recruits and one for travelling groups Moment: Jack ditched his travelling group when he went off with Saul Moment: after NTA school she comes back and find Tony Moment: first thing Moment: forces him to come back and help his sister Moment: their parents are useless and didn't bother to tell him Effs was in trouble Tate: Katie would be pretty with either of the Stomen kids Tate: why is this not a triange? Moment: it is now Moment: I have Keffy dialogue Moment: "You love us. Why?" "Don't you know?" "I know everything." Tate: she just might, too Tate: so NTA school, is that where they split into their travelling groups? Moment: yeah, prolly Tate: Topanga. Tate: is she a Slayer? Moment: yes Moment: the only thing is... timeline? isn't the threesome in Altrusia when Willow casts the awakening spell? Tate: erm... yes? surely it crosses dimensional boundaries, tho Moment: there are no Watchers in Altrusia Tate: but she must have one Moment: it was supposed to be Feeny, but he retired when she moved away and vanished Moment: but once she reappears... maybe he's at the Slayer Center? Moment: he'll be rounded up when Buffy rounds up the remaining Watchers Tate: that works Moment: now, way back in the Deep Past Moment: Morgana Moment: she was taken by Morgause, her half-sister with creepy femmeslash vibes Moment: we have to get her back before she turns completely evil, right Tate: why? Tate: I loved Morgana, but you need villains Tate: and hot villains are good for you
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Post by Minterference on Mar 19, 2011 10:50:11 GMT -5
Slashy (11:30 PM): so Tatey-chan pointed something out to me a couple days ago. Slashy (11:31 PM): "Rachel T (9:57 PM): Oh God. Slashy (9:58 PM): Oh God what? Rachel T (9:58 PM): Image. Chase/Daniel. Rachel T (9:58 PM): Good Oh God. Rachel T (9:58 PM): Unusable, but good." She sends me this quote followed by: "How is that unusable? The amount of infidelity already in there doesn't really scream "impossible"." Slashy (11:32 PM): how exactly is it that we came to the conclusion that it was an unusable image? Raquel Tabor (11:32 PM): I think you were trying to stop making Daniel be a whore. Slashy (11:33 PM): Oh... well, I've given up on that. Slashy (11:46 PM): I need gateverse stories Slashy (11:46 PM): for Atlantis. Since I haven't worked on Atlantis since the last time I worked on it with you, you shouldn't have any trouble helping me with it. ~blinkblink~ Slashy (11:49 PM): Stark and Vala joined. Todd fixes Ford when Ford's Wraith Farm is shut down. There is Todd/Ford noncon. Slashy (11:50 PM): Then there are three blanks before the next spot of infidelity. Which is aliens-made-them-do-it McKay/cloneBeckett, then Zelenka/cloneBeckett. Slashy (11:51 PM): ...Atlantis isn't really The Lost City of the Ancients anymore. It's more... Atlantis: City of Whores... This should be more disturbing than it is. Slashy (11:54 PM): So. Horrible things must happen. To characters we like. Raquel Tabor (11:54 PM): Daniel and Shep are having terrible hallucinations. Slashy (11:55 PM): what is causing the hallucinations? Raquel Tabor (11:55 PM): uhm, spores Raquel Tabor (11:56 PM): badness spores Raquel Tabor (11:56 PM): they're not the only ones Raquel Tabor (11:56 PM): they're just the only ones we care about. Slashy (11:56 PM): "badness spores" huh? Raquel Tabor (11:56 PM): Daniel was on Shep's team because Rodney has a terrible cold. That he's totally dying of, Shep, really, it feels like his head is going to explode from all the pressure Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): (Rodney does have a cold, but he just *really* does not want to go to this planet) Slashy (11:57 PM): that is what my storysheet is going to say. "Daniel and Sheppard hallucinate due to Badness Spores." Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): There are children on the planet Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): it only affects teenagers & up, like the light</font> Slashy (11:58 PM): so why doesn't Rodney want to go to this planet? Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): children Slashy (11:59 PM): he should be stuck babysitting. I'm horrible, I know. Raquel Tabor (11:59 PM): do it Slashy (11:59 PM): Lenna has a cold too. And since she can't infect Rodney since he already has it... Slashy (12:05 AM): so, what do these Badness Spores make Daniel and Shep hallucinate? Tessa (12:08 AM): People dying. The goauld & replicators coming back. Slashy (12:09 AM): That's lovely. I do love your imagination. Which of the three blanks do you think I should put it in? Tessa (12:09 AM): Middle Tessa (12:09 AM): Maybe earth getting destroyed Tessa (12:10 AM): They should be linked psychically. Slashy (12:10 AM): ...these hallucinations just get worse and worse. I like that linked thing. Does that last after the hallucinations end? Tessa (12:10 AM): Share the hallucinations. Also, it should continue for a while after the hallucinations end Slashy (12:11 AM): NICE. How long after? A couple stories? More? Tessa (12:12 AM): Til its convienient for the plot if they can't communicate like that. Slashy (12:13 AM): ...so it cuts out at the worst possible time. Yes. Give me a story for when it cuts out and I will find a place to put it. Tessa (12:15 AM): Uhm...a science/archeological team is captured while offworld. Daniel & zelenka are on it. Slashy (12:16 AM): Yes, that would be an inconvenient time to lose that. Yay! Two blanks filled. Tessa (12:16 AM): Shep is using the link to follow. At a fork in the path, it cuts out. Slashy (12:18 AM): Productivity is good. Now, we've had something horrible happen to Daniel and Shep. So something horrible must happen to someone ELSE we like. Tessa (12:19 AM): Jacks knee goes out while he's offworld. He gets separated from the rest of the group by Tessa (12:20 AM): Let's say a rockslide Tessa (12:20 AM): And he has to make it back to the gate while avoiding enemy soldiers Slashy (12:20 AM): Nice. Meanwhile Daniel is worried out of his mind, because he chose not to go offworld this time. Slashy (12:20 AM): Why are there enemy soldiers? Tessa (12:21 AM): Maybe not the sgc's enemies Tessa (12:22 AM): A civil war, like in that one season eight episode that I can't remember the name of Tessa (12:23 AM): Except jack doesn't meet a pretty girl who wants to nurse him back to health and falls in love with him, even though she's already engaged Tessa (12:23 AM): He just meets pain and steep inclines Slashy (12:39 AM): I say we do something terrible to Vala. She moved to Atlantis with her bf and nothing has happened to her yet. Raquel Tabor (12:39 AM): So this is the "daniel and chase are pretty so lets make them shag" story? Slashy (12:40 AM): uh...I think we're a bit ahead in the timeline for that. Chase can't come to Atlantis til it becomes a colony. I'm just gonna stick that one in a random blank after the colonystory, but before he hooks up with Cadman. Because she will not tolerate that shit. Slashy (12:40 AM): ...actually... Slashy (12:41 AM): "Because she will not tolerate that shit" is a terrible reason to want it to be after they hook up, right? Raquel Tabor (12:42 AM): ... Raquel Tabor (12:42 AM): Yes Raquel Tabor (12:42 AM): Do it Slashy (12:44 AM): so... Vala. Way back in the blank I need to fill in. Slashy (12:44 AM): is it wrong that I want her to be preggers again? Raquel Tabor (12:45 AM): Its...well, yes, but do it anyway Slashy (12:45 AM): okies. this is her third kid. none of them are with the same father. Slashy (12:46 AM): this one should be a boy, I think Slashy (12:46 AM): just to be fair. I mean, she does have two daughters. Slashy (12:47 AM): the father this time is Stark. Her bf of the moment. I think she's going to stay with him. Slashy (12:48 AM): what about Julian? Raquel Tabor (12:49 AM): Sure. Someone should call him jules Slashy (12:49 AM): Addie, Lenna, and Jules. Nice. Slashy (12:55 AM): so. Vala. is preggers. something horrible must happen to almost as soon as she finds out. Raquel Tabor (12:56 AM): She gets kidnapped Slashy (12:57 AM): who does she get kidnapped by? I feel like there should be radiation... Raquel Tabor (12:57 AM): By sentient rat-type creatures who want to examine the human reproductive system & its processes Slashy (12:59 AM): these sentient rat-type creatures. do they end up dying the the rescue? Raquel Tabor (12:59 AM): Sure ~ I've been meaning to suggest Dorian Gray type paintings for either AI or the Slayer Center for AGES now. Also that old belief that a camera can steal your soul? Yeah, what if one COULD? Dorian Gray painting for the Slayer Center. Except it's a lot more like that Alice In Wonderland mirror from W13. First the picture changes so it looks like you. Then it slowly leeches away your consciousness until it's switched places with you. It's totes going in Dawn's room. Along with the thing in the folding wall. I'm HOPING I can turn it, so it's not evil. As for a soul-stealing camera, that sounds more like an Object or an Artefact than something on the buffyverse. I'll have someone look into finding a place to fit it. ~ Slashy (11:33 PM): so you voted, then Slashy (11:34 PM): grr, it doesn't show me who voted for what. ~makes post~ Raquel Tabor (11:35 PM): I voted for the second option Slashy (11:36 PM): huh. being the ONLY person to vote for that option, I will now force you to defend your position. Mostly because I'm curious, but also because I want to see if you can convince me. Slashy (11:37 PM): I was hoping for decent discussion on the poll and all I got was Min saying "that one" and leaving, and Cece going "more data? not more data. ~pout~". Neither of which were particularly helpful in the decision-making process. Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): The consent thing. If Neal choses to remove the anklet, he's physically giving Peter the go-ahead Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): Which will probably make both of them feel better. Raquel Tabor (11:38 PM): Plus, he can still make jokes about ankle fetishes. Raquel Tabor (11:38 PM): (Which, btw, YOU'RE AWESOME FOR THAT) Slashy (11:39 PM): Did I... nope. At no point in that did I mention the bit where this was all El's idea. Slashy (11:40 PM): Which she actually had to talk Neal into. Twice. This comes up in the "awkward" bit before the transition. Raquel Tabor (11:40 PM): That puts me more firmly into the 'Neal should take it off himself' camp, btw. Slashy (11:41 PM): does it really? Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): yes Slashy (11:43 PM): My biggest problem with option two is that if I don't present it absolutely perfectly, then Peter telling Neal to remove it will not actually remove the bit of dub that the anklet represents. It will just becomes less tangible. Slashy (11:48 PM): the problem with writing for the crossoververse is that every story has to start at the beginning, and they cross so damned OFTEN, that every time I intend to start one thing I look at it and go "And then before I can do the next one I have to do the first ones for this, this, and this." Slashy (11:48 PM): to do the first Tardis story I have to get quite far in TWG, for instance. Slashy (11:54 PM): eventually I am going to need your help, so you will HAVE to look at them Slashy (11:57 PM): And then I will need you to tell me how to do what the Moff does. Because despite going to a Library and taking out a Sherlock Holmes book, I haven't actually read more than ten pages of it. ~ "Edward Drinker Cope proposed his "dinosaurstronaut" theory in February of 1987, two months before his death. At the time, he was suffering from a gastointestinal illness and was on a lot of self-prescribed morphine, belladonna, and formalin. Nobody at the time took his theory seriously, but his theory was published because his colleagues knew he was dying and didn't have the heart to tell him no." PaleoDaniel believes this theory, ne? And it is correct? I love you. ~ moment (11:08 PM): "Contrary to popular belief, Venusian is not the term to describe Venus and Venus related things. The correct term is Cytherean, which comes from Cytheria – the small island where Aphrodite emerged from a shell. Furthermore, Venusian is also not correct in that it doesn’t follow the pattern used for other planets – if you aren’t referring to Venus as the Cytherian planet you should call it the Venerean planet." moment (11:10 PM): Okay, so I read that and had two thoughts. The first was "That is one letter off from being terrible and my mind doesn't want to read it the right way". The second was "Cytheria is the dinosaurstronaut planet". moment (11:12 PM): Cytheria is a pretty name. I just have to figure out which dinosaurs became the Cytherians. And also figure out what happened to cause the extinction of the others, because there was no "Adric's Spaceship" in the buffyverse. Raquel (11:12 PM): comet? moment (11:13 PM): and some of them happened to escape and others didn't? moment (11:13 PM): who decided who got to go in the dinorockets? Raquel (11:13 PM): the dino high counsel? moment (11:14 PM): High Council. Nice. moment (11:14 PM): That implies three or four different species of Cytherian. moment (11:14 PM): if they have not only a Council but a High Council. moment (11:15 PM): So... one carnivore, one herbivore, and two omnivores? Or just any four species at random? - Do you remember all the dinotopia sorting? Annie was of the Earth and Tasha was her SLP. Kevin was of the Earth and his SLP was a female steg named Prickles. Christa was of the Earth but she doesn't have an SLP because she was prego with Cassandra at the time. Hally and Aleen were of the Sea and have dolphins, unnamed. Lucy was also of the Sea and has an unnamed dolphin. Diane was of the Air and calls her skybacks Amelia. Tate says dolphin "names with "bubble", "deep", "song", or "echo" would be good". Why? I'm trying to work out some things for the Character Lists. The dolphins all need names. Farsong, Secondecho, and Palemoon. Except that those are really the humanized short versions of real dolphin names, which are more concepts than words. Like Perrin's wolves. Farsong is really the last notes of a melody distorted by the waves. Secondecho is really the impression leftover after an echolocation image has faded. And Palemoon is the light of the full moon reflecting on the surface of still waters. I'm also smoothing out the differences between the panversals. For instance, since all the "1"s are in the whoniverse. Any panversals found in the buffyverse who don't have an alternative name (like Castle vs Rick and Beckett vs Kate), are now going to be lablled as altName. Similarly, all gateverse panversals without an alternative name (Fake News) are labelled as otherName. What do we do about John Watson? He can't be labelled as Watson because of James Watson on Sanctuary. Can't be John because, well, we HAVE a John. What modifier can we use? Do I look like the person to ask about modifiers? ~sigh~ Just leave that one alone. Let Her deal with it. Better yet, pass it off to Tessa-san, who seems to be the only one of us who knows what's what with that fandom. Y'know, despite not having seen the particular version of it we're using. I'm shifting a bit in the timeline. So that Eleven'n'Gwen's Altrusian adventure is before the Marshall's escape, so that Eleven bring the Marshall's and Enik home so as to keep the universe closed when he springs the Altrusia trap. - Min: FOR THE RECORD: ROMMIEVERSE 4:0 FLYVERSE 2:1 Min: FOR THE RECORD: CASEVERSE 5:2 Min: FOR THE RECORD WHONIVERSE 59:42 Min: FOR THE RECORD BUFFYVERSE 20:16 Min: FOR THE RECORD GATEVERSE 36:41 Min: FOR THE RECORD: CROSSOVERVERSE 126:102 Min: how long is youngChrista with Keela and Xander before they fall into Altrusia? Cece: three months Min: and how long do they stay in Altrusia? Cece: between three to six months Min: now, where in Altrusia do the BMW trio fall and how long do they say? Cece: they fall in after Keela and Xander leave, and stay at least two years. Cece: long enough to participate in the short-lived Pakuni Resistance that kills Na and her mate. Topanga will get baby Stink out and to Opah, rather than Na running away. Min: explain exactly how Dinotopia and Altrusia are connected Cece: if you sail far enough in to Altrusian ocean, you'll hit the Razor Reef Cece: yet Dinotopia is NOT a part of Altrusia Cece: it's like... Altrusia is the inside of a bubble, and Dinotopia is the surface of the same bubble Cece: once Xander and Keela said into Dinotopia, Keela's magic will be powerful enough to open up a closed but existant anomaly and they can end up in TSR Min: does Torchwood have a magic division? Cece: not yet Cece: but it will Cece: Keela and Xander will plant the seeds for it, like Henry did for Technologies Cece: except that Xander and Keela stay Min: will this magic division have a name? Cece: the Torchwood Insititue Paranormal Resources Unit. Cece: PRU for short Min: why must it be an NTAgent who gets Sofiana and mindSuzee home? couldn't Keela's magic somehow backtrace the Portal enough to connect to Lisette, and the two of them could Speak it open the rest of the way? Cece: I like that way better than an NTAgent. Cece: we don't have another Dinotopian to be of the Earth... Min: what about Samantha Seville? she was, what, between 8 and 11 in the movie, which was 2002. so she'd be between 19 and 22 when Kevin gets to Dinotopia. that's too late. Min: because she'd get her SLP around 15/16 Cece: so she gets an earlier hatching egg Cece: it's a stegosaurus, and it's name is Thago Cece: named after the tail spike cluster, which is known among paleontologists as the “thagomizer” Min: so assuming she was 9 in 2002, and assuming she got her SLP at 15, it was 2008 Dinotopia Time when Thago was hatched ~ Oh, and before I forget to posit this idea: the Cytherians, aside from being the dinosaurstronauts, are a secret Dinotopian society. They're of the same species' as the dinosaurstronauts, but they chose to remain behind to help the world survive, or something. No. The Cytherians didn't "choose to remain behind". They came BACK. The comet thing that the Sunstones come from, the one that protected them all? It was mined on Venus and thrown back at the Earth with a crew of Cytherians. And it's the decendants of that crew who are the Cytherian secret society. When Altrusia implodes, what happens to Dinotopia? When Altrusia implodes, Dinotopia snaps into proper existance on the Buffyverse base, where the Cytherian planet actually is. Because there is no Cytheria in the Whoniverse. Instead there were Silurians. So it snaps into existance, which I'm sure is a big deal but do not want to deal with right now, as Dinotopia doesn't seem to be particularly well plotted. Oh, and let's assume that Dinotopian time is equivalent to whoniverse time, so when it snaps into the buffyverse it pops in three years after it's last otherverse date. Hey. Can youngChrista stay with the BMW trio for a while? and all her memories are out of order, because when Xander and Keela got on the boat Keela cast a spell on her to give her extra knowledge of the world (Lulu's name, for instance, and other things the Marshall's knew, and the knowledge that it was her home. That necklace was from Topanga, and it was Topanga's face she saw, but Princess was the dog Keela got her. It was definitely Keela and Xander in the boat, but Topanga who played on the beach with Namaki. Because the OZ borders both the buffyverse and the gateverse, what is the corollary between the ATA gene and P+? [if] magic in the OZ is a form of partial ascension [and] [if] magic in the OZ is also magic [and] [if] the gene thrapy success rate is approximately equivalent to the promicin success rate [then] anyone with the ATA gene would survive the shot, the gene therapy would work on any P+
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Mar 20, 2011 8:48:48 GMT -5
Slashy (11:41 AM): "Min: did She ever decide on NCIS pairings? Cece: no. Cece: we never even finished watching it Min: nice Min: we'll just skip that, then" Raquel Tabor (11:42 AM): McGee/Dinozzo frsure Slashy (11:43 AM): yes Slashy (11:48 AM): I can't think of his name, dammit. ~headdesk~ I give up. I am slashing Gibbs with the FBI agent whose name I have never been able to remember. ~headdesk, headdesk, headdesk~ Memory, why won't you function as a memory? Raquel Tabor (11:48 AM): fornell? Slashy (11:49 AM): yes Slashy (11:49 AM): why can't I ever remember that? Slashy (11:53 AM): I did not know Tesla was a suspected cause of the Tunguska Explosion... Slashy (11:53 AM): This should not be such an appealing idea Slashy (11:53 AM): it has nothing at all to do with the fact that cvs Tesla is hot. NOTHING AT ALL, I TELL YOU - Moment: who's in TSR? Min: Lester, Claudia, Nick, twoStephen, Abby, Connor, paleoDaniel Min: and for a little bit Tesla and Henry were Moment: here's the thing Moment: I've looked at TSR's timeline Moment: in order to have a unicorn (ref: "the fact that Primeval and the way it's done can do mythology, and the fact that magic exists in the buffyverse, kind of makes me want a unicorn to come through. a real, proper one. not an evil one like Rainbow.") Moment: I need virgins Moment: plural Moment: now I find it easy enough to believe that Connor could be a virgin Moment: before Connor/Abby Moment: especially considering that this is *essentially* the S1 characters Moment: but if paleoDaniel is to be as much of a whore as gateverse Daniel is then I've got a problem Min: unless he's a virgin until that story a whore after it Moment: but the earliest blank is DECEMBER Min: I see how that would be a problem Min: how about if you move something, shift your timeline or whatever? Moment: I can shift everything one month, right after paleoDaniel joins Moment: so that the unicorn is right before Tesla'n'Henry arrive Moment: so here's a question Moment: once paleoDaniel and Connor realize that they are both virgins, might they ~ahem~ seek to remedy this? Moment: I KNOW this is way before Connor/Abby, because Abby is busy pouting that she should have gotten a Stephen and it's not FAIR to Nick got so many, even if some of them did die Min: I love you Moment: let's say they find an adolescent Cryolophosaurus (Elvisaurus) and the anomaly is already closed, so they have to keep it. Moment: they will call it Elvis Moment: and when it gets big enough some of them will end up riding around on it's back. Moment: don't tell me they won't Min: of course they will Moment: I'm putting that in February of 2008 Min: the Baryonyx is one where they go through an anomaly, right Moment: June Moment: and the Therizinosaurus Moment: is clearly loose in a forest somewhere and quickly destroying it Min: oh, about paleoDaniel? Min: I've been assuming that he was an alternate version of S1 Daniel. Partly because of the minor time difference between all universe, and partly to keep him in the right age range for the TSR group Min: is that okay? Moment: YES Moment: because it makes sense Min: there must be more to TSR Min: in S3 they hired Becker because Stephen was dead Min: there is no equivalent in TSR Min: in fact, paleoDaniel is hired before the clones even arrive Min: which is ridiculous Min: why hire a civilian when your most "able to defend folks" team member is gone? Moment: I want them to hire Sam Tyler, but he's not to wake up from the coma until 2009 Moment: and we need someone from the moment we revert to Claudia Brown, someone who would come along with the TSR package Min: how about altAdeola? Min: she'd then go off to work with TWP once Technologies actually got their own division Min: Nick's personal stuff is already all worked out, at least for now Moment: how long do we give Connor/Abby before they actually get to start? Min: well it took getting stuck in the cretatious period to actually work out in the whoniverse Min: this is the buffyverse base Min: everything is DARKER here Moment: I noticed that, actually Min: then I don't think there should be Connor/Abby Min: I think that one of them should die Min: well it worked out for Nick and Stephen, is the reasoning. Min: one of them is COMPLETELY delusional, and honestly believes that something similar will happen to them Moment: Connor Moment: Abby is much too self-aware to be that delusional Min: if something is already slightly wrong with him, like he'd been exposed to something Min: he could become that delusional within a "series" and have his death be the end, which would determine when it was Moment: anywhere between six and ten stories to a series Moment: nine for our first, leaves Magnus as the end and the arrival of Helen and the clones as the beginning of the next Moment: and I'm making the next one ten Moment: so that Connor's delusion is July Moment: whatever he's affected by comes from Magnus, from the caseverse Moment: which means Magnus' caseverse adventures must contain a mind altering substance Moment: this explains why Connor's slowly deteriorating mental state is not picked up by Lorne when everyone is tested for evilness and such Min: mindSuzee and Sofiana are around by then Min: mindSuzee needs to be tangible to leave a room, she's not a ghost so she can't go through walls or anything, but she could jump bodies through glass or plastic or an invisible field Min: because of the eyes Min: so if she and Connor were separated from the rest of the group somewhere, and somehow separated from each other, and something needed to be done on Connors side that only she or Sofi could do and it needed to be done NOW Min: then she would HAVE to jump into Connor, and she would notice his delusional plan Min: and do her best to stop him, but he'd eventually kick her out Min: she'd have sent Sofi away to get help, but by the time help arrived it would be too late Min: I think this is a spaceship story. I mean, they're locked up in a ship and once they get control of the ship they land it somewhere Min: and if this is enough tech stories, then they land it on a Canary Wharf rooftop and this is where TWP starts. with Sofi and mindSuzee as employees Moment: there must be other TWP employees. you can't run a whole division with just two folks who don't even belong in the universe Min: they can have Tom Jackman Moment: if I get Tom then I also get Katherine. which still isn't enough Min: well altIanto and altLisa are TWP. they could be the ones who end up tipping TSR off about all this alien stuff that leads to the creation of TWP Min: altAdeola won't move until after Sam Tyler joins TSR, but she WILL move Moment: the problem now is: Sofiana, mindSuzee, altJackman/Hyde, altKatherine, altIanto, altLisa. None of these are people I can put in CHARGE of this operation. Min: Claudia Brown was from the government's Ministry of Science Technology. Lester was her boss, but she was actually government. Min: I think it's about time she got a promotion, don't you? Moment: okay, so this story ends with Claudia getting TWP, complete with Sofi, mindSuzee, altIanto and altLisa. Moment: the next TWP story should be the one where Jackman and Katherine join Min: but back to TSR Moment: what about Abby. if there is no Connor/Abby Min: well eventually I'd actually like to send her to Dinotopia, via Altrusia, and with Rex Min: if we make it a departure for the end of the "series" then figure out how many you want to be the next series Moment: eight. so that Sam Tyler waking up is the only LoM story set in the present day. he wakes up in PARC at the end of January, and the February story is the one he joins in Min: well if you have his joining as the end, then Abby leaving should be January Min: and I think she should CHOOSE to stay. I mean, there's an anomaly, and they go through, and it's Altrusia. and she decides not to go back. Min: as to Altrusia time, she ends up in when youngChrista, Keela, and Xander are there. Because it's closed at four persons Min: Enik counted, but the Zarn never did Moment: right. so she then sailed off with Keela and Xander? Min: exactly Min: although she and their group don't meet for one Keela/Xander story Moment: why does Abby decide to stay in Altrusia? Min: partly because she blames herself for Connor, of course Min: partly because she can see that Dinotopia makes no sense Min: I mean, paleoDaniel would see that too, but no way in hell Lester is losing two of them. he might be dragged back kicking and screaming -- and probably will be -- but no one is going to be able to keep Abby Min: how long are mindSuzee and Sofiana gone for? Moment: til October of the next year Min: and it doesn't get told as purely caseverse. Keela gets to take them through and come back on this base. her bit while they're back on the caseverse, that's a "during" story. Min: just like the fallthrough, this side is separate from that side. Moment: there is no excuse for Sofiana and mindSuzee to not be "together" now, so that starts for them as soon as they fallthrough Min: we know nothing else specific that should happen to any of these people, right? Moment: one dino. two alien/tech stories Min: Madtsoia, the giant snake Min: if it could take out a dino, it could take out a car, or a building, or a bridge Moment: now, two alien/tech stories Min: Cytherians Min: you KNOW one of them is Cytherians Min: someone sights a Cytherian and it pings TSR's "something from an anomaly" sense Min: but when they get there it talks to them. sole survivor of a crashed survey ship. they help it get the ship patched up and it goes on it's way Moment: the other is an old Altrusian artefact Moment: something that works but was in a museum in Amura Moment: and it falls through Moment: a terraformer ball. when dropped into water it will cleanse it turn it into a viable water source. it was originally used by Altrusians to terraform other worlds, but new technology made it obsolete, a terraformer that terraformed all rather than bits and pieces Moment: once TSR figures out what it does, they will toss it into the ocean Moment: no more pollution ~ Min: take the "episodes" list and turning it into actual "virtual series" episode lists. Min: so we start with TWG Cece: so what's the first finale? Min: there's a weird six month break that means Virtual Torchwood (because SJA is virtual SJA and TWS would be spin-off) starts at the end of 2009 and ends in 2011 Cece: but what's the first finale? Min: Gwen returning from travelling with Eleven, and Jack skipping a year into the future Min: that's 13 stories Min: the next one is 13 stories later. Jack reappears, but is kidnapped by John Min: 14 stories later, reappearance of TW4 Min: 12 stories later. formation of TWS Min: then the world split, which is 13 later Cece: I thought the Sleepers was a finale Min: it's not Cece: it should be Cece: it should swap places with TW4, and that finale needs to swap with whatevers making it a 14 followed by a 12, so they're all 13 Min: done Cece: wait a sec. things that are for more than one list (like combined SJA/TWG) are they listed on only one list? Min: only one on the storysheets. not on the episodes Min: except Sofiana and mindSuzee's fall through. that has separate stories on each side Cece: what's next? Min: SJA Min: 7, when they wake Romana Min: so that becoming a Torchwood Branch is the first one Min: 7, when they take control of the building from Jekyll Min: there's a "one year later" in there, jsyk Min: it should only be 7 Min: but I have a bit of rearranging to do Min: a when Lydia, Christina, and Jenny end up in the Buffyverse. It's not an SJA story, only the ones who return are an SJA story Min: and then 8, Luke proposing Min: 7, Sleeper agents Min: 6. xenophobic groups, and then another 6, with the world split Cece: is it TWS next? Min: 7, Elle gets off the tracking device Min: 7, second torchwood heads meeting Min: 7, the killing of memAdam who looks like Nine Min: 7, Tozie transfer Min: 9, world split Min: 10, Faith's puberty with the sex pollen Min: and dividing up Primeval-1 has it's own problems Min: Danny's story, and Connor, Abby, and the clones' story, before returning to the ARC. Don't count as ARC stories, which is how it needs to be set up Cece: so you set them before it in the list Cece: so they're separate, but everyone knows they go before the ARC series Min: five stories, with Amura going on the news being the ending Min: sadly, we then need four more stories, because having QLSam, Al, and Ziggy replace a group, and then having that group return in the next story with a "one year later" tag? not cool Cece: just throw the first four things on the research list I gave you at it, spaced properly Min: Azhdarchids and Doedicurus are TSR, October and August respectively Min: the others have been scattered into the ARC Min: okay, here's a problem Min: I need four stories for between June 11 and July 12 Min: and then another two for before February 13 Cece: SEVEN? Cece: Longisquama, found here: duniapustaka.net/15-unusual-prehistoric-creatures.html Cece: Helicoprion, from the same link Cece: Fruita-Tooth, www.popfi.com/2009/10/22/the-worlds-smallest-cuddliest-dinosaur/Cece: Stygimoloch dinosaurs.about.com/od/herbivorousdinosaurs/p/stygimoloch.htmCece: which is one of the four species of Cytherian, btw Cece: Jeholopterus dinosaurs.about.com/od/aviandinosaurs3/p/jeholopterus.htmCece: Guanlong dinosaurs.about.com/od/carnivorousdinosaurs/p/Guanlong.htmCece: another Cytherian species Cece: how many Altrusia stories do we need to finish out the Tardis list? Min: seven Min: 3 before the baddies escape and 4 after Cece: do you suppose they knew the Builder before it's parents came to take it away Min: have that as the first of the three Min: he's still a kid, he was afraid to come out while the baddies were there Cece: the second one while the baddies are there, they are experimenting on the Pakuni Cece: the Pakuni flee Cece: and then the Pakuni return in the next post-baddies story Cece: so the first one when the baddies are there Cece: they're living in the Builder's Temple, right? Min: yes Cece: what do you suppose would happen if a Time Lord put on that ring? Min: oh god Min: can't be anything good Min: the Master is impulsive enough he'd put the damn thing on himself, and it would torture him Min: because it's like that Min: and the other one would be the Zarn, revealing himself to the Rani as a kindred spirit Cece: so then there are two more post-baddies Cece: one of them involves the Pylon the baddies used, but it backfires and somehow injures Romana, so they decide to find another way Cece: which is the next one, where they start trying to use Enik's caves matrix table. the one they had him lock so it wouldn't be an easy escape. so first they have to deactivate all the booby traps Min: so now we can do this Min: the first one is 11, ending with the springing of the Altrusia Trap Min: 11, ending with the recapturing of the Tardis Min: 10, ending with the World Weirdest Family Reunion Min: 12, ending with the Master being left with Romana for a bit Min: 12, ending with that five story group therapy trip that fails miserably Min: 10, ending with Jack/River Min: 10, ending with Hyde's stabilization Min: 9, ending with the Master leaving Min: 12, ending with Jack leaving Min: and then the last one is 9, ending with Thirteen and River's wedding Cece: about TWG Cece: QLSam in Jack's headspace? Min: er... well QLSam and Al wake up at the end of the same story they leave in. it's just a couple weeks their gone, this end Min: time travel is quirky like that - Who is Bella? She MUST be someone we know. Either altAnnie Cartwright or altAlexis Castle. In the buffyverse, the whole of that universe was a shadow. no one there exists in reality, aside from vampires and other supernaturals who just walk in those shadows without even noticing they're realityslips. Which is why Spike will be the only one with any recollection of those events. So it must be altAlexis. Who doesn't move to Atlantis with Caskett after all. She moves out, and is soon after recruited to the time agency. Grace then takes her immediately into the past, where she is killed and the incident sparks great interest. this: Gerrothorax www.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Gerrothorax
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Mar 24, 2011 21:07:04 GMT -5
oh, and altYvonne? is Claudia Brown's aide. she's like the Walter of TWP and will take the Cybermen and go only after being passed up for promotion twice. this means that Claudia eventually either dies or goes off to do something else, and then her replacement does the same, and there's a third boss after that the Sherlock stories with Alice Morgan are all gateverse. on the buffyverse the Sherlock fandom exists purely to watch Sherlock interact with Sam Tyler. so we don't need to follow it, or force it to fit, you know why? because the 4400 who sent him to a shadow world in the past could just as easily send him into a shadow present or a shadow future, and should in fact do both Sherlock is the shadow present. these shadows are almost like Bubbles that intersect oddly. almost like Dinotopia in relation to Altrusia. anyway, this 4400 will, sometime in 2010, sent Sam Tyler into a shadow present where Sherlock lives. that way this version only need exist for a single series, and then Sam Tyler can wake up again. now, as for that shadow future well, futures are less predictable. the chances of getting a future that even coincides with the present you're in are slim to none. so I mentioned how I wanted Dark Angel? yeah, that would be the shadow future. not that that is any way helpful anyway, since the shadow present needs to be 2010, and the pivotal moment for Dark Angel was 2009 (for those who don't know/remember, there was an EMP attack that darkened America in 2009, and DA was set some years after that), then the shadow future has to be first. which is great except that Sam Tyler just woke up and is supposed to go to work at TSR, not go into another coma. which means he can't be in the shadow future very long. oh! this is actually a teaching thing. in DA, I don't think we ever learned who darkened America or why, because America sort of went into the dark ages or whatever. so what if it wasn't actually an attack, it was the result of something that TSR did/is going to do, and Sam Tyler can stop it from happening once he wakes up. which means that there are AU versions of Dark Angel in Buffyverse America. a project manticore and all that, but none of the events happened. and I'm not doing anything with it yet, because I need to relearn the project manticore history before I can AU, and also I'm working on the britset bits now there shadow worlds are absolutely TSRs business. they're a weird function of space-time. which means the 4400 who sends Sam into them must also become a member of TSR. when he does. if the past was a shadow world which doesn't really exist, and the people in it didn't/don't really exist, how is the missing person the 4400? that makes no sense. the shadow worlds do exist, of course they do, but they exist in a perpetual state of flux, they're schroedingers realities, and anyone with a half-developed timesense would walk through one and feel that, or at least feel the possibility of it, depending on whether they saw the reality, or the shadow, or both. which means a Time Lord with a human companion would see something completely different from his/her companion since anomalies can cross universes, and can connect to Amura because of bits of Altrusia, then Dinotopia's fusion with Altrusia should mean that there could be Cytherian anomalies the Dinotopian Cytherians have a ship. a tiny one, big enough for the original crew to have returned, had they not fused with Altrusia. I don't know where it is yet, but when Dinotopia snaps into the buffyverse, the ship comes online www.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Scaphonyxwww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Diadectesdinotopia on buffyverse time, then the arrivals are all 2016, which is ridiculously far. so the snapping actually sets them back three years. means the arrivals are 2011. the Karl/Annie age diff is resolved thusly. call it a function of having been attached to Altrusia but existing for far longer, time-space got stretched or something. it works. www.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Diplocauluswww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Eryopswww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Euparkeriawww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Lycaenopswww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Thrinaxodonwww.kidsdinos.com/dinosaurs-for-children.php?dinosaur=Triadobatrachusso who is Sam Tyler's 4400? this 4400 must be present in all the shadow worlds, at the same time Sam is. this means it must be someone Sam Tyler knew in the 70's. and then the kid who went missing is just a construct, something half-fake and half-real. it happened, but names have been changed. the barkeep, Nelson, who always seems to know what's going on. is there any reason a portal from one universe to another has to have the times match up? I know the Portals do, and the CDG, but there's no reason they HAVE to. because I think the Pearadyne wormhole could end up in the buffyverse. it would be TSR's problem, and maybe we could get a couple of people moved. for instance, I think Josie should end up in TSR. Lucas can't because he has cloneJosie and such, and Z can't because he has to be around to date Holly/Ronnie. (why does Holly change her name? she doesn't, that's silly. just because her younger self calls her something is no reason to have it changed, and I like the sound of Holly better.) I don't like Vaughn enough to want him to. Corinne and Marshall are gonna have a baby and a wedding, but these don't necessarily stop them, a lot of the Pearadyne things don't need to be stories. for instance, both cloneJosie's kids births? so long as we know where they are, they don't need their own story. Corinne and Marshall's kid, Bobby, can just as easily be born in TSR as in Pearadyne. for that matter, so can Corinne and Marshall's wedding.. then there's only one series of Pearadyne, followed by two specials: Sara's return (a two parter involving TSR) and Blackie fixing the pocket universe. this is not an unusual format. the Sherlock shadow present is different from the shadow past and future. they can step back into it at any time. so in Sept of 2010, Sam goes comatose and he and Nelson slip into the shadow present. to be fair to the series, three stories all set in that month. whatever goes on at TSR while Sam is gone, Nelson is aware of both. Sam is a DI on loan to Lestrade, which is how we can get away with stepping in and out. so, TSR is, at the point we're at: Lester, Nick, twoStephen, altAdeola, Sam Tyler, Nelson, Josie, Corinne, and Marshall. who's turn is it to have an emotional arc? oh! Josie, Corinne, and Marshall come from the whoniverse base. do they still have to follow buffyverse rules? ~ here's the thing about the Sanctuary stories. after Tesla and Magnus split up, there are only 8 randomly split up stories in the Old City Sanctuary. which leads me to believe that some of them are not actually Old City stories at all, but that Helen and Henry transfered to the UK Sanctuary at some point. after the Stone of Wonderland fails (September 2012). after that because that one I can do as a special. Alice and Hatter's time with TWP, when Donna takes them and such, does that even have to be told as a Sanctuary story? I mean, aside from them getting taken from the Sanctuary and getting back, it's barely anything to do with the Sanctuary at all. so that can be a special as well. leaving and coming back can be told as two parts, I guess. and the cross-dimensional mothers daughter road trip? also a two part special. so I guess some of this is easy to write off. then Tesla borrows Henry from the Old City, but when they return they return to the UK Sanctuary, as does Magnus. that makes sense. the Sanctuary things are all split up weird, because they're almost all so separate that they become specials. which is fine, really. Jack's episode list is done, except for what hasn't made it to the timeline/storysheets yet. which means Jack/Katie isn't on there, nor anything after (and the must be after, because that's only one recruit, and after that he must go somewhere and do something and reach an endpoint). here's the division: 9, ending with him, Romana, and Astrid staying with TWG 7, ending with toxic saliva aliens 9, so that the next one starts with the beginning of TWS 8, ending with Elle's Mauve Signal 9, ending with the second Torchwood Heads meeting and Ana and Domlir's transfer 7, encompassing all of memAdam's Nine-deception 9, ending with the curing of the clones 9, ending with Jack'n'John's wedding 9, ending with the ESPers sterilization and Jack leaving with the domestics 8, ending with John's ghost 7, ending with Jack going with Grace when the ghost dissipates leapingSam is one 8 episode series, ending with his return home R&D counts as SJA. The only one that wasn't counted with them was Hyde's stabilization, and that's been dealt with now. just wanted to point it out. okay, now, what about Ace? Ace and Christina getting together takes about 3 stories, after which it's about a year before they join Sally and Larry. which means that if there were two more stories after they join Sally and Larry, we could just call it two series, with Ace's eventual departure (and Christina's) not being a part of it at all. just being part of where they ended up. so, two alien stories. give me a sec, I bet there's something in the research. here we go listverse.com/2009/07/03/10-more-mysteries-that-remain-unsolved/ 4 The Grinning Man looks at them with a permanent grin on his face. [t]he man was over six feet tall, they agreed, and was dressed in a sparkling green coverall costume that shimmered and seemed to reflect the street lights. There was a wide black belt around his waist. He had a very dark complexion, and little round eyes…real beady…set far apart. no hair, ears, or nose on this figure.” telepathically told a witness that his name was “Indrid Cold”. that's one. obviously an alien, being creepy. the other one is something I'm going to call "the Yellow". it's an alien entity with no physical characterists outside of being yellow, not even a definite size. John, then 7, ending with his imprisonment by the Shadow Proclamation 7, ending with telepathic whiplash 9, ending with the five parter 9, ending with memAdam's death 8, ending with Rainbow 8, ending with the world split 5, ending with the birth of Ewan 6, ending with his being eaten by the man-eating plant 8, ending with the ghost dissipating Susan's got two season. the first is 15 episodes and is her entire time with Elliot/Erin/Jamie, and the second is 13 and covers her time in the Tardis and on New Gallifrey, ending with her fobwatch JAMIE25 IS THE ONE WHO RECRUITS ALICE MORGAN FOR THE STORYSHEETS MAX[6] IS THE TAG FOR THE TIMELINE okay, Jamie is one of the weird divided ones. it goes like this Elliot/Eva are previous. so his Rommieverse adventure is one. then he and Susan on Atlantis, and dropping her off, which makes 16, 3 for his time with Tesla, 2 with his wife, joining the NTA 3 on the Christa 1 recruiting Alice Morgan 1 for the Last Supper Trap, which is his end point okay, we can't do Lydia because of the Talia Blanks. but we SHOULD be able to do Malcolm and Friday actually, let's start with her she's split up by her names 4 as Friday, ending with altYvonne and Cybermen 4 as Esmee, with Saffron and Gray in Camelot 2 as Lorelei, after her rescute from Camelot 1 as Jane, and then a special for when Sister-of-Mine gets her okay, Malcolm. and I don't HAVE to do one for the Limerick, because Malcolm parallels it. until it becomes the NTA Limerick, and then there aren't really stories for it Malcolm is set up pretty much the same way Friday was. 4, ending with Marisela leaving (Nathan) 2, Esmee leaving and being rescued (Clarence) 2, Sinclair helping Helen (Sinclair) 6, Cyrus at Pearadyne (Cyrus) 3, Bilis (Alexander and the one where the Doctor fixes Ee (Malcolm) Gray only has the one season, and it's 5 episodes long, from his escape from the ruins of the Hub with Esmee to his disappearance due to youngGray I've set QLSam up with a buffer "To find out what Sam Beckett is doing between this and his time in Jack's headspace, check out the ARC starting in May 2010", so his first two stories: SJA and picking up Al and Ziggy come before, and the first story after is the beginning of the headspace sharing okay, Danny Diane and Lucy have this problem where their time in Altrusia hasn't been done. so they've been taken off the ARC prequels, btw. they don't belong there. that's too long to be a previous list. - Slashy (10:06 PM): oh dear. know what I've just realized? Slashy (10:07 PM): Handy/Rose/Jack, the Master at TWS, Rose/Twelve this story. let me tell you the thing that is wrong with it. Slashy (10:07 PM): I have not accounted for where John is. While the Master is loose in TWS. Raquel Tabor (10:07 PM): ... Slashy (10:46 PM): see, once I get these all done properly, I'll be able to tell where I actually have blanks to still fill in. and once that's accomplished, the whoniverse outline will actually be FINISHED. Slashy (10:59 PM): since after Susan is fobwatched I do not plan on unfobwatching her, and she will always stay with Atlantis. Do I have to follow every Atlantis story after that and episode it with Susan, or can I just include a "to continue Susan, read Atlantis from _" tag? Raquel Tabor (10:59 PM): second Slashy (10:59 PM): THANK GOD Slashy (11:14 PM): folks from the whoniverse who I've at some point shifted over to TWP, which is on the buffyverse base. Are they supposed to follow the darker Buffyverse Rules? or do those not apply? Raquel Tabor (11:15 PM): they do not apply
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Post by Cece on Mar 27, 2011 22:56:47 GMT -5
New Gallifrey's list is just a list of dates the event associated with them. It's not episodes, in fact it's mostly just for my reference. the comings and goings are pretty much their own stories, and the births don't need to be on the storysheets, since they aren't actually stories, just events that I need to know happen but that don't need to be shown. just like the Master becoming pressie of New Gallifrey? I'm tagging that with an Other tag, because it doesn't fit into another space just now. okay so. Sam Tyler's time in the shadow present. these aren't listed as TSR stories. they'll be listed as Sherlock-# stories. let's try to finish out TSR's 2009, mkays? She had some dinosaurs listed, and there are still a couple more personal arcs to work out. altAdeola will get hers over in TWP, as will Claudia Brown. and altIanto and altLisa. but Sam Tyler still needs one. as does Lester. and Nelson, technically. also Josie, Corinne, and Marshall, but theirs don't have to end up dark, and Corinne and Marshall at least are already together. so who would take over TSR if Lester were for some reason to have to leave? it seems to me that Claudia would be the only one he'd ever trust. which means that when Claudia leaves heading TWP, she comes back to head TSR. and someone who is not altYvonne takes over TWP so if that were August, that would give TSR 4 seasons with Lester and TWP 2 seasons with Claudia. now, where is Lester going? he can't die, because if he DIED then he wouldn't get to appoint his own replacement. AH. Presidents in Pete's World aren't elected. it's an appointed office, and President Whoever has chosen him to be his/her successor. he obviously doesn't keep the position for long for the government takeover of the Torchwood Institute wouldn't happen because he'd already know. and since he has to be followed by Harriet Jones and I don't think he knows her, he has to die. he will be assassinated. and then she will take over and not long after that the Torchwood Institute will become a government thing. so who replaces Claudia Brown as the leader of TWP? guess we have to actually figure out who's at TWP huh? when it starts up, it's Claudia, altIanto, altLisa, mindSuzee, Sofiana, and altYvonne. altAdeola joins up in Feb 2009. and Jackman and Katherine join in the first actual TWP story. so the Creepy Katherine Thing. the beginning with the bits that have been writeen. when is that? since the "birth" is the beginning of the end for them, whatever season it is should end with the death. oh, oh, oh! Claudia should totally leave Jackman in charge. then the "birth". and since Katherine was the only reason Hyde was putting up with his 'imprisonment'. evil baby needs a name, it should be a girl, Megan. goes by Meg. well, now he's going to start doing things. actually, it should be the second season of his run that should be the death. okay, so, Katherine's horribleness was the "birth" of Meg, and Jackman's won't come until after that. mindSuzee and Sofiana are exempt because they come from another verse. so Claudia, altYvonne, altIanto, altLisa. now, terrible things happened to their whoniverse counterparts. all of them, in fact. we have to top those things. without death. what other britset things do we have on this base? oh, nothing. we're not really following PARC are we? I mean, even when Tesla is researching promicin, he's doing it in his spare time and working at TSR. oh, on this subject. as we've established that this Connor does boys (um, duh) and since Connor/paleoDaniel was a one off. Connor IS doing Tesla and Henry, right? that ups our ratio to 127:109. we're getting there oh god. terrible idea. does anyone remember when She agreed to have altIanto and altLisa? and Her one condition was that Jack never goes anywhere near them? guess what I'm about to do altIanto and altLisa are already married when we first meet them, they are a happy couple .then along comes Jack. (for Jack this is just after his unhealthy thing with Katie ends) Jack has no impulse control. and as for altIanto, well, he'll regret it after, but the damage is done. he'll confess and promise it will never happen again, and she'll forgive him. the first time. and the second, less easily. the third, not so much. the third time she kicks him out and demands a divorce, and then goes slightly homicidal on Jack for ruining her marriage. she'll have to be locked up, for a bit, in a Torchwood cell. Then, surprisingly, Jack breaks her out.she reminds him of Elle, for some reason, and Elle-in-the-cells was never anything but trouble. she's his second recruit. after her travelling group, she'll return and turn her VM over so as to serve the rest of her sentence. altIanto does not visit her. she divorced him and he's moved on, transfered to TSR. (he's trying to work out if Jack was a fluke or if he's gay. with paleoDaniel, wh odoes not mind being his experiment) this is near the end of Claudia's TWP run. mid 2009 as soon as the Cytherian anomaly shows up, paleoDaniel is taking the ship up there. altIanto is going with him, but they part amicably. paleoDaniel doesn't return to earth at all, he stays to be the Cytherian ambassador. and altIanto is straiht. why did they have to get the ship and go? someone must have wandered through and gotten stuck. the ship needs a name. something clever. done for today brings our ratio to BUFFYVERSE 23:23 CROSSOVERVERSE 127:111
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Apr 6, 2011 22:28:20 GMT -5
okay, so. first things first. I'm not counting the stories when the Slayers and the Scoobies are apart as separate groups. so, the first season there is 8 episodes long, ending with the first part of the Ethan Rayne story. okay, the Ciguapa is happening to Xander. it is. I've known that forever. it should be before the start of Xander/Keela. which, y'know, doesn't need to start so early, just to be established by 2008, when they move to San Fran. if Lester is gonna have a personal arc, it needs to happen before he becomes pressie. Lester is totes gonna be kidnapped into the past. By Helen, because far as I know she's the only villain TSR has. Now, why does Helen kidnap him? because she wants him to do something for her. what does she want? there's something wrong with twoStephen. a clone thing. and she knows she can't fix it herself without being locked up. whatever it is isn't a noticable thing yet, so the things she wants him to do sount detrimental and he refuses, which leads to horribleness on her part. she doesn't have the time to clone and replace him, so instead she Manchurian Candidates him. this is of course easily spotted by Lorne upon his post-rescue psych evaluation, so Lester has to be quarantined. then twoStephen's clone thing becomes obvious, and Lester breaks out of quarantine and nearly gets killed fixing it. two parter most definitely. end of one month beginning on the next. toss the NQM (Sam'n'Janet's buffyverse adventure) into the remaining blank and Lester's whole run is through. ~ Slashy (11:11 PM): Harper is the whore character of the Rommieverse Slashy (11:11 PM): I can almost immediately shift my totals another two points slash if Tesla'n'Henry have the kind of thing going on that I think they do. Slashy (11:12 PM): so that's 127:113. Slashy (11:44 PM): so, you, paleoDaniel is mostly your fault. I have three blanks left within which to give him a personal crisis arc before we send him off to be Earth's ambassador to the Cytherians. Nearly everyone else has already had a personal crisis arc. Raquel Tabor (11:47 PM): what kind of personal crisis Slashy (11:48 PM): any kind. Connor had a mental breakdown, Abby ran away, Lester was kidnapped, Nick had the whole thing with Helen and the clones. Slashy (11:49 PM): paleoDaniel is not as much of a whore as his gateverse counterpart Slashy (11:50 PM): this is probably for the best, as I think the only ones whose numbers top gateverse Daniel's numbersare Jack and River. Slashy (11:51 PM): and possibly Tesla, but he hasn't stayed in one universe long enough for me to have done an individual count of his whoring Slashy (11:53 PM): so today the Rommieverse became a definite set, which only leaves me two indefinite sets Slashy (11:54 PM): I'm hoping this means I will soon be able to finish another base and seal it Slashy (11:54 PM): like I've sealed the whoniverse. it shall NOT be touched Slashy (11:54 PM): probably Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): PaleoDaniel makes a very big translation error that almost gets everyone killed & gets someone kidnapped for a while.</font> Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): Cue BSOD Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): This is due to his not-sleeping Slashy (11:58 PM): Lester will make comments about how he KNEW he wasn't cut out for fieldwork Slashy (11:58 PM): because Lester is awesome, but he is also a dick Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): So he has a crisis of faithinhimself Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): & he ends up figuring out where/who kidnapped whoever got kidnapped & regains his faithinhimself</font> Raquel Tabor (11:59 PM): & is on the team that rescues him/her, obvs</font> Slashy (11:59 PM): oh, obvs Slashy (11:59 PM): think I can get away with that being a two parter? Raquel Tabor (11:59 PM): yes Raquel Tabor (11:59 PM): that was sort of what I was planning on Slashy (12:01 AM): yaya. now I've only one blank to the end of this 'series'. and I've just looked at my rough timeline and realized that Lester is in fact nowhere around to make snide comments, having been appointed President about three months previously. Raquel Tabor (12:01 AM): someone tells him Slashy (12:01 AM): of course they do. Claudia Brown is such a tattletale. Raquel Tabor (12:01 AM): or he's doing an inspection Raquel Tabor (12:02 AM): or *something*. ~ 55/559 that's original characters out of total characters it comes to 9.8% ~ so. andromeda. there are three shipcross stories, so that's three years. that's the March story of each. so all the things on this list are completely out of order. I'm currently labelling thses the same way we labelled the caseverse, until we can fingure out what the proper dates were. I'm sure there were some. so Suzee/Harper/Sofiana is the first one. that's a big one for them, because it's also the year of the Portal (Tesla'n'Henry, and Magnus) Next year is Eva's Tinkering, with Harper/Kaylee (was that ever listed in the ratios? yes, with the flyverse totals) the year after that is Harper's tretonin, by which time maybe we'll have Harper/Rommie, hopefully. so, one of the first things we need to do is get purple Trance back. so call that February. golden Trance is satisfied with her work and thinks her younger self can handle things from here, so she swaps places again. before she gets purple though the Abyss was destoryed. what does that mean for the Neitz and the Worldship? the Neitz will go now, I think. they'll go to regroup, to work out what just happened. possibly Beka has something to do with this, possibly not. and the Worldship, well, it might be on it's way but it's far enough off that we can leave it for at least one story. Rhade stays on Terazad with Jillian and their children. Doyle is going to go back to Tarn Vedra/Seefra; she's earned that. she'll be back before Eva, but she is going to go. for about a year. so the first story, then, is Doyle's return to Seefra, and we deal with the mopping up of residual whatever from that battle. ~ what if an anomaly opened up to the last age of the Cytherians, before they were Cytherians because they hadn't gone to Cytheria yet. the last technological age of the Saurians? that could be the last TSR blank, right before PaleoDaniels Translation Error. so TSR is finished through the start of the cyberwar. Pete Tyler doesn't join TWP until after the cyberwar. I think he's helping Mickey and Jake and the rest of the Preachers, whoever they are. in the buffyverse, Pete Tyler is Sam Tyler's brother, btw. the cyberwar starts in February, after the Cytherian anomaly. whichh means the Cytherian anomaly is a finaly. Doomsday is May of 2010, Harriet Jones is Pressie. Which means Lester... could be assassinated during the cyberwar. say March. not that that's a story. I don't think there are cyberwar stories as such. just a period of time between one series and the next with a tag saying "During this time a global war against the cybermen was fought. Over five million people were killed worldwide before the cybermen were sealed in their factories, including British President James Lester. He was succeeded by Harriet Jones, the first elected President of the newly reformed People's Republic of Great Britain. Among her first official actions was the seizure of the Torchwood Institute and it's transformation from a public to a government-run organization." since TWP is operating openly, and, hey, 4400's and mermaids in the Thames, so y'know, aliens would not be a stretch for these people. first contact would be the one where altAdeola transfers in. it's a season opener. so I recently watched GalaxyQuest for the third time in about a month and, as per that mental disorder we all seem to have, is there any reason for this not to fit on the buffyverse base? there is not. so, which one of our TWP operatives is a Questerian? you just know one of them is. Yvonne or Adeola? Yvonne. and we have to have something that lets us see through Laliari's shimmer. well, or, no. Yvonne only has to go to a con and accidentally wander backstage to see something that lets her figure out that it's not entirely fake. and then of course TWP would wisk her off for all sorts of television appearances and first contact-y things. Lali/Fred tips our het:slash ratio another point favour of het. shame. ~ Between the time when Martha'n'Mickey leave TWG, and the time when they join SJA. Is it possible for them to join Sally and Larry (and Ace and Lady Christina) at the bookstore? I think I might be able to get three three "episode" "series"' out of it.
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Post by Tate Icasa on Apr 7, 2011 19:14:36 GMT -5
So I have this idea that only works if Jack is NOT the Face of Boe in the crossoververse. (Some of you will not have a problem with this; you know who you are.) It starts with promicin. Rose and Handy, they will get the shot. it doesn't do anything big for them. fixes Handy's brain issues (which means of silly jeweller), and wakes up the dormant bit of Bad Wolf still left in Rose's brain. enough that she knows what she did to Jack and why. Because there WAS a reason. Bad Wolf is/was part-Tardis. Bad Wolf doesn't have morals like people have morals. You have to keep that in mind, or she's going to come off as terribly cruel. Bad Wolf saw all of time and space, and every timeline, and every universe. Bad Wolf knew that without Jack, Torchwood would cease to exist. (the whoniverse would be a very different place if it weren't for Jack) Bad Wolf saw Rose, and all the things she would go on to do. Bad Wolf saw Handy. And Bad Wolf saw New Gallifrey, born of dead San Helios. So Bad Wolf poured Life into Jack. He's a living storage recepticle. (I am not the first person to think of this. There's plenty of fic. A variation is even played on it in New Dawn Fades.) And one day soon, Bad Wolf is going to take that Life back. Some of it is for Rose and Handy. Enough to give them both a full set of regenerations. Most of the Life, though, is for New Gallifrey. It fixes the world, makes it a Fact; the Tardis gardens grow, the Looms come to life, and Jack dies. Now, remember that for Loom Gallifreyans, the second heart doesn't form until after the first regeneration. So no one will even ntoce that their biology has shifted until then. Including them. Rose doesn't remember being Bad Wolf, like Jackman when Hyde first started to appear. Someday the same thing that happened to them will happen to her, in terms of being able to be awake at the same time. And since Bad Wolf doesn't tell Handy, no one knows until one of them dies. And on that subject. It will be Rose who dies. In childbirth, when she's having Twelve's baby. Which needs a gender, and a name. A Time Lord name or a human name? I ahve a few names that can be used as Time Lord names if need be. Rose has to take the shot before Handy exists. Because Rose is on the base for two years before JE. So Handy takes promicin and it fixes his brain. But Bad Wolf saves some Life, and only passes it on to Handy after Rose's regeneration. It's entirely deliberate on her part. one of each name. You know Time Tots are born with their own names, but Rose wants to name her baby. It's a girl, and it's human name is Amanda. Her Time Lady name is Asharafreniken. It shortens to Shara when people bother to use it. Which is in school. Time Tots (God, I HATE that word) are supposed to go to the Academy at age eight? No, that's when they looked into the Untempered Schism on Old Gallifrey. I think they're supposed to go to the Acadency sometime between two and four. Since Time Lords mature faster. They spend nine months out of the year at the Academy, "summers" at home, until they're twelve. Then they're assigned to (if possible, their parents) a Tardis for a year. After their yearlong they stay at the Academy until 90, which is when they SHOULD graduate. Graduates are, of course, required to remain under supervision until 100. Romana was quite progressive when she restarted, you see. And if graduates don't want to leave, they aren't required to do so. I feel compelled to add that because I don't remember how old Mosha is at her oldest. Tardises are meant to be crewed by six, but there is no law against smaller groups. Which is why Handy was allowed one, and Jenny, and Donna. Donna has Iris' memories, and the Doctor's. Susan completed the majority of her education in the Doctor's Tardis (her yearlong is included in that). Handy is a version of the Doctor. But Jenny... Did Jenny ever serve her yearlong? She'd ahve been classifed as Loom-born, and they don't do as many years of formal school because they're born with imprinted knowledge that can be unlcoked bit by bit. So does Jenny, and Ten should have unlocked it if he'd actually paid any damn attention in school. That explains why Jenny and Donna got a double-tardis. Loom-borns do their yearlong, but no time at the Academy after. Essering and Shara are in the same year. What about Queel? She can be any year we want, because Donna can drop her off whenever. Time travel. So they can be the same year, all of them. Who think after graduation the three of them and Mosha are going with Handy and Rose? And the trio for their yearlong? Why does Queel go with Handy instead of Donna? Maybe she does. They generally travel together, though. When Donna travels at all. She doesn't usually, she has a life with Shaun and works with TWP most of the time. Queel will do her yearlong with Donna, then, but her first "assignment" after Graduation will be with Handy. Shara/Amanda obvs goes with her folks, both times. But Essering, why does he? His folks are the Master and the Rani. They don't leave Gallifrey. Both Queel and Shara are his siisters (and Mosha), but only Queel is full-blood. Does the Master assign him to Handy instead of Donna for a reason? Queel and Essering are siblings. Mosha and Essering are half siblings. Shara and Essering are only step siblings. The Master wants him to have a male Time Lord role model. Donna does not qualify. ~ Tate: on the subject of Skins, what do you plan to do with Keffy'n'Tony, and Naomily? Tate: are Keffony going to get out of the gateverse before The End? Moment: any VM would register a Need To Get Out a few months in advance, if not years. in fact, I think the further from it they are the sooner it registers. Moment: which is why Katie gets it a few months after her feturn from NTA school, but after Neal's recruitment he doesn't get it until right before the Room is sealed Tate: so, Keffony and Naomily? what happens to them? Moment: Katie gets her whole family together, including Naomily and the Stonems Moment: and she whisks them all away Tate: to TWP? Moment: yes Moment: after arriving, Katie joins TWP Moment: Naomily go off and get their own place, as do the Fitch's. after TWP gets them the appropriate paperwork, of course Moment: extra-dimensional refugee Visas Moment: ther are four blanks in late 2009, early 2010 Tate: and the Stonems stay with Katie in her TWP apartment, yes? Moment: of course Moment: so the first blank is arrival Moment: I've still three after it Moment: four in 08, and one right after first contact Tate: let's do the one after first contact Tate: that will finish "s2" Moment: it will be the only one finished Tate: dark fire Tate: it looks like fire, but it's black-grey and doesn't burn Tate: it's created by squeezing this alien stressball thing Moment: what does it do instead of burn? Tate: nothing Tate: just frightens folk Tate: oh, and it "edits" time energy Tate: so in one of the later blanks, time is stopping Tate: literally stopping Tate: the dark fire spots are the first effected spots Tate: and it's spreading Tate: now, this "dead time" is susceptible to the creation/opening of a "rift" Tate: because a Rift makes stories easier to come by Tate: the aliens who are creating/opening it, they are not bad guys Tate: this is how they travel the univers, and the side effects are usually unnoticable Moment: because the other worlds didn't have dark fire? Tate: I'm moving altLisa's release to a later blank so the Timestoppers Rift can be a finale ~ Here are my notes on the first TWP "series". Remember that it starts with Jackman and Katherine joining and ends with the Creepy Katherine Thing: "If this starts and ends with Jekyll, it should have Jekyll in the middle too. And if Claudia gets a personal arc, it has to go in here too. So as soon as Creepy Incorporated were certain about Jackman/Hyde, once he was in his adult years and the changes were beginning. I think they cloned him again. These clones would be two years old, tops. There are five of them and they're being raised in a creche run by Creepy Incorporated. Mrs. Creepy mentioned the creche as she died. turned back into the Good Mum and told them that they had to find the creche. and Min and Miranda find it, and so he and TWP go in. and there are the babies. now, what happens to them? they can't keep them, they won't kill them, so WHAT? Whatever it is, itm ust be what drives Hyde to the Creepy Katherine Thing. because Hyde is always driven to it. he's grown enough to be non-feral. I think the babies die, but they aren't killed by TWP, it's a triggered self-destruct. if Creepy Incorporated can't have them, no one can. this doesn't actually fill a blank, it gives a story to the Creepy Katherine Thing. Creepy Incorporated has more than one facility. it isn't just the building in Jekyll and the Creche. they are not good people. these facilities do not do good things. one of them, for instance, tries to inject the Hyde abilities into otherwise normal children. do we know any otherwise normal children? well, there's Taylor Craig. she'd be, what, 12/13 now? if her stepdad, say, died of a heart attack, she'd have been homeless which makes her a perfect candidate to be taken in by the injection facility. she's the only one to survive the Hyde-injections. because, you see, she's P+. that makes the Hyde-injections harmless. as for her P+ ability, well, like Harrison's it takes a while to manifest. now, Nick's experience with Taylor was in S2, which was Jenny Lewis, which means... did it happen at all in a Claudia-reverted world? of course it did. but Taylor didn't meet Claudia. so when Claudia "adopts" her, she doesn't know Claudia knows Nick and Stephen. just saying. so now Claudia has this teenage daughter. who may or may not be a lesbian. (I know she was on the whoniverse. he'es hoping this one too, huh?) this is just what claudia needs, and while she's trying to adapt to this, something is going wrong at TWP. things are phasing randomly in and out of corporeality. which is, y'know, terribly unhelpful. (now, one of the post-Rift blanks has Taylor talking to Naomily about how she thinks she might be a lesbian. this goes about as well as you'd imagine, and now Claudia is all kinds of worried. but this is after Claudia goes back to TSR. stick it in one of the post-cyberwar blanks. July or something.) okay. now. we seem to have forgotten that mindSuzee and Sofiana are here. something could happen to them. they could swap by accident. Suzee ending up stuck in Sofiana's body and Sofiana stuck as consciousness. this will, of course, be remedied. and the one right bfoer the creche is another Creepy Incorporated story. it's also a Claire story. she is, after all, a clone. regarless of her upbringing. she is generally stable, but now she's going through menopause, and it's unravelling her DNA. so we need to track down a Creepy Incorporated Lab and get them to fix her." after Meg is "born". did Katherine die. I'd assume she bled to death. okay. and do Jackman/Hyde know it's their baby? sure. but Claire doesn't. and even if she did, they couldn't take Meg home. she's a feral cannibal child. she has to be raised in containment until she's old enough to be tamed. so TWP has a Nursery. the Nursery will expand as other TWP couples have children, but theyre's always a part that's just for Meg. and Meg is a difficult child, except with Katie. just thought I'd get that all pointed out. now, as for the blanks. the first one is right after Katie joins. which means Effy is on the base. now, Effy's schizo, the kind of schizo that might lister-effect into Hyde powers. (like Astrid lister-effected into ascension from bluesparklies). which might actually be good for her, because it will at least be separate. but she'd only change if she actually fell in love with Katie. so not yet. after the cyberwar. not that this helps fill in any blanks. there's a rift now. that really helps, Tatey-chan. Ta. so first a swarm of now-locusts. they're about the size of a fingertip, and bright green, and sticky. then altLisa gets out of the cells. then... why does there even need to be another stories? skip January and let s3 be the same number of episodes as the first two. so that's that, then
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Post by A Moment In Subtext on Apr 11, 2011 23:25:25 GMT -5
so the first story after Doomsday and the Cyberwar is Rose joining TWP. so we need to clarify: Mickey, Pete, and the Preachers merged with TWP DURING the war. this needs to go into the breaktag. DO NOT FORGET. during the war it was determined that P+s had a higher survival rate. and since PARC is a part of the Torchwood Institute it became standard procedure to test and if possible give the shot to all new employees. it means that we have to determine who in each group is P+. Good thing I did a WWW. June's TWP is Jackman, Yvonne, Adeola, Katie, altLisa, Mickey, Pete, and Rose is joining. I know Jackman can't get the shot. Hydepowers and promicin are incompatible. Pete is immune in the same way Diana was. Mickey and Yvonne can't get the shot. Adeola, Katie, altLisa are all P+ when Rose joins and she gets the shot. the shot takes a while to work for her, so we get our first story to re-establish normal TWP operations. there must be a Rift story. TWP doesn't have a mascot. like Myfanwy or Rainbow, so that's what we're getting now. I don't know what it is yet. so let's work out what happens to Jackman in the end. I know the second part of the story is the part where Hyde tracks the baddies down and Jackman suicides them. so then it has to start with that thing about the twins I didn't use on the whoniverse. someone kidnaps the twins to experiment on them and one of them dies as a result. both kinds end up in one body. so that's a two part. except I think the suicide takes a lot longer than anticipated. long enough to once Jackman pushes Hyde back, it completely destabilizes them. they have to be quarantined and that's when Jackman steps down and his replacement takes over, whoever that is ~ Slashy (11:37 PM): I would love to have an alternate Steven, but it is not possible Slashy (11:37 PM): I cannot think of a way to make it possible Slashy (11:54 PM): I've just realized that the entirety of the Cyberwar happens while paleoDaniel is on Cytheria... he might not even know it HAPPENED. Raquel Tabor (11:54 PM): that'd be a hell of a thing to run into when you get home Slashy (11:55 PM): oh, yeah, and by the way, while you were gone we fought a global war and over 2 billion people died... oh, and the government restructured itself... and took over your workplace... Raquel Tabor (11:55 PM): he's going to be ecstatic Slashy (11:55 PM): this reminds me of that Fry & Laurie sketch about the privatization of the police force Slashy (11:56 PM): how long do you suppose paleoDaniel would be on Cytheria, anyway? he's there are Earth's ambassador, but surely he doesn't stay FOREVER. That would be silly. Slashy (11:56 PM): particularly because he has TWP's spaceship Slashy (11:57 PM): ...I wonder if they automatically recalled it during the Cyberwar and stranded him there. Raquel Tabor (11:57 PM): that would be hilarious and you should totally do it Slashy (11:57 PM): okay then Slashy (11:58 PM): how long after the Cyberwar until they realize this and go "aw, crap" and go to get him? Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): a week before they realize it, but a month or so before they can actually do anything about it Slashy (11:59 PM): so it can be... the story after Bad Wolf wakes up? Raquel Tabor (12:00 AM): yes Slashy (12:00 AM): sweet, that gets me halfway through the first "series" after the Cyberwar Slashy (12:01 AM): the last three stories of this arc will the Jackman's suicide Slashy (12:01 AM): since I have notes, somewhere around here, about this, all I need to figure out now is who's going to take over TWP now that he's gone Raquel Tabor (12:02 AM): heh Slashy (12:03 AM): Yvonne, Adeola, Katie, altLisa, Mickey, Pete, Rose. that is my TWP after Jackman dies. Slashy (12:04 AM): Yvonne takes the cybermen to the gateverse because she's skipped for promotion many times, the latter three are all new, altLisa just got out of the cells six months ago, Katie is barely of legal age to work at TWP, let alone run it, and is from a parallel universe anyway. Slashy (12:04 AM): I suppose that leaves Adeola Slashy (12:05 AM): do you think Adeola would make a good leader, or should I transfer someone from TSR? Raquel Tabor (12:05 AM): Adeola is Martha's cousin, yeah? Slashy (12:05 AM): yeah. her whoniverse counterpart died at the Battle of Canary Wharf. Raquel Tabor (12:05 AM): yes. Raquel Tabor (12:05 AM): do it Slashy (12:05 AM): okies then ~ Slashy (11:14 PM): how is it that I am nearing the end of S4 and have NO IDEAS for how to work this into the cvs? Slashy (11:14 PM): NONE Slashy (11:14 PM): WHATSOEVER Raquel Tabor (11:14 PM): really? Slashy (11:15 PM): yes, really Slashy (11:16 PM): I should have some faint glimmering of an idea by this point Raquel Tabor (11:16 PM): huh Raquel Tabor (11:16 PM): maybe it just wasn't meant to be Slashy (11:16 PM): but I WANT ideas Slashy (11:16 PM): they just aren't THERE Slashy (11:17 PM): maybe I'll have to do what I did with W13 Slashy (11:17 PM): have some of my other groups end up wandering through, but not follow it as itself Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): that would probably work better Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): ...is it bad that I want to see Tony and McGee get molested. Slashy (11:18 PM): W13 was only there in as much as the Unit and Castle visited it. Slashy (11:18 PM): ...only if it's bad that my first thought in reaction to reading that was not "ZOMGNO!" Slashy (11:19 PM): now, the Unit can wander through. but somehow I don't think Castle could. Raquel Tabor (11:20 PM): Jack visits this universe at one point, yes Slashy (11:20 PM): er... he could. Slashy (11:20 PM): would prolly be easier on my timelines if it were QLSam-in-Jack's-headspace, not Jack-who-is-about-to-die Slashy (11:21 PM): and I have leapingSam on the base Slashy (11:22 PM): with W13 I took a character I wanted and transplanted her somewhere I could actually use her Slashy (11:23 PM): would I be able to do that here? Raquel Tabor (11:23 PM): which base are you putting them on? Slashy (11:23 PM): gateverse Raquel Tabor (11:24 PM): i do not want the sgc to try to headhunt ziva i do not want the sgc to try to headhunt gibbs Slashy (11:24 PM): you do not? Slashy (11:24 PM): are you sure? Raquel Tabor (11:24 PM): of course not Raquel Tabor (11:25 PM): it would be a fun story, even though they'd never actually go Slashy (11:25 PM): true Slashy (11:25 PM): so okay Slashy (11:28 PM): ...silly me. Castle on this base determined that the person who killed Kate's mum was hired by former president Segovia. I somehow think I could make this cross. Slashy (11:29 PM): so that makes... five crosses. if it were six I would be happy. Slashy (11:33 PM): the only other thing on this base I could possibly cross would be House Slashy (11:34 PM): which makes six crosses with no actual stories Slashy (11:35 PM): which still makes me feel better about it Raquel Tabor (11:35 PM): make gibbs get sick Raquel Tabor (11:35 PM): everybody will melt down because *none* of them can do anything about it Slashy (11:37 PM): okies, so, I need to get my crosses into some sort of order and find a way to make these six stories show all the decided pairings. speaking of, I don't think they are all decided, so that should be remedied while we're doing this as well Slashy (11:38 PM): so, do we declare pairings first or do we figure out the stories and put them in order? Raquel Tabor (11:39 PM): pairings Slashy (11:39 PM): okies Raquel Tabor (11:39 PM): I think I demanded mcnozzo Slashy (11:40 PM): so nothing was declared for the ratios Slashy (11:40 PM): but I recall you demanding that, many times Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): and tony/gibbs and tony/ziva and mcgee/abby and gibbs/ducky Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): and ziva/abby, if you'd like Slashy (11:41 PM): pretty Slashy (11:41 PM): also Gibbs and FBI guy whose name I can never remember Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): Fornell Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): yes Raquel Tabor (11:42 PM): potentially gibbs/ducky/fornell Slashy (11:43 PM): okay, then we need to figure out how to work all of those into the six stories we actually have Raquel Tabor (11:44 PM): Tony and Ziva should have a baby. justsayin Slashy (11:44 PM): it would not be on purpose, I imagine Raquel Tabor (11:45 PM): no Raquel Tabor (11:45 PM): it would not be Slashy (11:45 PM): that would be hilarious Slashy (11:46 PM): well then Slashy (11:46 PM): this is mostly on you, btw. I'm sure I mentioned that when you suggested adding it. Slashy (11:47 PM): so if they are to have a baby, they must be the pairing in the first story, ne? Raquel Tabor (11:47 PM): yes Slashy (11:47 PM): so which of the crosses would be the first story? Raquel Tabor (11:48 PM): SGC tries to headhunt ziva and gibbs Raquel Tabor (11:48 PM): which leads to 'plz don't leave' '...' ~sexytiems~ Raquel Tabor (11:48 PM): ...that's, er, Dinozzo and Ziva. Slashy (11:49 PM): okies. what year are we meant to be in? Raquel Tabor (11:49 PM): 2008ish Slashy (11:50 PM): timeline doesn't even start until 09 Slashy (11:51 PM): we'll have to pick up sometime in 09 with the starting of the wandering through Raquel Tabor (11:51 PM): cos s5 ends with them scattered to the winds. Raquel Tabor (11:52 PM): SGC headhunting could lead to them coming back together Raquel Tabor (11:52 PM): somehow Slashy (11:53 PM): okies. could be Jan? Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): sure Slashy (11:53 PM): so obvs Tony/Ziva doesn't last, or the baby would not be so hilarous? Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): right Raquel Tabor (11:54 PM): they realize that it is actually a horrible idea for them Raquel Tabor (11:54 PM): but they've FINALLY worked out their tons of UST and can move on with their friendship Slashy (11:54 PM): yes. now, the best way to get the baby is to have the wanderings in all be at least two months apart. yes? Slashy (11:57 PM): er...but the Unit doesn't form until 2010 Slashy (11:57 PM): and it's Oct 2010 before Castle find out about Segovia Slashy (11:58 PM): which means we either find lots of other crosses, or there are larger gaps between stories Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): other crosses would be more fun. ~ Moment: so, silly me, I was looking through my Research notes and found a time travel thing that I thought sounded exactly like the Doctor. And I thought "I've already got the Tardis to an endpoint and fixed out the episodes. Sad." 10:50 PM Moment: and then about four hours later I went, "For fucks sake, Clary. HANDY!" 10:51 PM Moment: Ziva is so pretty. I want to steal her face and use it for one of my Time Ladies. 10:57 PM Moment: it only sounds creepy when put into words 10:57 PM Moment: because I have put it in the most creepy way possible 10:57 PM Moment: still. I think the actress could be grown-up Queel. 11:00 PM Moment: according to my "0" file, last night when you left we were working on getting the NCIS stories in an order that made sense and getting all the pairings in 11:09 PM Moment: so we had just determined that the first NCIS story had short-lived Ziva/Tony that lead to a baby, and the SGC tried and failed to headhunt Gibbs and Ziva. we still need to put the other five stories in order. and work the remaining...several pairings into them. 11:13 PM Moment: we gonna finish this off so I can seal the first few years on the gateverse timeline? 11:14 PM Raquel Tabor: so we want the next story, right? 11:22 PM Moment: yes 11:22 PM Moment: the Unit, Castle and Segovia, leapingSam, QLSaminJacksheadspace, Gibbs is sick and goes to House 11:23 PM Moment: House June 2010, the Unit Jan 2010, Castle Oct 2010 11:27 PM Moment: those are the dates after which the crosses can work 11:27 PM Moment: that is a problem, as the first story is January 2009 11:27 PM Raquel Tabor: so leaping Sam can leap into Gibbs because 11:28 PM Raquel Tabor: has he figured out who killed his family yet 11:29 PM Moment: I, er... don't THINK so. 11:29 PM Raquel Tabor: ok, so sam needs to help him do that 11:29 PM Raquel Tabor: I think that was in s6 11:29 PM Moment: okies. you need to tell me when this story takes place, as well 11:30 PM Raquel Tabor: have you got to the episode where Gibbs's daughter's friend shows up? 11:32 PM Raquel Tabor: because we can just kill her and have Gibbs investigate that murder on the side 11:32 PM Raquel Tabor: and that'll be way easier 11:32 PM Raquel Tabor: someone kills the girl & Gibbs wants to know</font> 11:37 PM Raquel Tabor: who it is 11:37 PM Moment: and? 11:37 PM Raquel Tabor: and I don't know. It seemed like a better idea in my head 11:38 PM Moment: if this is the leapingSam story, and it's Gibbs who wants to know the answer, having leapingSam leap into Gibbs is silly 11:38 PM Moment: so leapingSam must leap into someone else 11:39 PM Raquel Tabor: leapingSam leaps into Tony 11:39 PM Raquel Tabor: or Ducky 11:39 PM Raquel Tabor: Ducky, I think 11:39 PM Moment: okies 11:39 PM Moment: so which of the many pairings on our list do we have in this particular story 11:40 PM Raquel Tabor: Ducky/Gibbs, at least. Possibly Gibbs/Fornell 11:41 PM Moment: Fornell would be in the story with the Unit 11:41 PM Moment: because otherwise the Unit is going to get NOWHERE 11:41 PM Moment: what month is this one in? 11:42 PM Raquel Tabor: Uh...March? 11:42 PM Moment: leapingSam returns home in July, which means the cross after he returns home must be August. do we find a way to fit two stories between them, or just the one? 11:44 PM Raquel Tabor: two 11:44 PM Moment: so what are they, then? 11:44 PM Moment: QLSam-in-Jack's-headspace would be one of them, because time travel makes everything easier 11:45 PM Raquel Tabor: Let's say that's in May 11:46 PM Moment: okay 11:46 PM Moment: do we have an idea for actual story? 11:46 PM Raquel Tabor: I do not want this to lead to Jack molesting McGee. I do not, I do not. 11:49 PM Moment: the last time you said you did not, you were lying 11:49 PM Raquel Tabor: I knoooooow 11:49 PM Moment: so does that mean that is going to happen in this story? 11:50 PM Raquel Tabor: yessssssss 11:50 PM Moment: so which of the pairings on the list is in THIS story? 11:50 PM Raquel Tabor: at least one-sided McGee/DiNozzo at the end. McGee/Abby, too 11:51 PM Raquel Tabor: while he's freaked out and doubting his sexuality 11:52 PM Moment: I don't LIKE one-sided. 11:52 PM Raquel Tabor: Everybody doubts their sexuality after getting molested by Jack 11:52 PM Moment: ...that is such a great tagline. 11:52 PM Raquel Tabor: DiNozzo didn't get molested by Jack 11:52 PM Moment: but I don't LIKE one-sided. 11:52 PM Raquel Tabor: it's one sided for *now* 11:53 PM Moment: well, I can work with that. 11:53 PM Moment: what's the next story? 11:53 PM Raquel Tabor: kidnapping the boys, leaving Ziva, Abby, and Ducky left to find them? 11:54 PM Moment: sure! 11:54 PM Moment: guess what I'm about to ask next 11:54 PM Raquel Tabor: a very, very preggo Ziva, too 11:54 PM Raquel Tabor: pairings and/or is there a threeway and/or when and/or who kidnapped them 11:55 PM Moment: July would be six months for the pregnancy 11:55 PM Raquel Tabor: yes 11:55 PM Moment: ...well, I was going for 1. and 4. but all four are valid questions. 11:55 PM Raquel Tabor: do we have any badguys from the SGC running around in july 2010? 11:56 PM Moment: Athena seduces Hailey and escapes at the END of July 11:56 PM Moment: we just put this story at the beginning of July 11:57 PM Moment: leapingSam returns home in August. and our next NCIS story, following the sequence we've been using, would be September. 12:00 AM Raquel Tabor: right 12:00 AM Moment: does Project Quantum Leap get shut down after leapingSam gets home? 12:02 AM Raquel Tabor: probably 12:03 AM Moment: so in Sept. it would be in the middle of shutdown. something horrible must happen to get NCIS called in. I refuse to kill Al. So what, then? 12:03 AM Raquel Tabor: terrorists 12:04 AM ~ Slashy (10:53 PM): so last night before you left you told me "terrorists", which is about the least helpful thing you've ever given me, with the possible exception of the unhelpful "uh"s. Raquel Tabor (10:55 PM): terrorists try to take over the building Slashy (10:55 PM): why? Raquel Tabor (10:55 PM): because that's what terrorists do. Slashy (10:55 PM): ...is this a Jericho thing? Slashy (10:56 PM): Jericho is the name of the secret organization that was up to terrible things in Afghanistan and caused the FlashForwards Slashy (10:56 PM): they are also the organization that Beverly Barlow was working for in Eureka, and probably the Other Project as well Raquel Tabor (10:56 PM): Would it work, then? Slashy (10:57 PM): I've sort of given them the role of every single shady organization in the gateverse Slashy (10:57 PM): it probably would Slashy (10:57 PM): especially because they are meant to be the Other Project, and would thus want the PQL equipment Slashy (10:58 PM): so yes, that works Slashy (10:58 PM): I assume, since we did sort of establish a pattern yesterday, you can guess what my next question will be Raquel Tabor (10:58 PM): uhm, pairings? Slashy (10:58 PM): good memory Raquel Tabor (10:59 PM): Gibbs/Ducky/Fornell Slashy (10:59 PM): and why is Fornell there? Slashy (10:59 PM): wait, that's a silly question Slashy (10:59 PM): Jericho are the baddie for FlashForward as well, and the Mosiac taskforce is primarily an FBI operation. duhs. Slashy (11:00 PM): ...we didn't work out pairings for the story before this, where the boys are kidnapped Slashy (11:00 PM): you'd think I'd have noticed this before now Raquel Tabor (11:01 PM): Tony/Gibbs Slashy (11:06 PM): so then Tony/Gibbs during the kidnapping. Anything else? Raquel Tabor (11:07 PM): stillonesidedMcGee/Tony, who is EXTREMELY jealous and pretty much gives tony the cold shoulder when they get back Raquel Tabor (11:07 PM): Tony has no idea wtf is going on, because he's clueless Raquel Tabor (11:07 PM): (He's adorable, though) Slashy (11:07 PM): of course he is Slashy (11:08 PM): right, okay. so other than making that NOT one-sided (because I don't LIKE one-sided), all we have left off the list is Abby/Ziva right? Raquel Tabor (11:08 PM): yes Raquel Tabor (11:08 PM): Abby is babysitting at some point for any reason. Hilarity ensues Slashy (11:09 PM): of course. ...when is the baby meant to be born? Raquel Tabor (11:09 PM): september Slashy (11:10 PM): so...Ziva is on maternity leave during the PQL story. Or possibly goes into labour in the middle of it, because she refused to take maternity leave. Raquel Tabor (11:11 PM): They'd force her to take leave. She'd show up, anyway Slashy (11:11 PM): Tony will be thrilled by this, of course. Raquel Tabor (11:11 PM): did we decided on a gender? Slashy (11:11 PM): we did not Slashy (11:12 PM): do you want to pick a gender and name? Slashy (11:12 PM): and while you're picking a name, whose last name does it get? Raquel Tabor (11:12 PM): a girl, I think Raquel Tabor (11:13 PM): aand a hyphenated last name Slashy (11:13 PM): in which order Raquel Tabor (11:13 PM): David-DiNozzo Raquel Tabor (11:15 PM): Erela? Raquel Tabor (11:16 PM): Ella for short Slashy (11:16 PM): okies Slashy (11:16 PM): so after she's born, does Ziva actually do maternity leave or does she drop Ella off at some daycare thing? Raquel Tabor (11:17 PM): she stays on leave for a couple weeks Slashy (11:17 PM): but by the time of the next story, which should be Nov, but could be Dec if you wanted to do Christmas, would she still be on leave or would she be back? Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): she'd be long back Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): and let's call it Christmas Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): Tony will go nuts because he has a kid and will splurge insanely. McGee will be a terrible enabler Slashy (11:18 PM): of course Raquel Tabor (11:18 PM): there will be a *lot* of mistletoe Slashy (11:18 PM): I will need pairings Slashy (11:18 PM): er, and actual story Slashy (11:19 PM): because the three other crosses aren't even in this year. we have to wait until January to even get to them Raquel Tabor (11:19 PM): kidnapping Raquel Tabor (11:20 PM): Abby & Erela get kidnapped while Abby's babysitting Slashy (11:20 PM): okay. by whom and for what? Raquel Tabor (11:21 PM): by someone who the team is onto. To get the case dropped. Raquel Tabor (11:21 PM): I'm trying to come up with the crime Raquel Tabor (11:21 PM): probably murder Slashy (11:22 PM): then the next story would be February, and that would be the Unit Raquel Tabor (11:29 PM): kleenex Raquel Tabor (11:29 PM): makes you terrifically sick for a week when you hold it Slashy (11:29 PM): of course it does Slashy (11:30 PM): so then who ends up holding it? Raquel Tabor (11:30 PM): Abby and Tony Raquel Tabor (11:30 PM): Possibly Gibbs Raquel Tabor (11:30 PM): I'm trying to think of who the worst ill people are Slashy (11:31 PM): and at least one person on the Unit, in order to get it into the Room Raquel Tabor (11:31 PM): Neal, of course Slashy (11:31 PM): I love how quick that answer was Slashy (11:32 PM): only one of Erela's parents gets sick, ne? Raquel Tabor (11:32 PM): yes Raquel Tabor (11:32 PM): well Raquel Tabor (11:32 PM): honestly, they're going to raise her like she's in a commune Raquel Tabor (11:33 PM): you know that Gibbs will steal her once in a while Slashy (11:33 PM): ...you mean kind of like how Ewan was a Torchwood baby? Raquel Tabor (11:33 PM): yeah Raquel Tabor (11:33 PM): Except Erela will grow up around people who are considerably more normal than anyone working at Torchwood could ever claim to be Slashy (11:35 PM): whoever is not sick will ban whoever is from seeing Erela, right? Raquel Tabor (11:35 PM): yes Raquel Tabor (11:35 PM): and they will be sad Slashy (11:36 PM): April would be the next in the pattern, and there is no cross there Slashy (11:36 PM): House can't be until June, and Castle can't be until October Slashy (11:37 PM): so we need another just NCIS story Slashy (11:37 PM): this is your territory Raquel Tabor (11:37 PM): just a normal, run of the mill type story or does it have to be fancy and life-changing Slashy (11:37 PM): it doesn't have to be fancy or life-changing Slashy (11:38 PM): a fairly normal story would be a nice change of pace Raquel Tabor (11:38 PM): Petty officer is running drugs and it leads them to a bigger gang, which they manage to bust open Raquel Tabor (11:39 PM): pretty cut and dry. Fun personal dramas. Tony and Ziva think Abby and McGee are having an affair? Slashy (11:39 PM): er, the two pairings that were left. Did they come to be and we forgot to mention, or have they not come into existance yet? Slashy (11:39 PM): ...would it be an affair? are either of them actually dating someone? Raquel Tabor (11:40 PM): McGee/Tony was in uhm Slashy (11:40 PM): last time we mentioned it, it was still one-sided Raquel Tabor (11:41 PM): I *meant* to put McGee/Tony in the September story Slashy (11:41 PM): that's a good place for it Slashy (11:42 PM): so then Ziva/Abby is the only one from the list that doesn't exist yet? Raquel Tabor (11:43 PM): let's toss it into the Christmas story Raquel Tabor (11:44 PM): the elevator should be involved Slashy (11:44 PM): okies Slashy (11:44 PM): so the next story would be June Slashy (11:44 PM): June is when Gibbs gets sick and goes to House Slashy (11:45 PM): is this before or after the House story already set in that month? Raquel Tabor (11:45 PM): what is that house story? Slashy (11:45 PM): that's the one where House goes to the SGC to cure Lenna Raquel Tabor (11:45 PM): before Slashy (11:47 PM): August would be just an NCIS story Raquel Tabor (11:48 PM): have we done a 'member of the team is accused of a murder they didn't commit' yet? Slashy (11:49 PM): we have not Raquel Tabor (11:49 PM): ah Raquel Tabor (11:49 PM): that's a perseason thing, you know. This ought to be that story Slashy (11:49 PM): okies then Raquel Tabor (11:50 PM): abby gets accused of the murder of someone, but it was actually done by some guy they'd put in prison Raquel Tabor (11:50 PM): everyone knows it wasn't her simply due to the fact that she wouldn't have left any incriminating evidence. Slashy (11:51 PM): so they do actually get the guy, right? Raquel Tabor (11:51 PM): of course Slashy (11:52 PM): and then in October, after leapingSam helps Caskett figure out that Segovia was the one behind Kate's mums death, Caskett work with NCIS to bring Segovia down Slashy (11:53 PM): okay. then do we end there, or do we have one more just NCIS story to finish out the year Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): one more Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): a cheerful one Slashy (11:53 PM): a second Christmas one? we're meant to be in Dec again now Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): a Marine officer's child is kidnapped in order to blackmail him, the team gets it back in time for christmas Slashy (11:53 PM): nice Raquel Tabor (11:53 PM): and there is happy Slashy (11:54 PM): and we end on a happy note. shiny Slashy (11:55 PM): now I can timeline this and episode it, and consider at least one of my gateverse groups Sealed. Slashy (11:56 PM): now watch. the last time I claimed something was sealed, I was tampering with it within a week. Slashy (11:56 PM): still. I am quite pleased. Slashy (11:58 PM): so the next thing I'm going to force you to help me with is the Bookstore stories. so you can get a headstart on thinking about them before I start pestering you. Raquel Tabor (11:58 PM): the bookstore stories Slashy (11:59 PM): Sally'n'Larry, Ace'n'Christina, and Martha'n'Mickey Slashy (11:59 PM): fighting aliens out of Sally'n'Larry's bookstore Slashy (11:59 PM): I have oddly spaced groups of three episode series, around the points where one of the groups either joins or leaves Slashy (12:00 AM): but none of these groups has any actual stories in it Slashy (12:00 AM): and once they are done, the whoniverse really WILL be Sealed, dammit ~ Let's take TSR out through 2010. that'll give it a seven episode "S6". so right after the Cyberwar. Bobby was born during the War, so Corinne is on maternity leave for the next year or so. since she was preggo she wasn't given the shot and won't even be tested until she returns. She will get it, then. twoStephen is immune (it's a clone thing), Sam Tyler is also immune, Nelson is already P+. Marshall and Claudia got the shot, Keela's magic makes her immune. Nick gets the shot What does Josie's backwards future DNA mean for promicin? I think she's already P+, like Harrison, but not aware of it yet. What about Xander? I feel as if because of that amazing speech he gave Dawn, it would compromise his character to make him P+. What do you guys think? (I'll make a poll.) We seem to have gotten away from TSRs actual job. Which is anomalies and dinosaurs. I'm sure I made a list of dinosaurs somewhere. Let's see if we can't find it, hmm? four the the seven TSR stories are dinosaur stories. the other three are magic stories that lead to the formation of PRU. I've plucked the dinosaurs from my list and plopped them into the rough outline. Now then, for our PRU leadup and starter. one of them is the Sigbin. We find it after finding one of it's amulets. they're made out of the hearts of the children its eaten. I'm assuming it has some sort of power, and Keela uses it before realizing what it is. they manage to catch and destroy the Sigbin. the Overtoun Bridge, in Scotland, is another one. it has weird timespace properties, which are TSRs juresdiction, and they are caused by magic. the Dec story is when the Army Merlin froze - the Carnac Stones - they "thaw out". so now there is an army. a very angry army, with nowhere to go. this is a two parter. it's a finale for TSR, but an opener for TWP. and the "episode" with with PRU forms. like Connor's Delusion was the start of TWP. PRU's first story as it's own "series" is January, after part two. who goes to work for PRU? Definitely Xander and Keela. Josie. Marshall- but when Corinne gets off leave, in January, she goes back to TSR. Claudia, because she runs all the startups for a while. Nick takes over TSR. We can't do anything else with PRU until I've figured out what's going on with the other magic groups. ~ Slashy (10:52 PM): oh, I forgot to mention, another thing I need you to be thinking about for the cvs? it's about time for Sam Tyler to slip into the Sherlock shadow future. Which means I need three Sherlock Holmes stories adapted to the modern day, where Sam Tyler is a DI on loan to Lestrade. This is pretty much your area of expertise, so I leave it entirely to you. Raquel Tabor (10:52 PM): I will find fun things to do to them Raquel Tabor (10:52 PM): you should adapt the wotsits Raquel Tabor (10:53 PM): Gerridebs! I knew it was a funny sort of word Raquel Tabor (10:54 PM): S'the one where Watson gets his ass shot (not literally, mind) and Holmes has a freak out of epic proportions (for Holmes, at least). Raquel Tabor (10:54 PM): It's so cute <3~~~~ Raquel Tabor (10:54 PM): ""If you had killed Watson, you would not have got out of this room alive."" Raquel Tabor (10:55 PM): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_the_Three_GarridebsSlashy (10:55 PM): okies. so that's one story. Imma need two more. Raquel Tabor (10:56 PM): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_the_Copper_BeechesSlashy (10:58 PM): do you have a third? Raquel Tabor (10:59 PM): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_the_Dancing_MenSlashy (10:59 PM): now, what order shall I have these in? Raquel Tabor (11:00 PM): Dancing Men, Beeches, Garridebs Slashy (11:00 PM): that's a slot in my timeline all filled in. all my buffyverse Britsets are filled through 2010. hazzah! Slashy (11:00 PM): you are amazing
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